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- Muncher, on 10/11/2007, -5/+91@salomejones
The source is open; go for it, buddy. - Marvelboy, on 10/11/2007, -3/+82I'm pretty much a linux n00b and I still find this impressive.
- DigitalJester, on 10/11/2007, -4/+80wow. they've been busy :-o
- citrusfizz, on 10/11/2007, -3/+74@brivapor
umm WTF? - guardsman85, on 10/11/2007, -0/+47http://www.puppylinux.org/
- rotten777, on 10/11/2007, -18/+66Or they could stick to the same naming and numbering convention that has been in place for years and years and years...
- bradleyland, on 10/11/2007, -8/+46Wait, is it your ***** flaps asking this time, or just you?
- kob0724, on 10/11/2007, -4/+35Exciting. I'm interested to see the wireless changes. For me, they're sorely needed.
- geminitojanus, on 10/11/2007, -8/+37Except it really hasn't been in place for years and years; development changes used to go into 2.odd.xx kernels, while stable kernels were called 2.even.xx. Now, all changes are built into the 2.6.xx kernel line, and all kinds of huge, major changes happen between two minor revision numbers (like in this case, a complete change of the ATA, Wifi, and Firewire stacks).
- msgyrd, on 10/11/2007, -2/+27I'm fairly certain if you're running a massive oracle server, you're quite capable of compiling a kernel yourself to reduce it's footprint. On top of that, if you have a production server on that scale, you aren't likely to be upgrading to the latest kernel releases as they come out.
- forteller, on 10/11/2007, -11/+35Why are you digging him/her down? This is in fact a huge problem for many people, and some just can't live with a OS that doesn't let them use WiFi. I'm a Ubuntu user myself, and I haven't gotten my WiFi card to work. Thankfully I don't really need it much, but if I was dependant on it I might have switched back to Win XP myself.
- elnerdo, on 10/11/2007, -2/+24I was hoping for puppies.
Linux really disappointed me this time. - secion8, on 10/11/2007, -7/+28@citrusfizz
LMFAO, is he okay? - DrBob, on 10/11/2007, -5/+24@geminitojanus:
Versioning is based on API changes, rather than the amount of code changes. Obviously, there have been no API changes (aside from additions) for this release. - crazybrit, on 10/11/2007, -0/+19You're an idiot.
- dmurray14, on 10/11/2007, -11/+29^ that was ***** awesome
- K4P741NxKRUNCH, on 10/11/2007, -6/+24Most linux n00bs would look at this and say..
SLUB? SLAB? SLOB?
I got some more stuff to learn I guess.. - Klowner, on 10/11/2007, -4/+22It's not the Linux dev's fault, go complain to Sun and tell them to relicense it.
CDDL != GPL - bnolsen, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17@salmonejones
Linux scales quite nicely up to 1024 processors, thanks to SGI for getting that tuned up.
At work we've been developing on a cheapo 8 cpu machine and it's smooth as butter, and keeps the cpus nicely busy. - guardsman85, on 10/11/2007, -0/+16I can't decide which thumb to push, because I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.
- JimXugle, on 10/11/2007, -9/+25'I name it, it's there' eh?
ZFS.
... - geminitojanus, on 10/11/2007, -4/+18They've been busy for quite a while; lots and lots of these changes are merges from the -mm patch tree, which has been under parallel development.
- Urzadek, on 10/11/2007, -4/+17In response to: "Reiser4? Static ABI? Support for Z8000 processors? A better mascot, like maybe a rhino or something?"
YOU DO NOT SAY THAT LINUX NEEDS A NEW MASCOT!! GRRRRR
TUX IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL CREATURE ON THE PLANET! - Dan000892, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14That's bait and switch!
- geminitojanus, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13"1. ACPI support is ***** still. "
Ever think that might be a problem with your computer and not the software on it? ACPI files stored in firmware created by Microsoft's ACPI software is so broken that it allows broken ACPI implementations to be fully functional. Furthermore, the ACPI in most computers ships with code that checks what operating system you're on (more specifically, what version of Windows) and disables functionality based on that.
Don't believe me? Dump your DSDT yourself and check that it wasn't built by Microsoft's software, and if it was, check how many errors there are. My computer shipped with 18 ACPI errors, it's amazing it worked even under Windows.
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Fix_Common_ACPI_Problems
(For the record, ACPI controls all system monitors, so if you've got a broken ACPI implementation on your hardware, no software /should/ work, Windows works because they've systematically broken the standard and know exactly *how* they've broken it). - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -48/+59I tried to switch to Ubuntu, but couldnt get the wireless to work, so I had to go back to Windows
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13brivapor, have you tried asking on the ubuntu forums? i had the same problem for a long time, today i finally sorted it out and it feels great to be using linux on the net finally :) it's worth the initial struggle. believe me.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1663 greesy pimply nerds
- DigitalJester, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11Why? When I can have a safer, usually faster, better looking OS for free?
- playerx, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10Error601 meet LVM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Volume_Manager_%28Linux%29
LVM meet Error601
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~italingua/error.JPG - enivid, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1263 topless hookers? nope... not there...
- Tyr7BE, on 10/11/2007, -5/+14That was dropped after 2.6 was in development for like 2 years. When it came out it was basically a whole new operating system. Just about most drivers had to be rewritten and it took a LONG time for all software that supposedly ran on Linux to run on Linux again.
- digitalarcanum, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10amen. I'd love to run wireless without my graphics card causing IRQ conflicts.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -11/+19Seriously. The multimedia, video driver, windows comparable software, dvd, and games issues I can live with. What keeps me going back to windows on the desktop everytime is the system level ***** that never works properly if at all with any Linux distro I use.
1. ACPI support is ***** still.
2. System level hardware monitoring (cpu, fans, video cards, etc.) is still *****.
3. Cut/Paste (don't even want to go there).
4. Wireless support
5. Consistent network management support
6. Dual monitor configurations
7. Monitor resolutions
My newest computer has both Feisty and XP dual booted and I have no problems OUT OF BOX with any of the above mentioned items on the XP load. Feisty has been sub-par on every single item listed especially ACPI and the monitor issues.
There is absolutely no way a particular distro of Linux is ready for the desktop if those items cannot easily be managed. I know I'll get buried, but I've been using various Linux distros for over 10 years now and the basic system level issues remain the same to this day. Everyone is concentrating on adding features and flash to the kernel, and never fixing the ***** that should be a no brainer to fix! The same people are also accusing Microsoft for doing the very thing that Linux is doing. More bloat and simple ***** just doesn't get fixed. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Will standby or hibernate actually work? I'd love to find ANY distro that ACPI actually works.
- rotten777, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel#Version_numbering
As you can see it has been 4 years since they have used an odd version number for the dev/unstable version of the kernel. - geminitojanus, on 10/11/2007, -4/+11*shrug* 2.6.2 worked for me immediately (first 2.6.x kernel I used), and it was a very welcome step up from Debian's ancient-going-on-antique 2.2 kernel. There were some huge driver layer changes but for most drivers you could port the old ones over in a reasonable amount of time. Then again I didn't have any fancy SCSI devices or cutting edge hardware to deal with either...
- chrismm, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8I'm not sure if my sarcasm meter is broken or not... But are you serious? LVM does all of that and does it quite well too. I've seen it run clusters of storage boxes connected via iscsi to shove out terrabytes a day.
edit: lol beaten. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Umm...yeah. Ever write a kernel module? Not all kernel modules are device drivers, and theres no reason that a filesystem can't be implemented as a loadable module---in fact, it's actually been done.
Anyone who runs linux on something other than a desktop feel like speaking up here? - perral1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Nothing in the kernel will really give the average end user a "wow" moment. The kernel is one of the few pieces of an operating system that you never really interact DIRECTLY with. It is the lowest level of the operating system; you use it through various layers of programs that run on top of it, such as X and KDE/Gnome/Etc, which together provide your basic desktop GUI.
That said, if you were an end user that was missing, say, an important wireless driver, for you it could certainly be a sort of "wow" moment: your wireless now works!
-Perral1 - sasha0, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7@salomejones:
Could it be that people who run a massive oracle or TSM install under linux know that they can compile small kernel themselves without firewire stack, wireless networking infrastructure and what not. - wattersm, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8There is, it's called LVM.
- Cramit, on 10/11/2007, -9/+15What ever happened to even numbered kernels being stable and having and odd numbered kernels for development? It seems as though there should be a 2.7 kernel for major changes such a these.
- tmalloy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7@imjustabill:
You're right, they shouldn't have to release drivers for every operating system. All they need to do is release information about the hardware that would allow someone to develop an open source driver. - guardsman85, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Yeah, they would definitely make things run faster!
- cynicist, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Posts like yours aggravate me. You are claiming that windows xp doesn't suffer the same issues on boot up? Last time I checked it didnt come with monitoring software, booted up at 800x600 with the most revolting scrolling I've ever seen, and supported ZERO wireless hardware by default.
All of this stuff either already works (glipper/klipper anyone?) or is being fixed with the next release of xorg. ACPI support is easily explained,
"The fact that ACPI was designed by a group of monkeys high on LSD, and is some of the worst designs in the industry obviously makes running it at _any_ point pretty damn ugly." - Linus Torvalds - Zuggy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Nope, if they aren't keeping up on new technology then they are developing new technology. It will never stop. Even after Linus goes to the great linux cluster in the sky someone else will pick up where he left off.
- starbane, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Bunnies made of cheese?
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