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- coredump0x01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4don't forget hydrogen http://hydrogen-music.org/
- Apreche, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Why is it that all these audio applications for Linux have the worst interfaces you could possibly imagine. Most of them are worse than Windows 3.1. The interface is the most important part in an audio editor of any sort. Get it right for once!
- Snarfy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3here are two more:
http://beast.gtk.org/
http://www.buzztard.org/index.php/Main_Page - hordak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2DIGG++ because I'm an electronic musician and props for the additional links you guys provided!
- geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Also, you should know the word "Techno" is inaccurate. Techno is the name for a genre of Electronic music that most people don't like; it's very irregular music which a lot of people seem to think sounds like noise.
That being said, Techno is just one genre of Electronic music (or if you're Madonna, Electronica), which is composed of all kinds of music including Drum and Bass, Trance, Jungle, Happy Hardcore, and the list goes on and on. I hate to be a pedant about it, but it's just a pet peeve of mine when someone calls it all "techno".
It's like calling /all/ computers "PCs". - VIrus9, on 11/06/2007, -1/+3Music creation software is the only reason I still have a windows partition on my harddrive. I've played with some of the stuff that's available for Linux, but nothing I've been able to install and get working has produced satisfactory results. I'm sad to say LMMS falls into this category.
By putting windows back on my computer, I was able to have a functioning virtual studio up a running in about 2 hours using all free (as in beer) software. The thing that took me the longest was deciding what VST synths I wanted to download. I couldn't manage this in three weeks with Linux.
Everything else works fine. Blender, Cinepaint and Inkscape handle my graphics needs beautifully. Kino and Cinelerra take care of my video needs. Unfotunately there is nothing available on Linux that even comes close to being able to compete when it comes to audio. - tarun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2IS there any rival to Garageband on both Windows or Linux? One of the main reasons I am thinking about buying a Mac is for Garageband.
I want to make non-electronic music on my computer. Is this even possible with anything except Garageband? - spafbnerf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://linux-sound.org
^- There are a myriad of other applications available to make music on Linux...
LMMS is nice; but young and unstable.... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3no digg plain and simple
this is a joke and i like linux! - xamox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1For those people who actually make music and play an instrument check out Audacity for recording in linux (and windows).
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
No offense to anyone who makes electronic music, I have as well, I've had a roland XP 10, interfaced with a ER-1, 202, and PC with Fruity Loops with midi. I've used trackers, rebirth, sonar, and a lot of others. I've made everything from ambient, trance, house, gabber, and speedcore, and can honestly say that making a song with a 4/4 beat doesn't take much work. Try playing drums or guitar and recording that at a certain tempo, it's a lot harder then click a button every certain amount of measures and clicking play. - jsilverman, on 11/19/2008, -0/+1Oh you can't compile a C/C++ application? Man up, shorty.
Plus, LMMS does actually provide binaries for Ubuntu and Fedora. I know because I am using them. Great software.
Oh, and closed-source anything typically sucks (including all Apple offerings which are not safe just because they are not Microsoft.) - GloriousNight, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I wish I had a linux box or an effective dualboot so I could check this out.
- n8gray, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Wow. The installation directions in this article reminded me why I switched from Linux to OS X. Ick.
- fascinationx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If you people really want to know about electronic music..... go to Ishkur's guide.....that should be helpful to you http://www.di.fm/edmguide/#......and you people are having so much problems with these programs.....learn how to use them.....they all have their advantages....it just depends on the applications you are using them for
- dbr_onix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0'"sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list to edit the file, (to "comment out" the line referring to the Ubuntu CD - "commenting out" means inserting a # at the beginning of the line you want ignored).
sudo apt-get update to reload the list
sudo apt-get install build-essential
Now I can rerun ./configure'
Is a single file that launches an installer too much to ask?
As for linux media stuff, it's still way behind Windows and Mac.. Premiere, or Avid Express on PC, or Final Cut on the Mac is still far far far far better than things like Jashaka, though given a while I think they'll get to a decent level, though by that time Final Cut or whatever takes over FCP (Though thats not going to happen for a while), will be far superiour... Sad, but thats why the big companys are so popular, they have large teams who get paided to create these programs
Anyway, not got around to installing Fedora on my laptop, and the linuxy PC doesn't have a monitor, so I can't try this.. Anyone have screenies of it..?
- Ben - behemothaur, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Absolutely great article ++digg and thanks for the post ++digg tadelste.
Other morons up here bitching about CLIs and poor X GUIs and stuff are just that - morons. Make it better - it's open source and damn good dickwads. Nothing more satisfying than hassle-free compiling a multimedia app on a unix distro you have only recently started using and cutting some tracks within a half-hour.
If you don't like it - don't Digg it - this guy Sal has done the work and documented it for others to enjoy and the poster is digging his work - hoping that other people would too.
Front page you lamers - didn't get here from being bitched about - let's see you contribute something to the world. - erudite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Cool link thanks +digg.
Excellent the other apps people have posted in these comments like beast, buzztard (though too advanced for me) and audacity... Am an instrument player and always wanted to spend more time with sequencing/authoring but gave up at rebirth. Thanks. - shakin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2"Linix is fine if you like sitting around doing stuff in cli, but some of us have to work for a living."
Funny, I switched to Linux specifically so I could get more work done. Let me know when Windows or Macs have equivalents for kioslaves (well, Macs have a watered-down version), Quanta and Krusader. - jnorris441, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0whilst hehehe
- tadelste, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Linux must be doing well and doing what works. Whenever things are working, then one of the first thaings to come up is the unworkableness in the environment. Secondly, you get rambling critics. Sal did a great job on the article and lots of people liked it. So bugger off.
- SmeRndmGy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0people still use the word "multimedia"? i havent heard that since the windows 95 days.
- hellsyeah, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Is there a windows version? how could I run this on windows? Is it possible?
- behemothaur, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0hellsyeah don't think so - tyou could try it under vmware or dual boot your machine to Ubuntu 5.10 - that's a good thing to do...
Oh smerdn whatever: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia
Dumb animated gif guy - sshmerdnby or whatever - clever by the way - yeah - I use "multimedia'" it's a catchall term. I communicate with people who have extensive vocabularies outside of windows. Apologies for not discussing alsa drivers & graphics chipsets etc and using a generic term - you need to get out and speak to people more pal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia - in case you were wondering, meaning hasn't changed but the technology sure has. But you know that right? - dbr_onix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0*Ahem* Just as I clicked back to the story I noticed the "Default LMMS interface" picture.. *Awaits the edit comments button..*
- Ben - VIrus9, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I definately agree with you, tadelste, that windows sucks. That's why I find it so frustrating that there's still a reason to run windows on my machine. There's something about pushing the latency up to 175 ms just to prevent xruns that really makes me miss my ASIO drivers.
I've had slightly better results with multimedia kernels, but nothing that really makes me happy.
Of course that particular issue has nothing to do with LMMS. If I wanted to step record sample-based music without integrating it back into something with more of a live feel, it would be great. My biggest problem with LMMS is that the synthesis isn't much better than the apps I was running on my C64 twenty years ago.
I have no doubt that as time goes by, we will see improvements in Linux audio apps. All of my complaints could easily be applied to trying to run multimedia apps in windows throughout most of the 90s (and some Mac geeks would argue that those problems continue to this very day). Unfortunately I'm a user, not a programmer, and I'm not going to learn a new skillset just to fix a set of tools when I have another set that works. But I do look forward to the day when I can scrap my windows partion. - sharkscott, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I got all the techno I want on Magnatune.com
Sreaming the beats baby! - jmmcd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1From the article:
"A lot of the songs have quite a rough sound as compared to commercially produced stuff. But that's the difference between free software and software that costs thousands."
No, that's the difference between polished and unpolished demos. It's nothing to do with the ability of the software. You can get so-called "commercial quality" with free software, no problem. - rcmiv, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0While I enjoy using linux, I have my concerns about the gui. It's a bit sluggish, isn't it? The server/client nature of X, while obviously robust, also seems to require a whole lot of processor and memory to be responsive (compared to windows, for instance).
Video drivers and X servers are a constant problem in linux.
I have run Hydrogen in ubuntu on a PIII500, and while the program is usable, the interface becomes unpleasantly bogged down during playback. It basically freezes.
I have to install Hydrogen on my newer P4 3.2Mhz and see if the performance is any better (I assume it will be).
My point is that, though the linux (ubuntu) experience is a positive one for me, there are still families of apps that require a leaner, faster gui on mid-level machines than is currently available.
Many of the people to whom I have recommended linux as an alternative to windows, even those who are relatively savvy users, are immediately and permanently turned off by the lack of responsiveness in the gui. KDE and Gnome are both dirt slow on mid-level machines (and LiveCD's do more harm than good in this regard, as selling tools), Fluxbox is better, but the interface confuses folks, and the other wms/desktops, while interesting, are mostly buggy or confusing non-starters.
This is a pretty fundamental issue, in my opinon, with regard to a wider user base adopting open alternatives to microsoft. Forget gaming, forget photoshop or office. If the desktop interface isn't snappy, folks aren't going to use it.
Windows 98 on a PII 75 is like lightning compared to ubuntu with gnome even on a P4 3.2Mhz with an ATI X800. It's just a fact.
All that being said, I am amazed by the range of high quality free (as in freedom) software that is available for the platform, and this is what drives me to continue to use it. For those of us who enjoy computing for computing's sake (i.e. hobbyists), linux is basically paradise.
Oh yeah, I and this LMMS seems interesting, I must check it out. So dugg.
-rcmiv - whiteguysamurai, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Oops, let me fix that..
Lin-ux, don't want a bunch of people in slashdot tees to come hunt me down. - whiteguysamurai, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Linix is fine if you like sitting around doing stuff in cli, but some of us have to work for a living.
- mooseman089, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Hey I got to lower macungie middle school and we always abbreviate it as LMMS now that is just weird
- CluelessTroll, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Excuse me, whilst I kiss the sky.
- theothermike, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0And hey if you like techno, why not check out http://podcast.techno.fm for some sweet electronic music (techno, house, progressive, psytrance, drum'n'bass)
/shameless self promotion - helios, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Linix is fine if you like sitting around doing stuff in cli, but some of us have to work for a living....
LOL, We have 12 year old kids using two different distros and maybe twice a week use the cli, and they are even doing the installation. If you are having problems with Linux, I'm sure I can have one of them give you some email support...they are pretty bright kids. - CluelessTroll, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0The poster made use of the term "whilst", he MUST be technologically savvy!.
But seriously, do people actually speak like this? I mean, other than to a room full of 17 year old uber nerds with their pulsating "Everquest" induced erections? - tadelste, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1I see your handle is Virus 9. Isn't Windows just a virus.
Everything works fine except the operating system which sufers from all sorts of maladies like cross linking, fragmented file systems, OS rot.
Yuke.
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