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- neko, on 01/24/2008, -2/+86Aww. I just read here: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Projects/K ...
"By design, KDE-windows does not provide the full-blown KDE desktop, thus no KWin composite manager, KDE-specific "start" menus, Plasma desktop, etc."
Now I'm less enthusiastic. - T8erT0T, on 01/24/2008, -4/+77I''m sold just by Amarok alone.
- puelocesar, on 01/24/2008, -7/+51for that I think we prefer you to use Linux ;)
- Zippo, on 01/24/2008, -1/+38open source + cross-platform = win-win for everyone.
- dualscreenman, on 01/24/2008, -0/+35No KWin, just applications. :(
That being said, "just applications" still rocks - troydoogle7, on 01/24/2008, -2/+28Aww pity.. would love kwin for windows... explorer.exe is just so *****....
- grumpyrain, on 01/24/2008, -2/+22Explorer is just a shell. It is a trivial to replace. Most windows based kiosk devices do this.
Disclaimer: Don't blame me if you can't figure out how to open task manager to get to regedit to reverse this process.
Open Regedit and navigate to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE SOFTWARE Microsoft Windows NT CurrentVersion Winlogon
Edit string 'Shell' and change it to notepad.exe
Reboot (actually log off and back in is probably enough). - Spuy767, on 01/24/2008, -0/+20I would imagine the OS X port was ridiculously easy to do.
- erictheturtle, on 01/24/2008, -0/+19The rest of the article is quite pleasant but this line...wow...
"KDE's build system was previously based on Autotools, an intractably arcane and grotesquely anachronistic cesspool of ineffable complexity that makes even seasoned programmers nauseous." - OldSchoolNinja, on 01/24/2008, -2/+20Yep, Amarok was the first thing that came to mind when I saw the headline.
- StanStutter, on 01/24/2008, -0/+17AS far as I know, you can already get certain GTK based apps on windows. pidgin and GIMP come to mind. There's probably more, but I haven't checked.
- RaiKitsune, on 01/24/2008, -3/+19Amarok is the only thing that I would expect Windows users to want.
- MasteRR, on 01/24/2008, -1/+17Mmmm. K3B on windows would be nice. Then I could ditch stupid CD Burner XP and Nero Express.
- Cubedude04, on 01/24/2008, -2/+17It needs to have Apple, Ron Paul, Tasers, [BREAKING] or [PICS] in the title
Or be written by Yahtzee - dualscreenman, on 01/24/2008, -2/+1593 Diggs in 9 hours with 22 comments... what more does it take to reach the front page? O_o
- Senn, on 01/24/2008, -0/+12Which begs the question... why is it still called "Windows"?
- serend, on 01/24/2008, -0/+11looks like you have more to worry about than a replacement for explorer.exe
- ToadLeg, on 01/24/2008, -1/+12Sorry, no KDE desktop environment/window manager for Windows yet - but getting Linux programs to run on Windows is a huge step in that direction.
- fremeer, on 01/24/2008, -0/+10not really, there are a lot of different programs that will be useful to windows users. k3b is one that comes to mind. But yeah basically im waiting for amarok so i can ditch winamp(although foobar is pretty cool).
- stevensj2, on 01/24/2008, -1/+11It's being ported to Windows and Mac; systems whose use implies they were already purchased. Switching to KDE isn't going to save any Mac or Windows users a dime.
Unfortunately. - grumpyrain, on 01/24/2008, -1/+11When you log in, it loads notepad in fullscreen without a taskbar / startmenu etc. When you close notepad, it logs you off.
- MasteRR, on 01/24/2008, -1/+11It's more about the KDE applications than it is about the UI.
- Bossman1086, on 01/24/2008, -1/+10It'll be nice to use Amarok finally in Windows, but I do want the Desktop Environment, too. Hopefully that will be ported after this project is done.
- superyounan1, on 01/24/2008, -1/+10the point is bringing the KDE and QT to new platforms and make them more popular. Imagine if windows and mac users suddenly discovered they love Amarock or some other application, or more developers start to program using their APIs, then transition to different operating systems (preferably in the direction towards open source systems) becomes less frightening.
I doubt I would have crossed to linux if Firefox wasn't cross platform - same concept with cross platform KDE, but in a much more ambitious and robust way - Jugalator, on 01/24/2008, -0/+9I like Quanta Plus as a free web designer tool as well. As for free open source tools of that kind on Windows otherwise, well, we have maybe Nvu, but it's not even on the same magnitude.
- regeya, on 01/24/2008, -0/+9Very poor quality in today's trolling; very poor, indeed.
- jared9985, on 01/24/2008, -1/+10Amarok for OSX and Win? I think I just wet my pants.
So much better than iTunes. - jtjdt, on 01/24/2008, -6/+15Windows I can understand, but OS X?
- technoredneck, on 01/24/2008, -0/+8I think the article on Heath Ledger's death (RIP, dude, you were definitely one of my favorite actors) is ***** with the Digg algorithm. That article has gotten nearly 20,000 diggs in barely two days, which is highly unusual.
That probably significantly increased the number of diggs required for something to reach the front page, assuming that threshold is somehow based on the average number of diggs each front page article has.
I've noticed that a lot fewer digg articles have showed up in my RSS reader since the Ledger article, so I think that's probably it. - JonForTheWin, on 01/24/2008, -2/+9If there's a system that needs konqueror desperately it's windows.
- inactive, on 01/24/2008, -2/+9In other news, Police was called to Microsoft headquarters where they caught Steve Ballmer throwing more chairs at board members
- puerrom, on 01/24/2008, -0/+6Yeah totally, right like every other mac user, i prefer a ***** application that loks good instead of using a great software that looks average...
- reazal, on 01/24/2008, -2/+8Actually what I really hope is for the Linux developers not bother too much to make the Linux programs to run in Windows. Why don't we just focus to make the Linux apps better, stable and more visually appealing to users?
- kazamx, on 01/24/2008, -6/+12I just want Amarok on my XP box.
- mvent2, on 01/24/2008, -1/+6Actually its more. If the programs you use the most also work on Linux then why bother spending lots of money on new Windows versions when you can get Linux for free?
- patm1987, on 01/24/2008, -0/+5It's only really a loss for Microsoft if people begin to think, "hey, I like amarok, konversation, etc... and will start using [insert non-windows operating system here] instead of Windows." The more likely scenario is, "finally, I can use Amarok on my system without rebooting into Linux or running vmware."
If it were more along the lines of apple, "Hey, here's iTunes and it works with the iPod. Get a mac, and you also get iLife and friends working just as well together," then Microsoft has something to worry about, but that attitude is also less beneficial to the user.
Unless KOffice + Kontact becomes a reliable and effective replacement of MSOffice, Microsoft isn't losing any money (the products being replaced ship with windows anyway). - alterImperson, on 01/24/2008, -1/+6That line was amazing. Reminds me of something Douglas Adams might have wrote.
- puzzud, on 01/24/2008, -0/+4Kate in Windows and Mac... that's what I've been waiting for... I could never figure out how to compile it for win32 before.
- ToadLeg, on 01/24/2008, -0/+4Won't it help to make them so that as many people as possible can use them, on as many platforms as possible (especially the platform that most people use) ?
- renegadeafk, on 01/24/2008, -0/+4Deluge (Not sure if it's GTK, but it runs on windows)
- neko, on 01/24/2008, -0/+4Really? I can't stand it, personally. I much prefer Nautilus.
I hate the way Explorer truncates file names, hides extensions by default, handles keyboard navigation, "blinks" at me sometimes when opening a large directory (all icons vanish then re-appear), and craps Thumbs.db and Thumbs.db:encryptable everywhere.
And the File Preview thing has royally pissed me off when the DirectShow pipeline is (inevitably) buggy or broken. After a codec pack install on my friend's machine, the (buggy) codec would POP UP A DIALOG BOX if it didn't like the looks of a video stream - Explorer feeds the codec a video stream every time you single-click on a file - hilarity ensues. On my own machine, I've had Explorer.exe explode if I click on a file it can't preview. And this code gets run even if the sidebar is hidden. - patm1987, on 01/24/2008, -0/+4I'm a huge fan of Kontact (mainly for mail, usenet, and rss), and Dolphin behaves better than explorer imho. I also enjoy Konqueror (having everything integrated in the sidebar is nice, and having all the applications semi integrated via the vertical tabs on the left). KDevelop would be nice to have (makes creating automake projects very easy, and would cause less fighting when I'm trying to integrate things, but I still prefer eclipse for multiplatform development and VS.NET for windows development).
Konversation and Kopete would be added bonuses, but they don't really outclass many of the other contenders in their space (it's nice to have the unified gui, though, in a full out kde envrionment). And KOffice would add some nice competition to OO.org.
A bit more than just Amarok, but Amarok is on the top of my wish list. - sirhomer, on 01/24/2008, -0/+4It's GTK. It was written specifically because the authors felt there was no good GTK-based torrent clients.
- grumpyrain, on 01/24/2008, -1/+5> So much better than iTunes.
What isn't? I mean isn't that sort of like stating that company X is so much less evil than the RIAA? - MWeather, on 01/24/2008, -0/+4"We'll get dugg-down for this"
You'll get dug down because kwin isn't being ported, dumbasses. - colonelxc, on 01/24/2008, -0/+4$>make
**Lots of lines of code compiling**
$> - NorseKilla, on 01/24/2008, -0/+4Win-Win is not ideal, Win-Win-Win is best, we will make the poster into a t-shirt
- Giga, on 01/24/2008, -0/+3I lol'd at the thought of running Amarok in vmware just to play some music...
- str1fe, on 01/24/2008, -0/+3That's what testing versions are for.
- regeya, on 01/24/2008, -0/+3Hey now; some of us would like to have some of the KDE apps under OS X without running X11. I've wished for Amarok, Quanta, and at one point it would have been nice to have Kontact (yes, Kontact.) Is there a hex editor for KDE4? That comes in handy on occasion as well.
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