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- bryxal, on 08/19/2008, -3/+34Linus Torvalds: It's Not Easy Being the Major Linux Coder
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Linus Torvalds: It's Not Easy Being A Major Linux Coder
Linus is not as much a major Coder anymore. He runs the project more than codes. - Nouman6, on 08/19/2008, -5/+29I really look forward to the day when Its not just 'For PC and MAC' and its 'For PC, MAC, and Linux'
- spdorsey, on 08/18/2008, -12/+30Please tell this to the software developers and the User Interface designers. We need better organization in development circles.
I want to switch to Linux BADLY. But the lack of mainstream software, ease of use and maintenance, and UI standards keep me from jumping. There needs to be a common thread for everyone to follow so that the end users are not left in the cold when it comes to standards and QC. - mattearle, on 08/19/2008, -2/+16Though your title is more exciting and would make a more interesting story, that is not what the article is about and what Linus is saying. He is not talking about himself, he is talking about any individual or group who would like to contribute. There is a difference and your title is a bit deceptive.
- CATSCEO2, on 08/19/2008, -3/+14I'll get it out of the way: "Pimpin' ain't easy"
- gurellia53, on 08/19/2008, -1/+10I really look for the day when people quit using the term PC and Windows interchangeably. =P
(nothing against you, Nouman6) - rowjimmy, on 08/19/2008, -2/+9being "easy" isn't the goal of the vast majority of *nix distros - being solid, secure, and good for development is.
and, what you think is "easy" or "intuitive" on a windows box isn't necessarily so - it's just that you (meaning people in general) are used to it. it's a lot less complicated to install, upgrade, and manage software from a centralised repository system than it is to get individual programs from individual providers, install them yourself, manage them yourself, etc - however, the latter is what people are used to. - inactive, on 08/19/2008, -1/+8Richard Stallman's beard got tangled into his computer fan. Someone should go help him out.
- durand101, on 08/19/2008, -0/+5I've survived without windows or its many single platform apps for nearly four years. (that includes standard teen stuff - media, games, office, web browsing, etc) It's not exactly difficult, you just need to be a bit adventurous and look for native alternatives to your programs.
- EmperorPsiblade, on 08/19/2008, -1/+6You put it much too nicely.
MakiMaki purposely modified it to make Linus seem like an ***** to get the *nix crowd to riot. (and get more diggs/views) - Vich, on 08/19/2008, -0/+5yes it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Access_Control
- Mrdudeperson, on 08/19/2008, -0/+5If that was a joke it wasn't funny. Man that was just...
- PolarZoe, on 08/19/2008, -1/+6I see more and more technical stories coming to the frontpage, are diggers finally growing tired of Break video's or is the Recommendation Engine working?
Anyway, good story, I see how it will be difficult to become a 'big-patch' writer. - Mrdudeperson, on 08/19/2008, -3/+8The 200+ people that have dugg this so far. Please go back under your rock now.
- Mrdudeperson, on 08/19/2008, -7/+11Linux=bacon=awesome
- MavRevMatt, on 08/19/2008, -0/+4I'd rather look forward to the day when there's no "For anything" and there are just computers, the OS is irrelevant.
- atdigg, on 08/18/2008, -8/+12I don't think you want to use Linux, read this http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
If it were after people who want Linux to do this or that before they switch, Linux would be really crappy... leave us the multiple choices and multiple desktop environments and stick with Windows or a Mac. - Paapaa, on 08/19/2008, -0/+4being != become
The title is a bit misleading as Linus talked about _becoming_ a major Linux contributor. Not about being one... - JBmtk, on 08/19/2008, -2/+6I stopped reading the article after this little snippet:
"This means that a single Linux download & upgrade will give you the newest drivers available for your machine, whereas in Windows you would have to surf to multiple sites and download all the upgrades individually. It's a very different process, but it's certainly not a bad one. But many people complain because it's not what they're used to."
--wtf? - superjamie, on 08/19/2008, -1/+5I beg to differ. Myself and many others use Linux daily for both work and play, I haven't had Windows at home for over a year now. What you probably mean is that you can't do without one Windows application.
The rest is just a learning experience, you'd experience the same thing if you suddenly bought a Mac too. - inactive, on 08/19/2008, -0/+3It's not easy being a masturbating monkey either.
- ethana2, on 08/19/2008, -0/+3yes.
win32, osx, and linux - Chris1280, on 08/19/2008, -0/+3Dont compare bacon to anything, it is better than everything. Now if you were say Linux + bacon ( wrapped ) = Awesome linux. I'd be okay. ( Listen to Octale and hordak for the refference )
- afrothunderman, on 08/19/2008, -0/+3umm... your comparing hardware(personal computer) to an operating system?
I get what your saying(although I agree with rowjimmy that it is less complicated in Linux, you don't even need the command line at all in recent distros I don't know how the console keeps being brought up again) but I still don't understand why people use Windows, an OS and PC, hardware, interchangeably. - Nouman6, on 08/19/2008, -0/+2Hey, you got a point there :)
- mikedoth, on 08/19/2008, -1/+3Join HaikuOS then, I think it's pretty well organized.
*ducks* - itsfunny, on 08/19/2008, -0/+2Euggh Linus.
- MuffinFlavored, on 08/19/2008, -1/+3Ubuntu KIND OF has it right, trying to make everything easy, "one click" solutions.
Somebody (planning all of this makes me feel like I can do it) needs to create a distribution with the latest back-end (not including anything for developing because this is geared towards the "end user").
Include support for all hardware (for EVERYONE, WiFi BUILT IN, all possible ethernet, all possible sound) and a nice little default GNOME interface, Firefox 3, an instant messaging client, a music player, and you are done. - inactive, on 08/19/2008, -0/+2You've just described Ubuntu... and many other Linux distribution. If you really wanted to make the change you would've been on Linux by now.
- bardo77n, on 08/20/2008, -0/+2It ain't easy being cheesy. - Chester Cheetah
- srg13, on 08/19/2008, -0/+2"The extensive hardware support, security functionality and good power saving capabiities (for notebooks) all make openSUSE 11 an ideal workstation OS"
All these aren't exactly distro specific... They just depend on who has the most up to date kernel and X server etc., which is basically whatever distro was released latest... - Nouman6, on 08/19/2008, -0/+2whoops. Sorry for that guys.
- chamberlanderic, on 08/19/2008, -1/+2Please give this guy a Nobel Prize before he got a nervous Breakdown
- fearphage, on 08/19/2008, -0/+1Oh so true... but somebody's gotta do it.
- Vich, on 08/19/2008, -0/+1That was just go back to /b/ on 4chan
- afrothunderman, on 08/19/2008, -0/+1Have fun downloading a distro with that many drivers.
BTW, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have support for all hardware. If you buy some card from an unknown manufacturer and a driver disk made on a CD-R, don't expect a driver in linux for it(same goes for many proprietary software-requiring hardware)
People expect Linux to have a bit too much built in when many drivers and software could be downloaded online, just like Windows. Yet I don't see too many people complain that they have to install drivers for their hardware in Windows when they upgrade or reinstall. Or that they have to download or install software like Firefox, Office, or iTunes. - Cherubim, on 08/19/2008, -2/+3GNU/Linux is great but can be real bitch to troubleshoot. XServer is always giving me grief no matter what the distro is. I also feel that Ubuntu is overrated and is not the "best" distro out there. openSUSE 11 wins my vote as the most polished and feature complete GNU/Linux distro available. The extensive hardware support, security functionality and good power saving capabiities (for notebooks) all make openSUSE 11 an ideal workstation OS. I'm using the KDE 4.04 implementation and it's very stable.
- Nosrac, on 08/20/2008, -0/+1tuché
- nossifer, on 08/19/2008, -1/+21994 called. They want their opinion back.
- inactive, on 08/19/2008, -0/+1Theo is the closest to God that some will see.
- tuxisawesome, on 08/19/2008, -0/+1You use OpenBSD?
- Reformer81, on 08/19/2008, -0/+1No, I'm pretty sure Mr. Torvalds is mislabeled.
- ethana2, on 08/19/2008, -0/+1Yes.
- inactive, on 08/19/2008, -3/+4Screw that. Maybe they should concentrate on making sure that we can do everything in linux that we can with Windows. The whole "fear of typing commands" thing is way way overblown. It is more a fear of "what I won't be able to do anymore"
- Reformer81, on 08/19/2008, -0/+1OSuX - Thank you for that! :P *spits on Linus*
- Reformer81, on 08/19/2008, -0/+0Dugg down for idiocy.
- neveroffline, on 08/19/2008, -2/+2Linus FTW. Yeah...he's the "major" coder and thousands submit patches. I think he wishes he had 1 millionth the wealth of Bill Gates in 1995. Anyways he isn't the biggest contributor to Linux in the year 2008. Moving on, Linux would be the crap it was over a decade ago without thousands of people fixing "his" code and writing drivers...etc and so on. Oh and did he just tweak source Unix code? He did. Flame suit on.
- hugolp, on 08/19/2008, -1/+1Well, one of the reason that I dont use Windows is because I wont be able to do 80% of the things I do on Linux. And that is a proven fact, not something I am saying without trying both OS just because its what I read.
And btw, on the lastest two editions of Ubuntu I didnt have to touch the terminal (aka typing comands) not once. - richirwin, on 08/19/2008, -2/+2My rock is open source. It's the bestest rock ever.
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