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- jggube, on 05/25/2008, -2/+57Going Linux could show us one of the biggest mobile manufacturer's to adobt an open technology, and that's certainly an interesting trend to monitor as companies, more and more, embrace the open source community.
- czeman, on 05/25/2008, -3/+48Sweet. I'm not a big fan of Windows Mobile. This is a step in the right direction.
- QsheiK, on 05/25/2008, -3/+33Microsoft has Windows Mobile. Apple has a version of OSX on the iPhone, so I say why not? Mind you, Symbian is really good too.
The more options, the merrier. - inactive, on 05/25/2008, -3/+27Instead of batteries? COOL !
- TheMachine1, on 05/25/2008, -5/+25Damn I had a bet Linux embedded suicide booths would be the next killer application.
- mscf, on 05/25/2008, -0/+19Nokia, as mentioned in the article, already has a mature linux platform with their internet tablets, and their extensibility clearly demonstrates the advantages of an open source operating system. I, personally, run hamachi (a great vpn solution, if you aren't familiar with it) with vnc to access servers that i administer, saving me the trouble of lugging around my laptop on many occasions. If they do release Linux based phones in the near future, I would likely purchase one, based on my experiences with their current offerings.
-posted from a Nokia Internet Tablet - mintywhite, on 05/25/2008, -3/+21Open source is certainly the future; this is very good news.
"Linux competes directly with offerings from Microsoft, which charges for its Windows software and opposes freely sharing its code." Let's see how long Microsoft lasts by doing this. - badassninja, on 05/25/2008, -0/+17Hum... Android anyone? Google's Linux based OS that will come pre-packed with phones, but because it's open source and google you can bet your ass that people will be changing the code to make it run on as many phones as possable. One of the goals of Android is to make it where programers can make software that will run on any phone running android. I'm under the understanding now that it is very hard to do this with out something like a standard cell phone OS.
- Giga, on 05/25/2008, -1/+15It needs some sort of OS to run. Are you implying that you believe current phones mystically just work without software?
- localzuk, on 05/25/2008, -2/+14Ahh, the memories of being 8.
- SSUK, on 05/25/2008, -6/+17Ah, good to see we're back to primary school insults again. Insults on Digg were a little too high-brow for my liking.
- Lemon, on 05/25/2008, -0/+10Ask any developer. Symbian is a pig.
- supertones, on 05/25/2008, -0/+9That article lacked any real information. Why no mention of acquiring Trolltech? Qtopia, made by Trolltech, now Nokia, runs very well on Linux.
In related news OpenMoko decided to switch to Qtopia also for their Neo open source phone, which is interesting considering it is made by Nokia. IMO Qt is an important of a story as the use of Linux. - cupofjoe88, on 05/25/2008, -0/+9Sounds like a good thing for everyone.
- diskit, on 05/25/2008, -3/+12I like the pretext "May".
- matschig, on 05/25/2008, -12/+21Linux rules, Windows DROOLS!
- Giga, on 05/25/2008, -0/+8Considering they recently bought Trolltech for the Qtopia technology, you would expect them to use it. And I doubt that Nokia would use Windows Mobile to run the CE build of Qt...
- priegog, on 05/25/2008, -2/+10yeah, being the number one mobile manufacturer clearly shows everybody thinks the same as you about Nokia.
- Orcmors, on 05/25/2008, -0/+8OS just means Operating System. Every modern phone has one. Just because they're proprietary and don't have "hip" names like Vista and Leopard doesn't mean they don't.
- srg13, on 05/25/2008, -0/+8Red Hat is a for-profit company, and they're doing great
- inactive, on 05/25/2008, -3/+10I'm a Linux users but I don't share the views of most people that Windows Mobile sucks. It's a mobile version of the OS but it's great, you have your MS Office mobile with you and you can use it for your presentantions, avoiding to bring your heavy laptop..
- inactive, on 05/25/2008, -2/+8Linux is the future.
- glinsvad, on 05/25/2008, -1/+7Are you saying that tunneling SSH from my phone to my desktop is going over-board?
- qwuinc, on 05/25/2008, -0/+6Symbian/S60 may be doing nice at the moment, but I wouldn't exactly describe that as a truly open platform, so it'll be interesting if Nokia chucks out some Linux phones that can be freely hacked on.
- priegog, on 05/25/2008, -0/+5This is great news, even if they turn out not to do it in the end.
In truth Nokia has already shown it's open-mindness by using Linux on their internet tablets. And the result? They became the first of such devices to actually sell. Nokia seems to be getting how powerful it is to have the community develop for you in an enviroment that makes it easy to port apps over from desktop Linux. I mean, have you ever seen the maemo world mapper? It's insane! And that's just the kind of thing an open platform leads to. Right now, Nokia offers decently priced internet devices that offer TONS of functionality (streaming radio, GPS software, etc, etc.) which they didn't spend a dime to develop for. This is what sets it appart from the iphone (I know, I know, not the same device, but their target audiences and uses certainly overlap). The users have already showed a willingness to develop crazy stuff (intaller.app for the iphone). Why would apple want to even TRY to regulate (read: make sure they don't make anything they wouldn't want you to have) such a good thing?
Hopefully this announcement becomes a reality, and between this, the LiMo project, Android and OpenMoko, in a few years time mobile providers should only have to worry about developing awesome hardware specs, because the software would be taken care of. And the functionality would be on par (almost) to that of a computer.
/perfect world wishful thinking - jlebrech, on 05/25/2008, -0/+5Some manufacturer needs to produce an Android phone like yesterday. I see tons of Android apps but the phones are just like vapourware at the moment. If Nokia could just say "hey hello here's our new phone with android" i would definately buy it.
An android manufacturer needs to anounce their phone before the 3G iphone is released otherwise the userbase for the Android phone will have already bought an iphone. - Wakuko, on 05/25/2008, -0/+5Not so fast,
Right now M$ black choppers full of cash are heading to finland for an executive meeting to discuss some insignificant details.
We know their ways - qwuinc, on 05/25/2008, -0/+4... but still a piece of *****. I don't know a single person who would've said that they like programming for Symbian. And it's not really an open platform...
- celkin, on 05/25/2008, -0/+4Yeah, the Windows suicide booths are just too slow and painful.
- Sokkratez, on 05/25/2008, -0/+4I'll say at least 33 years.
- insider69, on 05/25/2008, -2/+6The Nokia SW strategy is to arrange the SW in such a way that the HW becomes cheaper.
SW is cheap, HW is not. Anything that drops the price of the DSP by 10 cents will save the company millions.
Nokia doesn't give a crap if it's Symbian, Linux, whatever. In fact, it makes sense for Nokia to have their hands in as many OSes as possible, like they currently do.
There's more info out there, if you know what you're looking for. ;)
Bookmark it. Learn it. Live it.
I'm now prepared to be Dugg down because none of you idiots know what you are talking about anyway. - WCL23, on 05/25/2008, -0/+4Nope, i'm talking about the latest versions, used by the N95 and such. Everyone i've spoken to seems to have a similar story aswell. My brand new N71 is junk for example. The os regularly crashes and restarts.
- adammharvey, on 05/25/2008, -1/+5Android!
- GreenAlien, on 05/25/2008, -3/+7I'd rather poke myself in the eye than poke around at Windows Mobile. Once you see cheap iPhone imitations for the home screen which kick back into pokey Windows Mobile UI when you try to do anything you realise just how out of date the OS is. It was always going to be that way. If you take a desktop OS and try to squeeze it down into a mobile phone it's always going to be a pokey affair.
Nokia invested heavily in Symbian so I can't see Linux being used in their whole portfolio any time soon, but I've been disappointed in Symbian. It started out as an awesome platform with EPOC release 3 and 5 and all that seems to of come of it so far is Series 60 which has lacked a touchscreen and UIQ which is still the pokey sluggish affair it has been since v2. I can only see a future for the iPhone and Linux at the moment. Windows Mobile and Symbian have had their day unless someone over there gets a clue, goes back to the drawing board and drastically revamps the UI. Symbian's saving grace was its 3rd party apps, but it will only have that advantage for a few weeks then it's goodbye Symbian for me. - LMaxey, on 05/25/2008, -0/+4That was just fantastic.
- passedoutghost, on 05/25/2008, -0/+3S60 ftw :D, but since Linux is open source it would be a lot more flexible in terms of third party apps, etc...
- tdlrali, on 05/25/2008, -0/+3If it has some sort of display then it definitely has an OS.
- quamis, on 05/25/2008, -0/+3well, dont we all want the prices to get cut down? this is why 10 cents would mean millions for nokia... and for any major manufacturer. The thing is that i dont belive that M$ will allow this to happen (UMPC`s in australia anyone?)
but using open-source on the phone would have lots of advantages for the users, and thats why everybody around here seems to think its a good ideea for them to run linux. - qwuinc, on 05/25/2008, -0/+3So... is that feature going into the main tree in the next merge window...? ;-)
- WCL23, on 05/25/2008, -4/+7Hopefully. The current Symbian OS or whatever it's called is absolute rubbish. It's slow, buggy, and regularly crashes for me. I don't care what they do, but they desperately need a better one!
- qwuinc, on 05/25/2008, -0/+3There's a little tip in the URL if you want to skip reading Linux-related pieces.
- repick3, on 05/25/2008, -0/+3***** THE RIAA!
- QuadSix50, on 05/25/2008, -0/+2Says the sheep that believes the MS marketing machine. Interesting that it took WIndows XP 7 YEARS to actually become stable and usable to the point where people speak of it like they did about Windows 2000 during its waning days. I guess you can kiss it goodbye in the near future once Mother Microsoft pushes Vista down your throat. ;-)
Yes, this was written on a Dell Latitude D630 laptop from work running Ubuntu 8.04 on Firefox 3.0b5. Been running quite well ever since, but I digress. This was about embedded Linux, and thats' been running on phones quite well for years now without all those Microsoft sheep ever knowing about it. :-) - tdlrali, on 05/25/2008, -1/+3I love unjustified statements like yours.
- czeman, on 05/25/2008, -0/+2I wouldn't say it sucks, but I've had a few problems with it locking up and such on a few different phones. I'd like to see how Linux performs.
- Lith25, on 05/25/2008, -0/+2From the Red Hat site: "The Linux standard. For businesses, governments, or other users looking for stable, supported, and certified Linux. Available for immediate download starting at $80. "
Doesn't sound like they are giving it away to me.
edit: damn new reply buttons...meant for srg13's comment. - GreenAlien, on 05/25/2008, -0/+2S40 is not Symbian. Nokia have been using it before Symbian came along. It's based on their own OS.
- Xanium4332, on 05/25/2008, -0/+2Well to me they lasted around 2 years, cause that's the time from when I learnt of 'other' operating systems to switching to Linux completely.
- simonsez21, on 05/25/2008, -0/+2ALLTEL SUCKS!
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