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- int19h, on 02/16/2009, -2/+38Enlightenment has been around since the first Linux distributions. It was perhaps the first windowmanager that really tried to look good. Also, Enlightenment is the basis of the Google-centric gOS distro and is also rich with features. Since it's been about 2D all these years, it's pretty cool that they have added 3D as well now, with the combination with Compiz.
- katrayun, on 02/17/2009, -0/+21"What's wrong with Ubuntu?" If everyone's using Linux, he doesn't get to feel special anymore.
- jsffive, on 02/17/2009, -3/+21Most beautiful?
Really...
REALLY?
Take away the background image, and it looks pretty ***** to me. - seamustry, on 02/16/2009, -2/+19What's wrong with Ubuntu?
- vegr, on 02/16/2009, -3/+19e17 + compiz?
mind = blown - tattokris, on 02/17/2009, -0/+15I guess that "it just works". I have tried out many distros and Ubuntu is the only one that I don't have to spend massive amounts of time and effort to get small things working correctly. It is a great base, just skin it to fit your needs.
- tama00, on 02/16/2009, -4/+18Is Enlightenment 17 ever going to be released? It looks so good but i just can't justify running a beta copy of it.
- tattokris, on 02/16/2009, -2/+13That it isn't Ubuntu. Too many Linux fans are Ubuntu haters.
- pendrachken, on 02/17/2009, -2/+13Go troll somwhere else.
If you can't just leave Xorg using nv/VESA as "working" ( gee you get a unaccelerated desktop to google how to set the original drivers in 10 mins or less) - volcompimp, on 02/17/2009, -2/+11Except it was the other way around dumb ass.... Compiz has been around since before
Microsoft even began coding any such imitation. - andycr512, on 02/17/2009, -1/+10"I spent TWO days trying to get xorg server to work with my nVidia card"
If it took you two days to find the drivers for your graphics card (especially if you used Ubuntu, which would do it for you), Linux really isn't for you.
By the way, that's not the kind of thing I would want to admit on a public venue. - time4wrk, on 02/16/2009, -0/+8elive was there before the whole compiz-fusion craze.
- OhHeyTeebs, on 02/16/2009, -2/+8No one should emulate Flip 3D.
- DigitalisAkujin, on 02/17/2009, -1/+7Lol yea cause it sucks
- derbloodlust, on 02/16/2009, -0/+6Goddamn that's gorgeous.. can't wait to try this myself. Gotta love functional, lightweight, minimalist beauty WITH compiz fusion.. I've been waiting for a good alternative to KDE+Compiz or XFCE+Compiz, not really a fan of Gnome, but that's just me.
- courtjester555, on 02/17/2009, -0/+6You do know this is the Linux/Unix section, right?
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Now you're thinking with Linux. - eqisow, on 02/17/2009, -1/+6I think they called it Aero
- jonw, on 02/17/2009, -0/+4www.sabayonlinux.org/ << Might be what you're looking for. ;)
- apoc2050, on 02/17/2009, -1/+5Your desktop looks like *****.
- SDNick484, on 02/17/2009, -0/+4No kidding, especially considering how many major re-writes DR17 has seen. I was running the E17 overlay a couple years ago and compared to today it's borderline unrecognizable.
- JigoroKano, on 02/17/2009, -0/+4Windowmaker and Afterstep were around the same time as E.
Linux had already been around for about 5 years. Redhat was on version ~4 by then, version 5 by the time E was usable. - Wandel, on 02/17/2009, -0/+3I think they're still calling it an alpha version.
- MattBD, on 02/17/2009, -0/+3E17 is sweet, but it needs serious work. I've been thinking for a while that E17 would be ideal for netbooks. It's light, fast and beautiful.
A netbook manufacturer needs to hire some of the E17 developers on a salary so they can get it into shape for a stable release. It would rule then. - inc595, on 02/16/2009, -7/+10dugg for linux
- RaulMuadDib, on 02/17/2009, -1/+4On Archlinux you can run Compiz-Fusion as a stand alone WM.
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Compiz_Fusion# ... - canthraxp, on 02/17/2009, -0/+3It's a big contradiction that enlightment presents minimalistic window borders and sizes, but when it comes to the file manager they crap huge vista-like folders. And what the ***** is wrong with the "Elive Control Panel", looks like a lame photoshop work.
Enlightment needs to play catchup, KDE 4 is finally looking good and gnome shines with cairo engines and compiz. - thebloodvayne, on 02/17/2009, -1/+4FyberOptic: you make no sense whatsoever.
Take a look at Windows 7's UI. KDE anyone? - srg13, on 02/17/2009, -0/+3Are you (and everyone who makes stupid comparisons with Windows 98) just plain stupid, or is it just that you can't remember what Windows 98 looked like? Here's a screenshot:
http://blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/windows ...
Low resolution, pixelated fonts, no alpha blending, 256 colour icons with 1 bit transparency, predominately flat, dark grey controls, etc... I mean, you might not like the look of Enlightenment, (looks are a highly subjective thing after all), but no sane person could think that it looks anything like Windows 98... - inactive, on 02/17/2009, -0/+3It's been awhile sense i used e17, but i swear it already had a composite manager built in. And for those complaining about it being ugly, that's whoever decided to make that theme default fault. The Steampunk theme; which comes with e17, is awesome. Even the default e17 theme Bling is better than what's there. The Bling theme brings on the Ghetto Fabulousness of your desktop. There is also no mention of e17's animated wallpapers. It looks as tho, they stripped out everything good in e17 and slapped Compiz on top of it.
- yetAnotherCroc, on 02/19/2009, -0/+3And it sucked
- derbloodlust, on 02/17/2009, -0/+3No problem, you can use any desktop environment that uses a separate window manager, since that's basically what compiz is (plus a ton of bells and whistles.) Gnome, KDE and XFCE are just desktop environments. Gnome usually goes with Metacity, KDE typically with KWin and XFCE with xfwm4. Enlightenment is a window manager, so this intrigues me. Lately I've been using mainly Fluxbox and sometimes KDE+Compiz.
- FyberOptic, on 02/17/2009, -0/+3The whole "fix it yourself" attitude is definitely a turn-off to the community in my opinion. The majority of people don't want to have to fix anything, nor should they have to. Hell, one might even be a pretty good programmer themselves, but their skill might be in some other area. Or maybe they don't want to have to code when they come home just to use their OS properly. What motivation do they have to keep using the OS when people in the other areas are still doing sloppy jobs, and the solution remains "fix it yourself?"
- srg13, on 02/17/2009, -1/+4Linux isn't always ugly. There are thousands of different themes for various desktop environments, and some of them are very, very good. It doesn't sound like you have more experience than a few random screenshots on the internet, which isn't really a great way to make up your opinion. Anyway, you can only really make sweeping generalisations about the look of operating systems like Windows and Mac OS X, which only have one or two themes...
- volcompimp, on 02/17/2009, -1/+4Step over there w/ the rest of the dumb asses who have no idea what's going on...
Elive is just a livecd distro showing off E17 (Enlightenment) + Compiz. - inactive, on 02/16/2009, -8/+10Just ***** dug!
Linux is going to be *the* OS all the others wish they were in the next year or two. - cbeach, on 02/17/2009, -0/+2- Another consumer-targeted distro to confuse newbies. Just when Ubuntu was starting to show promise as a leader
- Screenshots that are all about the wallpaper and aren't a patch on the elegance of OS X, or even Vista
- Silly throw-away effects like the "fold up like a paper plane" and the Vista-style "useless 3d stack"
The Linux community needs to CHOOSE a consumer distro and start innovating and smartening it up in order to make inroads on the desktop market. We don't need more distros. We need effort concentrated into one consumer distro.
Disclaimer - this does not apply to servers, embedded Linux etc - Armadeon, on 02/17/2009, -3/+5I'm really not that impressed. Compiz always just seemed like a waste of resources to me.
- FrederikNS, on 02/17/2009, -0/+2It's a fire effect...
Makes your windows show up and dissappear as a real devil does, in an inferno :D - thebloodvayne, on 02/17/2009, -0/+2I will.
- GusCrown, on 02/16/2009, -0/+2Is there a Distro that has Compiz + al its goodies already pre installed? I'm ultra new to Linux and I don't want to mess around with installing Compiz and mess it up.
- theonewho, on 02/16/2009, -3/+5This is something I've been waiting for and has a (small) chance of replacing my kde 4.2 desktop. Definitely going to give this a try!
- specialK16, on 02/17/2009, -0/+2It's true. For some reason good programmers suck at graphic arts, and the other way around.
But then again, programming can be a sort of art. - priegog, on 02/17/2009, -0/+2So I gave it a whirl for half an hour...
It's not bad. But it doesn't feel much different than the last time I tried it almost 2 years ago. By comparison, see how much Ubuntu has changed in the last 2 years.
e17 is a beautiful wm/de, and it has always given me the feeling that if GUI's are to evolve, enlightenment is the closest one to that unforeseeable nirvana of user interactivity... but it's not there yet. Not by a long shot.
e17 feels pretty stale, an it's a real shame. As someone said earlier, had the project been on par in functionality to KDE and Gnome, it'd be the netbook "killer app" (even tho I hate the term, AND it's not really an app).
I feel something needs to happen to shake the enlightenment world the same way ubuntu shook the linux world; to make it insanely active and productive, to convert people into fanboys. I know I'd get on that bandwagon pretty fast if it's pace picked up. Maybe they should start with their dock. God knows that even tho AWN is the "best" (at least in practicality; for the record: I think e17's dock is very close to perfection) one right now, it's VERY far from perfect. Gnome-do just recently entered the game. A few years back I looked into e17's dock to put on my tablet pc, but found the task IMPOSSIBLE (not a .deb to be found)...
...Or maybe it'd take a little more than that, like the creation of an official ebuntu distro. With ubuntu's backing, I'd get on that pretty soon too.
Or maybe it is one of those things in life which seems too good to be true. A promise that will never deliver.
I'm a little emo right now. - ethana2, on 02/17/2009, -0/+2*shrug*
You told me to.. - P5ycHo, on 02/17/2009, -0/+2No video's?
Bury - je12u, on 02/17/2009, -0/+2I must be clueless as well....so instead of being a dick, why don't you enlighten everyone.
- apoc2050, on 02/17/2009, -0/+2All the controls in the applications still looks like *****. Fix that, and I'll be impressed.
- MWeather, on 02/17/2009, -0/+2So do they use just e17, or do they have it hooked to a desktop environment as well?
- srg13, on 02/17/2009, -1/+3"All they're really proving is that they're good at copying all of Vista and Windows 7's graphical features. All the while, it adds way more overhead to the system to accomplish those tasks in Linux than in Windows"
That's great! Best laugh I've had in a few hours... Seriously though, my brother has a five year old laptop with a Celeron M processor and a cheapo Intel graphics chip, and Compiz works very, very well, and has since we installed it, about a year or two before Windows Vista had come out. And only three or four out of the 30 or 40 plugins I've used emulate Windows effects, but hey, I suppose someone must like them... -
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