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- Monza, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10An ambitious project!
There are many recent developments in guitars with on board electronics.
For reference, here's some links to what's available on the market today:
Variax 600
http://line6.com/variax/
Gibson HD.6X-Pro
http://www.gibson.com/DigitalGuitarNew/gibsonDigital.html
Fender VG Stratocaster
http://www.fender.com/vgstrat/home.html
I've observed that some guitarists decry their sound as "too artificial" and "lacking in richness," considering this type of instrument as a gimmick. Others embrace it; it's yet another instrument to try out, bringing a palette of different sounds to explore. - Nooze2k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4As an owner of a Roland VG-88 (and previous owner of the VG-8), I can honestly say that there are simply some things with the new technology that you simply cannot do with tubes and such. Yes, I love the sound of a good Les Paul through a Marshal stack as much as the next player, but the fact that I can have the sound of pretty much any guitar and amp is a boon to my playing ensemble. And I've noticed that the sound from solid-state/modelling systems is getting better and better. Roland is coming out with the new VG-99 successor to the other models, and I can't wait to get my hands on it. You really have to see/hear these in action to find out what all this new tech is all about.
- thtroyer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I love guitars and I love Linux, but this doesn't excite me too much. Having a recording studio in my guitar is not why I have a guitar.
I'd much rather see a stand alone Linux stompbox/amp modeler. Hmm... - wozley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3That would make remembering riffs a hell of a lot easier! I hate making up something nice and then forgetting what it was later. Great idea, thanks for sharing!
- skribble, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Digital Guitar modeling has come a long way over the last couple of years, but there does seem to be something missing from digital guitar, there's a certain life in a guitar/tube amp combo that digital can't touch, there's a breathing imperfection that digital modeling just can't quite capture, a subtleness that effects the sound by the way you strike the strings (the touch sensitivity of a quality class A tube amp for example). Plus only now have digital rigs gotten to a smoothness (resolution) that matches closely with CD resolution.
That said there are many advantages to digital rigs, you can get sounds and effects that are impossible with analogue rigs.
I think a nice hybrid approach may be the answer (i.e. the strat listed above is basically a standard strat with a Roland digital pickup added so you could run both digital and analogue independently (and switch between them or run them in parallel). Very nice.
Vox (aka Korg) has done some nice things with a hybrid approach as well with their tonelab stuff they have a digital preamp with a tube driven output that really masks the digital artifacts and gives a nice touch sensitivity (they recently announced a new LE model to replace there aging SE -> http://www.voxamps.co.uk/tonelab/ - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3It's a great idea, but it would be nice if there were easier ways to get into recording on desktop Linux itself. I'm often stumped when follow how-tos on low latency audio and whatnot. Yes, I could install a distribution geared for it, but it's not necessary what I spend 100% of my time doing.
- DeadlyBrad42, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Isn't that why they're working on Ubuntu Studio? It's supposed to be good for audio and video editing. The homepage is here http://ubuntustudio.org/ but it's not been released yet.
- kremvax, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2If you think that's a pain, you ought to try getting latency down on a windows box.
At least with linux, you can (very) explicitly set task priorities within the system itself. With windows, it's a nightmarish game of blackBox. - regeya, on 12/20/2007, -0/+1Look, maw, I'm feeding the troll!
You can't think of any use for electronics in a guitar other than cheating? You're highly unimaginative. - jguerry, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1it'd be nice if i didn't need any wires to record. just lay down the track with the guitar and just the guitar.
if i want to filter the sound, then firewire/usb2 it out to my pc. - skribble, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Latency is a problem with recording always has been. Firewire (and allegedly USB 2) systems with good drivers has gotten it down to .1ms or less which is pretty much non detectable. Prior to that digital interfaces would compensate for latency so you wouldn't get all screwed up (it very disconcerting to play an instrument with any noticeable latency).
For Linux the problem would be the driver issue. I'm sure someone could code one but it's a lot of work. - swalter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What about the Brian Moore iGuitar. I know it has a stupid name, but take it from me... it's sick. You can record three tracks at once in Garageband or logic. Plus it's got USB. High quality too, like that of a PRS. Check it out:
http://www.iguitar.com - Troopy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Get a decent soundcard, its the only way to reduce latency.
- DagMX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0noones talking about it making your shredding skills better, they're just talking about using linux and integrated hardware to help in recording and in adding effects(much like the alesis x-guitar if i remember its name correctly) or for guitar modelling(like the variax).
i think its a great idea, and the closest thing right now would be the line 6 variax.
Id be very interested in having one if they ever did mass produce it, especially for the effects modelling, and im sure somebody would then be able to make it compatible with that hand-triggered wah-box(forgot its name) to control a virtual expression pedal and then you'd have a completely integrated guitar modelling, effects modelling, amp modelling(like amplitube) and recording solution.If it had an inbuilt whammy effect, I'd be sold - catalysis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Cool idea, but I doubt they will have the DSP power to produce quality sound with the embedded device. Pretty cool for just messing around though if they make it sound decent.
- polux12, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0great
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1This is something similar (It's more like guitar hero):
http://louhi.kempele.fi/~skyostil/uv/fretsonfire/ - SwellGuy007, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0A good quality sound card that allows you to lower the buffer size will help with latency issues. With fewer samples passing through the buffers the latency can be drastically improved. I think it is more of a hardware based problem then an OS specific one.
- speedygonzalez, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2can you use it with guitar hero? :)
this idea is actually very do-able, i bet they get this off the ground very soon. - GreigMcGill, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0I want it to have one of these:
http://unmaintained.blogspot.com/2006/09/phils-kaoss-pad-guitar-mod.html - geekee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1deleted
- nmrk, on 10/31/2007, -2/+0You have got to be kidding, a "guitar powered by linux"..?!?!?! Sorry, a guitar is powered by mechanical energy stored in taut metal guitar strings, the plucking of the strings by a plectrum, and the tension of fingertips against frets. Linux is not going to help any of these essential features.
I have heard these sorts of stupid computerized instrument proposals for years, and they all have something in common: they are all ideas by amateurs who hope to find a technical substitute for talent and ability. Sorry, there is no substitute for practice and study. Learn to play your instrument first. It is easier to improve your skills than to improve your instrument. - benijuana, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1that would be alot of fun to smash on stage after a show.
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