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- valis, on 05/30/2009, -2/+30So ... why is "Linux" in the title?
- nachowski, on 05/30/2009, -1/+27And this is related to Linux how??
- Shogi, on 05/30/2009, -1/+26Still way behind the curve: IE.
- Johnglave, on 05/30/2009, -1/+13Which is better? Theres only one way to find out! FIGHT!
- ozziegt, on 05/30/2009, -2/+11Should read: Greatly lowering the quality of extensions by lowering the bar
- LANjackal, on 05/30/2009, -0/+9I'm not really too sure why the submission is entitled "Linux" as Firefox runs on all platforms & Chrome is available in a stable release on Windows only.
- dawpa2000, on 05/30/2009, -0/+8Yes, it was quite unfortunate.
- Nephersir7, on 05/30/2009, -0/+8Just look at his other submissions: http://digg.com/users/greenx/history/submissions
- FearlessFreep, on 05/30/2009, -0/+8Maybe Linux is now allowing HTML/CSS based kernel extensions?
- renegadeafk, on 05/30/2009, -1/+9lol everyone puts down opera when it did this ages ago (widgets) but when firefox does it its apparently awesome
(and I am a firefox user btw) - pingveno, on 05/30/2009, -0/+7So just totally ignore these customers?
- Firefox, Opera, etc. users
- Mac users
- Linux users
- People who can't install ActiveX controls
That takes care of about 25%+ of potential users in the general population. Suggest that to a serious businessman and you'll be laughed out of the room. You'll get some performance boost and loose massive amounts of money. - N01SE, on 05/30/2009, -0/+4Opera never gets on anyone's radar in the states for some reason. Opera has been at the forefront of the HTML 5 transition as well. When some people see a bandwagon, they just jump in, no questions asked I guess.
- retoretoreto, on 05/30/2009, -2/+6..because it's closed source.
- kr3mliyn, on 05/30/2009, -0/+4It saddens me that Harry Hill humour hasn't gone international yet.
- MonkeyFarts, on 05/31/2009, -0/+3MrViklund and prophetpimp = tards
- NobodyWhoCares, on 05/30/2009, -0/+3Pingveno has it spot on, plus lets not forget the amusement that ActiveX caused in the past with IE6 and earlier, namely the many *many* ways it could be abused by crapware.
- chockster, on 05/30/2009, -2/+5"Oh I know the new Hulu Client-Server app beats the pants off of the thin-client Hulu web page. It isn't even a contest."
In the way that they both do the same thing, using the same technologies in the same way? - chadsmith729, on 05/30/2009, -0/+3Greenx, you should know by now that if you leave out Linux in the title you get more diggs. 158, when it's announcing something that is REALLY quite innovative from both the Mozilla and Google camps.
- BrownieMix, on 05/30/2009, -0/+2I applaud both Mozilla and Google. They're really going to add a lot of new third party programmers by doing this.
- dawpa2000, on 05/31/2009, -1/+3secrity, have you tried using AdSweep? It makes ad blocking much easier, not near the same level of easiness and functionality as AdBlock, however.
- RobotBuddha, on 05/31/2009, -1/+3There's a pretty big difference between an extension system and widgets/userscripts/etc.
- Derrekito, on 06/01/2009, -0/+2Now that sounds safe...
- N01SE, on 05/30/2009, -0/+2XAML seems to me just a reinvention of HTML/CSS for Silverlight and WPF, but why reinvent the wheel? HTML/CSS is not broken, it's just missing a few UI additions of which most are being added in HTML 5 or can already be found in SVG. I think it's counter productive to be adding additional markup languages instead of adding to and improving a widely accepted, open format, I'd rather have an open standard for UI markups than dozens of different ones that do the same thing just with different tag names and processing.
- 4321234, on 05/30/2009, -3/+4So the submission will get hits from microsoft fanboys.
- inactive, on 05/30/2009, -3/+4mozilla = godly, Google = Good, IE = Evil, Safari = Fabulousssssssssssss, Opera = Emo.
- N01SE, on 05/30/2009, -0/+1Prepare to see tons more mashups now (a whole lot of ***** ones and a few good ones).
I think HTML/CSS are fantastic UI languages. It boggles my mind that desktop apps and windowing systems still use clunky UI APIs. Markup languages seem to be the best at representing UI in terms of maintainability and readability for developers.
On the other hand, HTML/CSS is limiting in terms of the varieties of interfaces you can create, this is because they are very specialized in what they do (used for 2D text and imagery) if I want 3D elements or visualizations, those are much harder to do requiring canvas + javascript, Flash, etc. Plus we need TOOLS for building and designing javascript/svg/canvas-based animations similar to Flash, not scripts and function calls for animating. - macslut, on 05/30/2009, -2/+3What's funny is Microsoft did this years ago with IE for the Mac. The functionality was hidden for a long time, but once word got out on how to do it, it was incredibly easy and fun. Since so few people used IE for the Mac, and even fewer would actually develop extensions, this was poorly organized and didn't take off, but there were some pretty amazing things people came up with using just HTML and Javascript.
Of course Microsoft ended IE support for the Mac years ago. I'm not sure why they never adopted this feature on the Windows side. - FKnight, on 05/30/2009, -0/+1Embrace, Extend, Extinguish
- secrity, on 05/30/2009, -2/+3I use Opera and Firefox, but I am annoyed that ad blocking in Opera is not nearly as easy as Firefox with Adblock.
- ultrafez, on 05/30/2009, -0/+1The way that the article referred to it possibly being difficult having an extension system within an extension is basically like the current situation with Greasemonkey and Firefox - essentially you create a minature extension that runs within Greasemonkey. Greasemonkey doesn't seem to have much of an uptake with the general Firefox userbase, so if this new "Jetpack" is to succeed then it needs to be made very user friendly.
- ultrafez, on 05/30/2009, -1/+2HTML is much better for flowing text than it is for UI markup. HTML makes it too difficult to lay things out on a grid which is what UI's are built on.
- DreadKnight, on 05/30/2009, -0/+1I only look at linux section most of the time :P
- renegadeafk, on 06/02/2009, -0/+1thats what jetpack is...
- inactive, on 07/25/2009, -0/+1I like Google things and experiments and Mozilla is my browser
http://lacaidadepelo.com - N01SE, on 05/30/2009, -0/+1float:left | right (Learn how to use it)
- brownr21, on 05/30/2009, -2/+2HTML was a fantastic UI language 10 years ago. See XAML (Silverlight) for current fantastic UI languages.
- chadsmith729, on 05/30/2009, -1/+1I was thinking the same thing. JetPack is cool, been using it since it came out. Developed a few things in it.
- chockster, on 05/31/2009, -0/+0From a technical standpoint, perhaps (though I'd debate what the the real difference is in using Air over Flash, but whatever), but from the end user perspective it isn't. There is nothing in the desktop app (as it currently stands) that couldn't be done inside a browser.
- scumman, on 05/30/2009, -1/+1HOW ABOUT FIXING THE BUGS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XAqTyhJ5bQ - B1665r, on 05/30/2009, -3/+2In that one is a web page, and the other is an Adobe Air application, is that how you mean they use the same technologies the same way?
Yeah, I don't think you are using the word "same" the way its creator intended.
LOL. - divinediva, on 05/30/2009, -6/+3It appears that great minds think alike.
- inactive, on 05/30/2009, -6/+1I can make firefox do this. The day Opera or any other browser gives me this level of customisation, i will give it a look. Till then Firefox FTW.
http://img188.imageshack.us/my.php?image=91459760. ... - B1665r, on 05/30/2009, -7/+2Oh I know the new Hulu Client-Server app beats the pants off of the thin-client Hulu web page. It isn't even a contest.
Developers have beel derailed for to long on this "everything will be a web page" fantasy, and they are finally getting back to nice client-server applications. I can't wait to see the ways that the eventual Digg client-server app beats the pants off of the current Digg thin-client app. As a bonus I bet it is Windows and Mac only, and the freetards will be forced to use Digg with the primitive web page interface. - ddcool1124, on 05/30/2009, -11/+0Active X FTW. Native code forever!!! Screw bloated slow interpreted scripts.
- MrViklund, on 05/30/2009, -12/+3Mozilla = Good. Google = Bad.
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