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  • lm1981, on 10/12/2007, -9/+38Priceless... literally
    • danglerman, on 10/12/2007, -15/+9must...give...homage
    • miznig, on 10/12/2007, -5/+86I think we've seen enough XGL/Compiz videos by now.
    • Kuipo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19Exactly what I was thinking. Who on digg hasn't seen an xgl video yet? And they almost all do the same things which is fine until they show off the rotating cube for the 12th time in under 60 seconds.
    • OmegaNine, on 10/12/2007, -12/+4I like Fedora Core, but im still a lil ***** with Red Hat for what they did. Fedora Core just seems like they ran out of devel ideas, so they made a free ver so the comunity would devel for thier payware again.
    • fyre2012, on 10/12/2007, -18/+8FC 5 is totally the past, not the future.

      Woo, XGL works... whopdie doo... it's pretty useless.
    • spectre_25gt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21XGL is far from useless. It's got a lot of potential to allow developers to create interfaces that are much more functional than what we currently have.
    • Splizxer, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Does Fedora Core 5 have a unified installer yet?

      Until then, same ***** different package.
    • aznboi04k, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8i don't really see the purpose of that video. just fancy effects, although i have to admit that they're nice.

      interesting that the transitions were so smooth in the video. i run ubuntu with compiz on radeon 9800pro and it's rather laggy when i restore windows. it also tend to have glitches when i restore windows.
    • thepxc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@Fyre

      Not at all. First of all, it's fun. I like my computer to be fun. Next, there are several useful features you ought to keep track of:
      -Of course, the cube. This actually does help a lot of people understand the idea of multiple desktops.
      -The improved alt+tab (live preview + icon)
      -Expose feature/window centery thing

      And, what's most important to me:
      *-zoom. This is useful first of all and obviously, for photo editing, etc. I see a lot of potential in that also, for the visually impaired. For most people, of course, something like Gnopernicus would be nice. But there are some people, like my mother, who have such poor vision that they need a _full screen_ magnification tool. XGL/Compiz already has this, but you can't yet operate the computer with it zoomed. I think that XGL/Compiz is a good platform for such a tool because (although I'm no expert) you need to be on a lower level than a basic application for that kind of magnification/effect. Anyway, people like my mother, with poor vision, can't use Linux, as it is. For work, however, she has a full-screen magnification tool called "Zoomtext" which works on a very low level (screws around with hardware and Windows drivers) and because of this won't run on Linux. I'd really like to see some sort of a visual-impairment plugin for XGL/Compiz that operates full-screen and allows the user to still move the mouse, click, type, etc.

      I guess it's just a personal thing, but I'd still like to see it and I think that XGL would be a good place to start for such things.

      PS: I
    • hunchback, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Maybe the next XGL video should concentrate on what haven't been done yet, not exactly compelling watching a cube turn round and round. And ***** 60 seconds, whats this a speed contest, give it some quality time n00b!!!

      And last tip, when you use tha Linux Inside logo that is derivative of the Intel inside logo? when it is used in your room door or car, it says "I love linux", cool, when you put it on a promo video it says "Linux is derivative", just use the original Penguin logo! And that last shot of some guy with the hat? just looks like some poser *****, it doesnt make Linux cool, what would make Linux truely cool, or any ***** computer OS cool is what it can do for "me" the user. Plus in a B/W photo such as that, the guy is wearing a black hat. bloody n00bs ...
    • streamx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0"XGL is far from useless. It's got a lot of potential to allow developers to create interfaces..."

      So for now it's useless!
    • CharlesDarwin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1What's the deal with XGL? Seriously, who cares about all these bells and whistles? Do people think it will make them like 9,000 times more productive or something? Give me fluxbox or give me death!
    • Corvillus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The purpose of XGL/AIGLX isn't so much the bells and whistles or the interface improvements as the fact that it gets the rendering of the user interface off the CPU and on to the GPU, where it should be in the first place. Vista's Aero and Apple's Quartz Extreme serve the same purpose. The eye candy (the purpose Compiz serves) is just icing on the cake.
  • bigtomrodney, on 10/12/2007, -6/+50That's not a great video - the playback speed is too fast, it skips frames, there are artefacts on the desktop. Plus I'm not a fan of this videos with crappy house-techno playing in the background. It would look/sound a lot better with more frames intact and without the soundtrack.
    • 81v3d07g0d, on 10/12/2007, -27/+3Any opportunity to bash electronic music Right?
    • RangerRick, on 10/12/2007, -10/+6I love many kinds of electronic music, but that was definitely generic crappy house-techno. I dislike any music that I can sequence in less time than it takes to play back the finished song... Don't mistake disliking repetitive crap for disliking the genre. :P

      Now, to be on topic, that's pretty sweet. :)

      I've been meaning to get Xgl working on my FC5 box but hadn't gotten around to it. Guess it's time to give it a shot.
    • illicium, on 10/12/2007, -10/+8It's goa/psy trance, not "generic house techno." P.S: Since when has music not been repetetive? Even contemporary genres have choruses, verses, and other repeating parts. The only never-repeating genres I can think of at the top of my head is ambient and ***** IDM.
    • fyre2012, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2Here here!!
      Goa != house-techno!!!

      Goa and Psytrance rawx.
      www.philosomatika.com
    • luciferin, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3A lot of ambient uses repeating drones and other sounds, just in most cases they do it effectively and use it in a different manner. All music will use repetition, just when you do it properly it won't be very noticeable.
    • Agret, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2The video plays back way too fast but the music was good, that's the only savior. The video is showing...what? That he is using Linux? Oh yay.
    • CharlesDarwin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Any opportunity to bash electronic music Right?"

      I think calling that crap music is offensive to real music. *****, I'd rather listen to Britney Spears!
  • meltingrobot, on 10/12/2007, -2/+31Yeah, XGL is pretty, but how many freaking videos have to be posted of it? I see nothing new in this video compared to every other XGL video I've seen posted on Digg.
    • luciferin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It looks like it's using the new dock plug-in, which I've never seen in action before. They don't really show it off at all in this low quality clip :(
    • DigDugDigger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4It's like when people post screenshots of different Linux distro's. Wow, you're running Gnome/KDE... amazing.
  • Slated, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17This is just a bit of promotion for Fedora Core using XGL.

    For those who don't know; the Fedora Project (and Red Hat) are pushing AIGLX rather than XGL, for the reasons they state here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/aiglx

    This was just a demonstration that XGL on FC5 is not only possible, but actually very easy to implement.

    The video was captured using xvidcap @ 1600x1200, 32bit, 25FPS on a system with a hell of a lot going on, so it doesn't really surprise me that frames were dropped (and that there are artifacts), but actually I think the effect is quite cool.

    Anyway, I'm sure a lot of Fedora users will be happy.
    • Slated, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just a note to say that I've since discovered that capturing at 15 fps results in real-time (proper speed) playback. Oh well, next time, eh? I still think the speedup looks kinda cool though. And the artifacts *are* as a result of video compression; there was *no* onscreen corruption whilst recording.
  • sabelsen, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3But then the post should really include all the details of what you just said, how to install and a more slow-paced video presentation of it in order to be informative. I have nothing against XGL as I use it myself, but this is yet one of many "hey, see what I can do!" posts.
  • defectDS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9As beautiful and amazing as that was, it was making me sick. :)
  • i440, on 10/12/2007, -12/+2With the current market, FC5 has a long way to go before it even starts becoming the desktop of the present
  • chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7And?

    What's new about this? All of those feature are available for installation in many distros.
  • sdubois92, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1cool, i guess.
  • dalkor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I love it. We are slowly deploying FC5 over all our desktops. It's just about ready for primetime. Heck even the driver support is better than XP. I installed it on a new Dell and it actual had built in drivers for everything included with the system. w00t
  • dainbramage559, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3This isnt exactly news. I've been running with the same stuff on my Ubuntu Dapper installation for several months now.
    • bogaboga, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2This isnt exactly news. I've been running with the same stuff on my Ubuntu Dapper installation for several months now.
      Well for me, I have never seen that "Linux Inside" thingie. I was excited.
    • Phocion55, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Well aren't you special?

      * slow clap for dainbramage559 *
  • Gatesophile, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2dugg for mention of one of the best X-Files episodes ever.
  • mezoko, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7I don't burry many stories, but this is just lame!
    Just search XGL I'm sure you'll get 10+ videos!
  • shawnz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3haven't seen one of these before!
  • Jammerdelray, on 10/12/2007, -22/+2looks nice....Linux still has a long ways to go....they gotta agree on 1 standard not 50 different distributions.
    • spengy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Part of the goodness of linux is that you can do whatever you want with it. If I was stuck running Fedora instead of Gentoo, I would not be a happy camper. Likewise I'm sure the Fedora users would not be happy with Gentoo.
    • PirateFSM, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12I never understood this arguement. What's wrong with choice?
    • kettlechips, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1it's a side-effect of the GPL
    • OmegaNine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5There is. They all run the linux kernel, and they almost all run KDE or GNOME.
  • meels, on 10/12/2007, -12/+0just tried it, it suck just stupid eyecandy
  • motang, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Now I know how to use a dual core system efficiently! ;-)
  • u16085, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4These videos are getting really old, we get the point.. xgl is the *****
  • daldredge, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Looks just like my XGL desktop - well mine doesn't randomly corrupt the screens on the desktop nor does it lag like that.

    Needs a lot of work.
    • illicium, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6That's MPEG compression's fault, not XGL's.
    • daldredge, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1The corruption I am talking about isn't the MPEG artifacts that almost all youtube videos have, I am talking about the corruption that is localized on a few of the individual windows.

      I had the exact same corruption about 3-4 weeks ago but an update to XGL/compiz fixed it.
  • akinder, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Wow, shaking windows and raindrop effects on the desktop, that's going to boost productivity 1000x :P
    • ravenofwinter, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3I agree, it's more a waste than anything else.

      It's not even pretty.

    • TheSpook, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Agreed. All I saw was a massive resource hog. Where do I sign up!
    • defectDS, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5True. I like apple's quartz animations better. They are both nice and to-the-point. These are just excessive and give major headaches. Could you imagine working with those on a huge 30"!? @_@
  • ungamedplayer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Its not X G L

    Its (sing it with me! )

    A I G L X

    This is showing that compiz works on aiglx.
    • krizhere, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2bury me
    • Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2OK...now show me how AIGLX works with a real window manager instead of compiz, the proof-of-concept gee-whiz-lookit-me window manager. Seriously, compiz is not suitable for regular use, those wobbly windows in particular are a great example of eye candy that works directly against utility.
    • Slated, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2No, that is definately XGL.

      This is the package I installed:
      xorg-x11-server-Xgl-0.0.1-0.3cvs.i386.rpm
  • Kruncher, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Enough of the spinning cube already...once...maybe twice is enough.
  • ninxmz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2This video isn't as good as the others that have been posted. One of the best ones would have to be the one running on Ubuntu with the Machinae Supremacy song.

    I have the XGL/Compiz combo running on my FC5 box, it was easy to set up and it runs perfectly on a P4 2.4GHz processor and a nvidia FX 5700LE graphics card.
    It does have a few glitches but for the most part it's rather nice to use.

    The installation instructions I used are at http://fedoraxgl.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=Installation_en
  • avatarpalin, on 10/12/2007, -11/+5Hey at least he demonstrates that it works...

    ... months behind Ubuntu...
    • Phocion55, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"... months behind Ubuntu..."

      Uh....are you serious? You're making it seem like the Ubuntu dev team created XGL....when in fact it was Novell (you know....the guys that do the whole SuSE thing).

      Sorry to wake you from your Ubuntu wet dream, but nearly every Linux distro has the means to implement XGL. Ubuntu has nothing "special". It wasn't even close to being the first distro to be demoed with XGL. You're clearly oblivious to anything non-Ubuntu......which is certainly a popular trend with Ubuntu fanboys.
    • Agret, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The first distro to make it accessible was Gentoo. They released an XGL LiveCD which let you just boot off it and play with XGL. It's cool.
    • lnxaddct, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Here are videos of Fedora with the wobbly windows effects and some other stuff from March of 2005. http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/xshots .This is long before XGL, or anything else was released. Fedora/Red Hat have been programming this stuff for a while now and have a lot of other interesting gui ideas, including "procedural" themes (essentially every button, every widget, etc... follows a theme, but is unique, yet nice looking and usable). All of this, you'll find mentioned on that page. Fedora and Red Hat do a lot of coding for the community, and release very important things like the Fedora Directory Server. Don't underestimate their importance, especially considering that the majority of what Ubuntu does is simply repackage code, large portions of which have been coded by Fedora developers.
  • Goosemaster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10All I will say is having to practically perform brain surgery on a good, working, reliable, linux machine just for raindrops and the cude dealy ain't worth it.


    It just ain't
    • ungamedplayer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Hey,

      Just to let you know , you still have a choice on what you want for your desktop. You, the end user gets a choice of what they want to use.

      Metacity will still be around for some time to come, so your oldschool desktop will still live.

      Even fvwm is still alive.
    • Agret, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Except that it's not brain surgery, there are like 10 steps to getting it working in Ubuntu
    • lnxaddct, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Umm... under Fedora it is 4 steps. Install 2 packages, run "gdmsetup", then run "gdm-restart".
    • Prospero424, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Install Automatix Bleeder. Click "XGL/Compiz". Click "OK".
  • Undefined, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3What was that expanding taskbar thing at the top of the desktop? That looked kinda cool. SkyOS has something like that. Anyone know what that is?
    • acevoncash, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2useless?
    • Slated, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0That's just the standard Gnome panel with the "expand" pref switched off.
  • jacks0n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Yet another XGL/compiz video. The interesting thing, I've seen many comments about these videos on you tube. And a signifigant amount of people think this is some extension to MS windows, or the 'next-gen' OS for windows. The people who think they're 'geeks' think it's an experimental aero.

    Interesting to see that so many people don't even know another OS exists.
  • acevoncash, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2look, its os x!

  • briang, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1this reminds me of those bad Tekken 3 combo videos
  • Spaz007, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Linux Yes, Fedora not so much....
  • vondur, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1That video make me go into a seizure. I got better....
  • Seumas, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Desktop of the future . . . from Red Hat? Erm. Sure, whatever.

    Really, when I consider what distro to use (every couple of years, I re-evaluate to see if Debian is still my favorite cookie), Red Hat/Fedora is never even a consideration. Not even a blip on the radar. Yes, they've done a lot for linux in general over the last decade. And yes, they're a decent choice for the enterprise, I suppose.

    But really . . . with all the other great flavors for general servers and desktops... the schizophrenic Red Hat / Fedora is the least interesting option to me.
    • Shadowman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3All the other "great flavors" wouldn't exist if not for Red Hat.
    • Phocion55, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Have you even TRIED Fedora Core 5 yet?

      If not, I'll just add this to my list of "I've never tried it yet but it sucks anyway" buried comments.
  • Seumas, on 10/12/2007, -5/+71999 Is The Year Of Linux On The Desktop!
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    • pantuky, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I hear yah! That's my line too. However, the Mac Cultists are even worse
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  • oldman, on 10/12/2007, -4/+52005 is the year of Vista!
    2006 is the year of Vista
    2007 is the.... you get it now. Anyone else sick of ribbons and Aero?
    Just sayin' complaining is easy!
  • chrisutley, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Get a Mac, they have been doing this for a couple years. Best thing is you don't have to know X from /etc from su, it just works.
    • Kelmon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Depends on your needs, I guess. I have a Mac but will still be installing Linux onto it (under Parallels, mind, so no fancy 3D). As far as I can see it, Linux is growing in importance, particularly within the enterprise, so understanding it would probably be helpful in future employment. There's definite benefits in running a Mac since you can at least install practically all major x86 operating systems on it and effectively "have your cake and eat it". However, it's no doubt not for everyone, particularly if you are on a budget, and if you only need Linux then there's not a whole lot of point. That said, if you're simply looking for overall prettiness then the OS X Quartz effects, as best as I can see, have a better implementation at the moment.
    • pantuky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I supposed you are delighted to here that 1.8% of the global computer users have seen it your way.

      "Don't have to know X from /etc"

      This reminds me of what I hate most about the entire Mac community: Ignorance is a mark of excellence in the Mac world. I had an associate at work a few years back (they canned the moron because he wouldn't quit campaigning for the Mac during company time) who used to say "I'm sure glad I don't have to know anything about computers! I have a Mac!" Then he would laugh right in my face.

      He was boasting of his ignorance? Yep, yes indeed he was.
  • ReiToei, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
  • Melio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1just cause this isnt a ubuntu post, doesnt make it non-diggable. you guys are ubuntu fanboys and you really need to realize there's more then 1 distro out there.

    GOD you people make me sick .. (not really. but it's funny to troll as a fedora fanboy)



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