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- DoubtfulSalmon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Exchange Server? There is *NO* client that uses that protocol well. Not a single one.
- javip, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I'm not trying to be smart here.. but what do these clients have over say.. gmail?
I can't think of a single reason why I would want to install an app to get my email, on every machine I want my email from.
If the response is pop3 etc.. then why use email that needs pop3 when it can just be web based.
Maybe someone can provide a few advantages a client such as this has over gmail (gmail in particular because with google calendar and virtually unlimited storage, it is far superior to all other web based email) - lparry, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Kontact All the way! What's Outlook and Thunderbird anyway? Joke - they are insignificant compared to Kontact in terms of emails, and personal management.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I love Thunderbird and the fact it's extendible, but when i look at Kmail.. there's not much i'd like to extend they haven't already provided for me.
Thunderbird is a great open source app, so i don't want to knock it too much, but it is a bit clunky and memory intensive, and unless you're on Windows, it doesn't have anti-virus support integration for anything.
Evolution, great functionality, but again, it's too clunky. And not to mention it's GUI is horrid.
Kontact/Kmail is the first app in this realm outside of Outlook i've ever truly enjoyed using and it makes managing this information seemless and easy. - shakin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I fell in love with KMail (didn't much care for the Kontact container because I don't use the other features). Unfortunately, my workplace switched to Exchange so now I'm using Evolution, although since I don't use those extra features I may try KMail again. Hopefully I still get meeting requests that I can manually add to a calendar.
Apps like Kontact/Kmail, Quanta, Akregator and Amorak show why KDE is a winner. The KDE API is wonderful to program with and that means there are lots of great KDE apps that integrate together beautifully. - milliams, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6For a long time I was using various parts of Kontact individually but now I'm starting to see just how nicely they work together It's really quite nice.
- gbm85, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@javip
The number one advantage? If your Internet goes down, or you're in an area without Internet access, you can still access your saved emails and your contacts/calendar. Not to mention that searching for contacts/emails/etc is much faster on a local machine that through a web interface. Many email accounts offer both POP3 and web-based access, so you can get the best of both worlds, so to speak. - GerbilSoft, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Troll. Qt runs on Windows as well as Linux, and uses the native system theme on Windows. (Qt also supports MacOS X, and uses the system theme there, too.)
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4kde wont be ported to windows. kdelibs will be ported to windows which means you might see some of these apps in windows. Trust me though, once you use KDE 4 there is no way you can go back to using that POS known as windows vista.
- moyness, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm completely in love with gmail's notifier and RSS...
I've never understood the need to open your email program every time you want to check your email, it's just.... ram gaaaah!
Gmail RSS FTW. - drizek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I have kword installed pretty much just to view word documents in konqueror.
Literally just a few hours ago I had 10 tabs open in konqueror of various pdfs and docs as well as websites that i was using to study for a test. Its pretty ***** amazing IMHO, nothing else comes close. Nautilus and windows explorer dont even support tabs let alone opening various documents of various formats in a single window. - texnofobix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4what are you smoking? qt > windows and its open source
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3that's the one thing KDE has excelled in is integration. Even though Koffice is pretty much useless and Konq is not an oh-so-great web browser, the intergration between Koffice, Konq, Kontact (and it's contained apps), is amazing.
- lengau, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I arrived here through Akregator :)
Seriously, When I was using GNOME at one point, I tried Thunderbird, Evolution - you name it! I even tried mutt at one point (not GUI enough for my daily use, though it's great for my servers!). I eventually tried Kontact (under GNOME, by the way) and loved it. Of course it has some quirks, but really, what doesn't?
Kontact and Kdevelop are probably the two biggest reasons that I now use KDE on my main desktop. - gbm85, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@javip
I'm not sure if you read the article or not, but Kontact is a Linux/UNIX application. Google Desktop does not run on these systems. I do have broadband at home, but some places I go have only dial-up, if anything. Kudos on your reliable connection though. My Internet craps out from time to time, despite living in one of the largest markets in the US... - Nebbie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@javip
I prefer using gmail as well, but when/if gmail supports IMAP, I'll probably go back to using a email client again. POP3 just doesn't cut it with that amount of email.
Kinda off topic, but I'd really like to see google put effort into PDA syncing email/contacts/calender onto Palms or Windows Mobile - Dustyb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Thats all well and good, but if I wanted to switch I've got 6 years of mail that I need to transfer over, how do I do that?
- MisterCookie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I like alot of Kontact's features, I just wish it had some improvements in the stability department. Here's hoping the KDE 4 release is rock solid.
- javip, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@gbm85
internet never goes down (I can't remember the last time my internet was down)
but, in the extreme scenario that it goes down, google desktop lets me retrieve all my emails and view them offline.
Actually I do remember one time my internet was down, and I couldn't remember my damn adsl password because it was just a random set of letters and numbers.. and I had reset my router without saving the config..
I did a search with google desktop and up popped my email from gmail.. with the password..
so that's not really an advantage at all.
Have you used gmail? searching for an email or contact is instantaneous.
I don't know, but it sounds like you're on dial up or something - copilot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've used a few of the guides online to get spamassassin and google calender syncing set up. I like the idea of carrying nothing between work and home but having access to all the information.
- Nebbie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Depends what program you are transferring from. if it is on Linux, chances are you can put your email into an mbox and kontact can read that just fine (I believe Evolution can do this, not sure about thunderbird).
The technique I have used in the past when there was no direct conversion available was to set up an IMAP server and transfer all my email there, and then transfer back into whatever program I was using. It is a little bit overkill though. - oneeyedelf1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I also arrived here through akregator, Kontact and konqueror are two of the main reasons I use Linux as my primary desktop OS. I wonder when KDE4 comes out and gets ported to windows if I will stay in linux.
- regeya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Along with some other people, I don't really want to use a different email client for different platforms, hence Thunderbird. Same reason I use Firefox, though I wouldn't if it sucked (and 2.0, though faster, is makng me have doubts.)
Same reason, in fact, I'm willing to put up with Emacs. I can run it on OS X, Linux, Windows, whatever, and while it's something of a PITA, it's the same PITA on all platforms. ;-)
As for gmail, well, call me old-fashioned, but I like having my mail on my own hard drive. If I switch ISPs, I get to keep my email. If Google gets smacked by the FTC someday and gets regulated out of business, I have my email on my hard drive. True, I could pop my gmail off the server into Thunderbird, but it sort-of defeats the purpose of gmail, doesn't it?
Offline email reading capability FTW.
Oh, right, and back to the topic: I don't use Kontact for the same reason listed above, but if not for the multi-platform issue I'd probably be using Kontact. It's amazing how the KDE team was able to take these existing pieces, and rather than do a GNOME and throw everything away to make a new and better app, bring the disparate objects together to form one nice app. Or rather, it's come to be that; in the beginning it stunk, of course, but nowadays Kontact is phenomenal. - binarysemaphore, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What if you wake up someday to find out that you have to pay gmail to access your emails ?
Or a breakdown in telephone/cable infrastructure has disabled your Internet connection and you need that one damn phone number which was emailed to you some time ago ?
Or you want ease of checking all your email accounts at one place rather than visiting each webmail site.
Or you want to use PGP with your email
These are just few advantages of using email client. - idonthack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If you don't like the theme, don't blame the widgets. Change the theme.
- h00ligan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@javip - how about privacy and no lifetime retention policy or evil google spidering?
- BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They could be if those people are running kde apps on windows, as there's going to be a push in that direction soon.
Just so you know. :) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1kmailcvt application must be installed alongwith Kontact/Kmail and it can import mail from multiple programs and file types. Outlook PSTs if you're on Windows, Mac's Mail.app, or if you're already on linux it can do a direct import from Evolution and Thunderbird. Not to mention Pegasus, Lotus Notes, etc..
I've never had a problem importing to Kmail, or backing up kmail for easy restoration. - oneeyedelf1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I am confused you say QT=uglier than windows. Are you deffining qt to be uglier than windows? Also QT runs on windows, making windows uglier than itself? ... I am confused.
I see someone above beat me too it. All I would wanna say is TROLL(tech).
Captchas suck - javaman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'll just continue being happy with M2, thank you.
- idonthack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@moyness
Kontact and a few other email clients are designed to minimize to the system tray and check your email periodically, notifying you when you recieve a new message. I'm not sure how Gmail does thier RSS feed but this is probably more secure. - inactive, on 09/23/2008, -0/+1mortgage, mortgage rates, refinance, real estate, realty, second mortgage
http://tophomemortgageloan.com - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Using a client for web mail has many features. First off, swtiching between mail view, compose, sent mail, spam folders, etc.. on web mail, even on a really fast connection, takes time. You can switch back and forth with great easy using a 3rd party client.
It also ensures redundancy. Ever delete an e-mail you shouldn't have? With third party clients you can set it so it doesn't delete off the pop server once you sent it, thereby ensuring that you'll always have a backup that's accessible anywhere.
I love gmail, but once you start getting thousands of messages the load time on the pages are just far too slow, same goes for hotmail, yahoo mail and other web mail.
also, you get to apply a 2nd round of spam filtering. Gmail's spam filters are amazing for web mail. Probably the best out there. But it doesn't catch everything, both Kmail's bogofilter (or with spamassassin) or Thunderbird's spam filtering ability coupled with gmail helps sort through all the crap.
thirdly, using a 3rd party client allows management of multiple e-mail accounts much easier than logging out of a webmail, then logging back in with another name. Or logging into another site altogether.
People tend to think webmail can be an answer all and don't see the point of clients, but clients can be extremely helpful. - BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Multipart answer here - firstly I can't answer specifically for Microsoft apps, secondly I (and colleagues) get Project management -> Kontact -> Mobile device functionality using native apps now and it works perfectly.
- dkoon, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3What the HELL is wrong with you fanboys!??!?! Putting "Outlook Beware" at the end just for the cool factor to make Kontact much more attractive!? You really think people suddenly find Kontact is soooooo good, that they need to switch from Windows to Linux just for that?
Digg is turning into FOX News of the Internet... lol, Jeez! - vixenk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I loved Kontact while I was using it, but just had one beef with it...
The Korganizer(?) icon starting with Kontact. Annoyed the living crap out of me. There was no way to turn off the icon or stop the application from starting with Kontact, and as far as I know I didn't have any use for it.
Now I'm quite happy with Evolution. :) - playerslight, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Can you elaborate on those "native apps"? I'd like to check them out...
- DoubtfulSalmon, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Kthis, Kthat it's Kall a bit over the Ktop I Kthink!
Thunderbird/Firefox still wins for me, because I'm forced to use both Windows and Linux. At least I can use common tools (and common profiles) across multiple platforms. Would it kill these people to invite someone to make a windows port of some of this Kstuff ? - playerslight, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Am I the only one who task sync's with Project?
Project -> Outlook -> Pocket PC
I'd love to migrate, but I'm not sure of the integration (and learning curve). Would it be possible to perform the same sort of sync in Linux? Is there even software that is compatible with Project? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Outlook beware? Are you saying Outlook might get pushed off KDE users desktops in favour of Kontact?
Think about these statements before you use them in a headline. - AhronZombi, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4qt=uglyer than windows
- Anpheus, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1Exchange Server.
Show me another client that uses that protocol, well.
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