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- nhnFreespirit, on 07/07/2008, -1/+10Heh!
This has got to be the funniest troll I have read for a while. The "The likes of Li*us, R*S [masked for legal reasons]" part really makes you sound like someone important in the know. /sarcasm
Aaaaanyway, just for easy target practice, lets shoot down your claims one by one ;-)
"The likes of Li*us, R*S [masked for legal reasons] and other notable individuals have corrupted the youth to create a cult to serve their personal and political agendas."
While RMS does indeed have a strong political agenda that you can agree or disagree with, Linus is strongly apolitical. And really, its your choice to use or not use their software. As for RMS speaking out against Microsoft, that is his prerogative ( just as you are free to troll on the Internet ) and has little or no bearing on Linux as such.
"By providing the bored and disenfranchised with the opportunity to group together to fight a common enemy [Microsoft], the inexperienced youth is psychologically manipulated into joining this neo-Marxist Linux hive communion. They are offered a sense of family and a purpose in life. Then people just start to disapear."
I think you invented a new term ( "neo-Marxist Linux hive communion" ) here. Other than that, I have a hard time deciphering what you are trying to say. While Marxism is essentially about equally ( at least in theory, never works out in real life ) distributing something inherently limited ( money, goods, ... ) the idea the idea behind Free Software is to give everything to everyone. Since I can give this to you without taking it away from someone else, any comparison to failed socio political ideas of the past are a straw man. Also, see my point about who actually contributes to Linux below...
"Unfortunately, since the foundation of Linux is all based on lies and manipulation, the Linux user-base tends to have a lot to say, and nothing to add. They know the price of everything, yet the value of nothing."
Wah wah wah.... You are not really saying anything... Concrete examples about lies and manipulations please!
"The Linux community is not a user-base, but rather a pressure group of furor, zealotry and fanaticism. It is driven by fear, uncertainty and distrust. They have no middle ground. You are either with them, or against them. Linux is all about submission!"
More wah wah wah.... ( Are you getting paid for this, or just getting a kick out of it? :-)
"Also take note that while they talk the talk, they never tend to walk the walk. “Taking one’s own medicine” is always expected to be done by someone else."
See, now is the time I pull up the recently conducted study on who actually writes the Linux kernel these days: http://weblog.infoworld.com/openresource/archives/ ...
Among the top contributors are such "bored and disenfranchised" youths as Red Hat ( A company based entirely around Linux with a current market cap of 4.02 Billion ), IBM, Nokia, Intel, Novel, Oracle and HP. So claiming that there is no real drive behind the development, and that noone is willing to “Taking one’s own medicine” is simply not true. These companies recognize that they can get value of out putting some work into the Linux kernel, even if it means sharing these changes freely with the rest of the world. It seems that it is you who "know the price of everything, yet the value of nothing". For most of them, it i simply a matter of putting in the 1% percent unique work they really need to get the other 99% for free. Oh, and this is actually the free market in full effect, which further demolishes your Marxism strawman form above.
"This has been demonstrated under the Dell IdeaStorm initiative, … They harassed Dell into selling Linux systems, yet bought none."
Sorry, wrong again. Dell has publicly commented that sales of these system are going well and has been expanding the lineup http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?com ...
And saving the best for last:
"And since you cannot uninstall Ubuntu Linux from a system [why is that?], Dell now has 100,000 boxes sitting in storage waiting to be shipped to a dump."
In what corner of what dung pile in the creepy corners of the Internet did you pull this little nugget? Really, I would like to know! Like any other operating system Linux ( Ubuntu included ) can be uninstalled by overwriting the hard drive with a new one. A Windows install cd will happily reformat the entire drive, leaving no trace of Linux at all. - cppwizard, on 07/08/2008, -0/+8FTA: "Linux is written and developed in antiquated C. The code-base is a perverse heap of undocumented spaghetti code that is impossible to work with." Sounds like you are talking about VISTA.
- ArthurSucks, on 07/07/2008, -0/+6Almost fell for it. Nice.
- agentlame, on 07/07/2008, -1/+5I respect RMS for all he's done, and his positions on Free Software...
But anymore, every time he speaks, it seems like he's hurting OSS. - manishsinha27, on 07/08/2008, -0/+4Biggest joke of the Year! Vista is crap, even Microsoft developers admit it.
At MS India, people don't want to acknowledge that they have tested IE7 as none wants to take the risk of getting kicked out.
Looks like the one who put the site up is nothing but a troll. He's insane. - daftman, on 07/08/2008, -0/+3Nope, he's pretty consistent to what he said.
Most of us will flip-flop our philosophy depending on who's paying the most, but RMS has been very very consistent so far.
You can thank RMS for the Free Software ecology that he created. Without him, Digg, Slashdot, Reddit are all probably running on Microsoft servers or worse expensive AIX - tnoy, on 07/07/2008, -3/+6He's just pissed because everyone just calls it Linux, and not GNU/Linux.
- entidi, on 07/09/2008, -0/+2No, it isn't.
- invasi0n, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2Promotinglinux.com is probably a joke or something....
- 4DFX, on 07/07/2008, -1/+3I suggest everybody blocks this *****.
- frase, on 07/09/2008, -0/+2Righto, for a starters, he's not having a jibe at Bill Gates in particular. He's just using the notable occasion of his reitrement to raise awareness of the bigger issues at hand. I quote: "But Gates didn't invent proprietary software, and thousands of other companies do the same thing. It's wrong, no matter who does it."
Also, Stallman never suggested that people shouldn't get paid to write good software - how do you think Stallman makes a living (or used to?) Companies would pay him to write the features they wanted. He campaigns for the freedom of software, and there are business models compatible with the free software philosophy and which do not "cheapen" the profession of software development one iota.
And while many people are focused on producing free-software alternatives to commercial software (and this -is- important), if you truly believe there is no innovation in free software, you are severely mistaken. - alexiadeath, on 07/09/2008, -0/+2Yeah.. and when they do innovate people like you are the first to whine why things do not work like you expect from using their commercial counterparts. Linux is not free Windows. Deal.
On RMS, I think he is a bit sour on the whole GNU/Linux thing... And a bit extreme in his views. But that is needed too :) - tnoy, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_cont ...
- hellraiserrishi, on 07/08/2008, -0/+0I don't think that would be the problem....it seems silly....
- createuniverses, on 07/09/2008, -1/+1What a pathetic, miserable, disappointing, contemptible tool.
After the bitter, repeated and utterly disappointing failure of broken and bit rotting open source software, the best this aging hippie douchebag can do is take limp potshots at a guy who decided he deserved to get paid for his work.
It was fashionable to believe that MS was causing the development of software to be stunted because of its monopoly. I've come to believe that in fact, lunatics like this are responsible - by pushing the idea that we don't have to pay for people to develop software, the open source pushers have cheapened the profession, and made the practice of software development seem like some sort of toy occupation, something trivial, not an enterprise to be taken seriously or funded properly.
Instead of building interesting, new, innovative software the best the FSF morons do is produce ugly, broken "free" replicas of commercial software. - michaelkbrandow, on 07/08/2008, -0/+0What a G
- LanEvo, on 07/08/2008, -1/+1i liek how u sayd dat rms is teh godfather of loonix that'll relly piss him off
- hellraiserrishi, on 07/07/2008, -0/+0he might seem that way, but I think we need his aggressiveness for sure...I mean Linux and open source s/w have been here for more than a decade now and still many people don't understand why they need to make a switch...don't you want all that to end?
- ArthurSucks, on 07/07/2008, -4/+3RMS is a strange guy.
- manishsinha27, on 07/08/2008, -2/+1Just replace that C with C++ in the above comment and it becomes perfect coz Vista is written in C++ AFAIK
- hehe154, on 07/07/2008, -8/+0Oh, look. If it isn't 4DFX, the most witty commenter on the Digg Linux section! (read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Olympics )
I bet you think you're original too! With the Ubuntu logo as you avatar.
Go piss into a transformer.
LONG LIVE www.linsux.org - RedTroll, on 07/07/2008, -17/+1Most of the Linux user-base is comprised of young and impressionable individuals.
The likes of Li*us, R*S [masked for legal reasons] and other notable individuals have corrupted the youth to create a cult to serve their personal and political agendas.
By providing the bored and disenfranchised with the opportunity to group together to fight a common enemy [Microsoft], the inexperienced youth is psychologically manipulated into joining this neo-Marxist Linux hive communion. They are offered a sense of family and a purpose in life. Then people just start to disapear.
Unfortunately, since the foundation of Linux is all based on lies and manipulation, the Linux user-base tends to have a lot to say, and nothing to add. They know the price of everything, yet the value of nothing.
The Linux community is not a user-base, but rather a pressure group of furor, zealotry and fanaticism. It is driven by fear, uncertainty and distrust. They have no middle ground. You are either with them, or against them. Linux is all about submission!
Also take note that while they talk the talk, they never tend to walk the walk. “Taking one’s own medicine” is always expected to be done by someone else. This has been demonstrated under the Dell IdeaStorm initiative, … They harassed Dell into selling Linux systems, yet bought none. And since you cannot uninstall Ubuntu Linux from a system [why is that?], Dell now has 100,000 boxes sitting in storage waiting to be shipped to a dump.
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