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- loconet, on 01/10/2009, -4/+55I wish there were articles like this about Windows 7 and not just "oh! pretty new taskbar" to understand what else MS is up to other than making things shiny.
- cmost, on 01/10/2009, -3/+40Maybe if Windows 7's kernel and other internal aspects were open, like they are with Linux then such juicy tidbits would emerge. Unfortunately when you're dealing with a closed, proprietary for-profit monolith like Microsoft, all you get is what's on the surface. In this case its a shiny new taskbar that bears a striking resemblance to something the KDE desktop has had for years.
- balaknair, on 01/09/2009, -0/+33Nice article.
I've been curious about ext4 and GEM for a while now. I've tried ZFS, but the Linux implementation is still too much of an unknown factor and just a tiny bit scary to me(ie, I'm not ready to trust all my important data to ZFS). So I'm sticking with ext3 till Ubuntu comes out with 2.6.28+ and ext4(maybe Ubuntu 9.10?).
As for GEM, now that AMD has open sourced the ATI drivers, maybe I'll consider ATI for my next PC(I already like the lower power consumption for the ATI cards, but their buggy Linux drivers render them useless for me).
Love the way Linux is improving so rapidly. It just keeps getting faster and more stable, and more and more problem areas(like wifi) are eliminated with each release. - javaroast, on 01/10/2009, -0/+22Yeah because KDE 4 did not exist before the release date. It just magically came out that day.
- GarrettGrimsley, on 01/10/2009, -2/+18Check for yourself.
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=v ... - fluoro, on 01/10/2009, -0/+12We know that it starts up faster, but I don't know that Microsoft ever gave specific details of what they did to make it start faster. How can a journalist write about that if the details are hidden?
So yeah, it has something to do with the openness of the OS. - inactive, on 01/10/2009, -5/+17Cool great features. I love linux. I own Vista but prefer KDE3 based OpenSuse 11.1
Hey it looks like Windows 7 is copying KDE4. - dizam, on 01/10/2009, -1/+12I would love to be able to keep up with the improvements on the kernel… Unfortunately, I got so much to catch up that it would not be practical for me.
The kernel developers are working hard and allowing people to use their work for free. That’s the essence, and for that, we are all grateful. - jman82s, on 01/10/2009, -1/+11Actually, I believe that would be 1,000 x 1,024 terabytes ^_^
- dizam, on 01/10/2009, -2/+11"640K ought to be enough for anybody"
- ethana2, on 01/10/2009, -0/+9As of 8.10, the biggest hurdle shifted from hardware support to software support.
...which is why 9.04 includes WINE in main.. - Zaeboes, on 01/10/2009, -0/+8Hurray for GEM. My laptop's integrated graphics is fairly strong- as proved by the way it flies through 3d games and HD video in windows -but in linux it struggles with things like 3d chess and DVD-quality video playback. This is definitely the killer addition.
- balaknair, on 01/10/2009, -0/+8Yep, wifi in Linux is still unwieldy, but compared to where it was just one year back, it's seen huge improvements. Now that chipset makers like Atheros have released Linux drivers of their own under GPL, things ought to get better even quicker. This is the reason I'm sticking with Atheros and Intel wifi chipsets. The reverse engineered Broadcom 43xx chipset drivers have worked fine on Ubuntu 8.04 that I've installed on laptops for friends and family(better than XP on a Lenovo I installed as dual-boot), but as long as Broadcom doesn't release GPL-ed drivers for Linux(or at least release the specs so that the FOSS community can write their own drivers without having to reverse engineer them), I'm not spending money on Broadcom hardware.
- mickstephenson, on 01/10/2009, -0/+8@HM, To my understanding ZFS has licensing issues which mean it will never be implemented in the kernel (it will be implemented through FUSE though). BtrFS aims to be the solution for linux.
- tk0680, on 01/10/2009, -0/+7How on earth do you expect applications to improve if the layer they sit on (the OS) doesn't improve a step or two ahead?
Edit: worth pointing out that the kernel developers don't create everything Linux - yell at the people who develop OOo or GIMP if you're upset with those projects' progress - the kernel guys have nothing to do with it. - kriukov, on 01/11/2009, -1/+8You don't own Vista (see EULA). Actually, Vista owned you big time if you paid for it.
- Nephersir7, on 01/11/2009, -0/+7i had more out of the box drivers in linux than windows
- czeman, on 01/10/2009, -0/+6So was reading your useless comment.
- pascalpotvin, on 01/10/2009, -0/+6With GEM being merged in MAIN, we'll get DRI2 running on most of the cards in a short time. That's a killer feature.
- inactive, on 01/10/2009, -3/+9The biggest hurdle to linux adoption is lack of drivers. So more drivers is always a good thing.
- balaknair, on 01/10/2009, -0/+6"ATI's drivers for Linux are about the best I've seen. They consistently give me less problems than Nvidia's ever did. Mad props to ATI or banging out some great drivers for leenOOx. My 4830 is rockin under Kubuntu."
That's news to me. I've never been able to get ATI graphics to work without some serious tweaking(having to install in Safe graphics mode and xorg.conf editing to get it to display higher resolutions and refresh rates).
Hmmm, I certainly hope so. I like the ATI hardware, but it's their drivers that get my goat. - RyeBrye, on 01/11/2009, -0/+52.6.28 also includes proper SPDIF support for the ASUS P5Q-Deluxe. Which makes me happy because it means I don't have to custom-compile my kernel with the patches in it any more.
- Wargasmic, on 01/10/2009, -1/+6I agree, especially since the beta is out. We should know if it's crap or not by now but I have yet to read it.
- badenglishihave, on 01/10/2009, -0/+5http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte
- Kingoftherings, on 01/10/2009, -0/+5Linux has great driver support. The only driver I actually need to install is the proprietary Nvidia driver. I don't even have to install it, I could use an open source one that comes with Xorg.
- balaknair, on 01/10/2009, -0/+5"natively supported and implemented in the core"
As mickstephenson said, I doubt if it will ever be integrated into the Linux kernel. GPL and CDDL(which is what ZFS is released under) aren't compatible.
Running it under FUSE= lowered performance.
That's why I'll probably give it a miss, even though feature for feature it's probably the best FS out there today.
Does anyone have any links for ZFS v/s EXT4 head to head comparisons?
Just curious. - mikelieman, on 01/10/2009, -0/+4***** Broadcom.
THANKS FOR NOTHING *****! - orky7, on 01/10/2009, -0/+4only interested in 2 good features 1)GEM 2)staging drivers or something like that,,,, Gem is the coolest part.......
- srg13, on 01/11/2009, -0/+4Are you talking about Mustard911? He doesn't sound confused at all - he's obviously talking about Windows 7's desktop environment having features that look incredibly similar to KDE4...
- rblancarte, on 01/11/2009, -0/+4It can generate more diggs and comments than any other prior version of Linux?
- HonoredMule, on 01/10/2009, -0/+4Those licensing issues will eventually go away...just not before Sun establishes OpenSolaris as a popular choice for servers alongside Linux and communities start clamoring for wider interoperability. In my opinion, FUSE can never support a /proper/ ZFS implementation and I'll never be able to trust that kind of abstraction layer to handle drive arrays without breaking features or corrupting data under stress--let alone perform optimally.
- rexykik, on 01/10/2009, -1/+5Kismet?
- pHr34kY, on 01/12/2009, -0/+4I can remember when compiz was under heavy (primary) development. Digg's front page was all like "Compiz adds swimming dolphins to your desktop background"!
- clickwir, on 01/10/2009, -1/+5Try again. Try Ubuntu latest version. For the past 3 versions of K/Ubuntu, wireless has worked on my 2 (very different) laptops right out of the box. I was connected to wifi before I even knew it. For me, it's been flawless.
I just wish Knetworkmanager was a couple revisions ahead by now, it's lacking some features. But it works, it gets the basic job done. - xspinkickx, on 01/11/2009, -0/+3The nice thing about about ext4 is its forwards and backwards compatible so its as simple as mounting your ext2/3 partitions as an ext4, no formatting needed what so ever.
If you need to, you can go backwards as long as you do not use ext4's extents (not enabled by default) and you can remount as ext3. - HonoredMule, on 01/10/2009, -0/+3ZFS is awesome and really earned my confidence with its ease of use and reliability in Nexenta (OpenSolaris based). But until it's natively supported and implemented in the core just like with Solaris, that experience does not apply to Linux. I do look forward to it reaching that point though, because I've come up against plenty of other limitations in Solaris that have held me back from integrating my storage server with other services.
- ricopicouk, on 01/11/2009, -0/+3Gates was talking about system RAM, not storage space.
- inactive, on 01/10/2009, -0/+3Ext2/3 have not been good to me unfortunately. I know many swear by them and their supposed benefits, but I've had 2 major instances of data lost in the past 2 years from them.
My raid 5 array was fsck'd after an install and for some reason half of my directory tree vanished. Isn't fsck supposed to prevent this? If ext4 has more protective measures I'm all on it. - RyeBrye, on 01/11/2009, -0/+3Yeah, I suppose ATI drivers would work great if you don't care about them actually doing anything worthwhile.
Nvidia's VDPAU implementation is the most significant thing to hit Linux video drivers since... well... probably ever. Going from 90% CPU usage to 3% CPU useage for H264 playback is pretty damn significant - and enabling a 2.8 Ghz P4 to play H264 with GPU acceleration better than a 2.8Ghz i7 is also pretty damn significant...
In due time, all of ATI's hot air about their drivers MAY materialize into something... but decent video cards can be had for less than $50 - so why torture yourself on a poorly supported card "hoping" that the driver will work better in the next release when you can just buy an Nvidia card and have it work properly now? - Frayed_Knot, on 01/11/2009, -0/+3Gem is truly outrageous.
Truly truly truly outrageous. - bubarda, on 01/11/2009, -0/+3This helped me get rid of the last bit of windows by getting rid of the NDISWrapper. Ath5k finaly works for the AR242x chipset.
- srg13, on 01/11/2009, -0/+3Yeah right - Windows's filesystem (NTFS) is pretty shocking even when compared to the older EXT3, and the new Linux kernel is coming out with a whole new version of it! HFS+ (Mac OS X) isn't that good either, but they might move to zfs in the future, which is pretty awesome...
- tk0680, on 01/10/2009, -1/+4Because someone WILL end up saying it anyway: all they're doing is making things shiny.
- inactive, on 01/10/2009, -0/+3Wireless is a big pain in the balls if your chipset has wonky support. You end up having to get drivers from source / bizarre patches etc. Broadcom drivers come to mind, especially on the powerbook models. I love linux but i'm not going to pretend everything just "works".
- reddikilowatt, on 01/11/2009, -0/+2Agreed. I've had very few problems with my all-Intel chipset laptop, in fact, all the hardware did "just work." But sometimes my laptop and router don't seem to want to connect, and I still had to fine-tune the laptop-mode.conf file to keep my drive head from parking/unparking every few seconds (that wears it out prematurely).
- inactive, on 01/10/2009, -0/+2I have to agree, ATI drivers are still hit and miss. My AIW card required a 2 page write up on the ubuntu forums and even then it wouldn't work with flgrx or 'radeon'.
I popped in my Nvidia ti4200 and it was instantly recognized and worked flawlessly.
Video In / Video out on an Ati card? Good luck. - sjvn, on 01/11/2009, -0/+2Ext4 is really quite good., and I've found it to be more stable than ext2/3.
Steven - srg13, on 01/11/2009, -0/+2What card do you have? I have a RT2500 which works almost perfectly with no configuration - the only problem is that it reports the speed as 1Mb/s so I had to add a startup command that was something like 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M'. It's gone from not working at all to almost flawless in about two or three kernel versions, so I bet that it's already fixed and will not need the additional command once I upgrade to the next version of Ubuntu.
- CATSCEO2, on 01/11/2009, -0/+2Ext4 is coming in 9.04
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