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- ill0gical, on 05/28/2008, -3/+36As one who was dissappointed by 4.0.x, I have to say I completely agree with you. I started using OS X the more I realized that 4.0 just wasn't for me. Having run trunk on and off for a few weeks now, I have to say it might just get me to put Linux back on my MBP. And it's definitely going on my desktop. KDE 4.1 is shaping up to be a great, featureful, stable release; everything 4.0 should have been.
- nhnFreespirit, on 05/28/2008, -2/+33Good stuff! I have been running KDE4 straight from svn trunk from since before 4.0 was released, and while it has been pretty usable the whole time ( except for a few weeks during the big plasma WoC rewrite and API change recently ), its only recently that it has really started to shine. I particularly like the new FolderView applet which lets you organize the desktop in a really cool way. While there are still bugs and annoyances in 4.1, I see no reason that these are not fixable before the final release as they are mostly very minor.
So all in all, I think KDE 4.1 is going to be a great release and will appeal to many of the people who were somewhat disappointed by 4.0 - amfantasy, on 05/28/2008, -1/+25Finally, This is what I was waiting for :D
- jrepin, on 05/28/2008, -0/+18Does this help : http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KWin/4.0-release- ...
- kleverness, on 05/28/2008, -0/+17A great milestone for the KDE project :)
As someone who has been running SVN trunk since 4.0 betas I've to say KDE 4.1 is going to rock!! 4.0 was unusable for me, but since 4.1 alphas the experience has change radically. Unfortunately, we will have to wait to 4.2 for the development suite :(
BTW, OpenStreetMap integration in Marble is awesome :)
Kudos to the crew for this amazing project! KDE 4 is the future ;) - dualscreenman, on 05/28/2008, -0/+16KDE 4.1 will officially be released July 29th. But keep in mind that K/Ubuntu sometimes gets packages a few days early than the actual release. ;)
- jadrian, on 05/28/2008, -0/+15Compiz combines window manager and composite manager (the effects part), and was not developed in a modular fashion. So basically you cannot really integrate Compiz (the composite manager part) with KWin (the kde window manager).
Of course you can always use Compiz with KDE instead of KWin, but while the effects are pretty cool, as a window manager it doesn't do a good job. And this is not a criticism, Compiz (well its predecessors anyway) were meant for research in the composite manager area.
So the option was for KDE to develop its own composite manager, that integrates well with KWin (which is actually easier than developing a window manager as good as KWin for Compiz). And apparently it is working quite well :) - opencoder, on 05/28/2008, -0/+14The extensions to KWIN are to the best of my knowledge KDE only changes and have nothing to do with compiz. I don't mind having this built in to KDE4 instead of using Compiz. I like the way KDE works. The only thing I would like is a better desktop grid effect. I like the Compiz Fusion one way too much.
Alex - rlbond86, on 05/28/2008, -0/+11the Nvidia-settings manager has an option there for it. If you have ATI I don't know how to use it.
- InorganicMatter, on 05/28/2008, -4/+14You don't, because Canonical hates KDE.
- dualscreenman, on 05/28/2008, -0/+9Plasma KDE 4.1 was focused on improving the flash widgets so that they would be more functional/configurable.
But keep in mind that plasma is but one of many applications in the KDE4 realm, with each of the other ones being given tender love, care, bug fixes and new features. Not all the devs worked on Plasma for 4.1 or even for 4.0, so you also shouldn't have to worry about the flashy Plasma stuff detracting from the quality of the other modules. - Gavagai80, on 05/28/2008, -1/+10ATI's Catalyist control center has multiple monitor options right there. NVidia presumably has a control center too. If you're using the open source drivers, well, there's your problem.
- hardcorerikki, on 05/28/2008, -1/+10Cool. Any date for a stable 4.1 ? Could be nice to see how it fares in Ubuntu...
- Kyral, on 05/28/2008, -1/+10This is awesome...
Can't wait to run KDE on my Macbook (or at least Amarok :) ) - Cherubim, on 05/28/2008, -0/+9Great work. KDE just gets better.
- dualscreenman, on 05/28/2008, -0/+8There isn't any merger. Plasma is just using Webkit for Mac OSX dashboard widget support, and a webkit renderer for Konqeror will be made optional, and probably will up to the distros to decide whether to use/package it or not.
- geoken, on 05/28/2008, -0/+8If that is even possible I would hope it doesn't happen. The main compiz devs seem very bullheaded. After Beryl merged back they removed some of the most important functionality claiming it was 'hackish'. In my opinion, taking away the ability to grab a pixmap from a minimized window has drastically reduced the functionality of most of compiz's window management plugins (scale, taskbar previews).
I was glad to see the KDE devs realized the importance of displaying minimized windows in the present plugin and the panel thumbnail plugin. - LlamaKing, on 05/28/2008, -2/+10Bill Gates just got a chill down his spine.
- etx313, on 05/28/2008, -1/+9Wow, It really doesn't look like crap anymore! Well done!
- f3n1x, on 05/28/2008, -0/+7looks awesome. once everything from 3.x is adopted to 4.x (+ new improvements) i would consider it to be the single best desktop out there.
- Tsiolkovsky, on 05/28/2008, -2/+9I sure hope developers of *buntu do a better packaging job for KDE 4.1 than they did for 4.0. When trying out different distros and KDE 4.0 on them Kubuntu was one of the worst. I'd probably go with Mandriva, openSUSE and probably even Fedora for trying out KDE 4.1.
- 4DFX, on 05/28/2008, -0/+7Excellent, thank you very much.
I'm sure someone else was probably wondering the same thing. - mercurysquad, on 05/28/2008, -0/+7If I can get all the usability/features and general coolness of OS X along with all the freedom of open-source, why not?!
- KAMiKAZOW, on 05/28/2008, -0/+7This isn't officially part of Konqueror. It depends on the distributor if the WebKit KPart is installed by default.
- vmlemon, on 05/28/2008, -1/+8Yay, nice to see progress on the KDE 4.x front... I'm sure this would be a nice edition to a certain Darwin-related project, when they've made a release. ;)
- deathfix, on 05/28/2008, -0/+7Here's a link to a ready-to-use qemu virtual image of KDE 4.1.
http://etotheipiplusone.com/kde4daily/docs/kde4dai ... - amirman, on 05/28/2008, -0/+6so did they focus more on functionality with 4.1 rather than looking flashy and all those widgets? i've always appreciated KDE for being so stable yet configurable but KDE4 was one of the least configurable interfaces i've ever came into contact with.
- ill0gical, on 05/28/2008, -0/+61) You can now double click on the tab bar to create a new tab again.
2) This has probably been fixed (not sure how small you mean)
3) This isn't part of KDE, ask kubuntu people about that. - 4DFX, on 05/28/2008, -1/+7Great work KDE team!
I just don't understand one thing. Did they re-invent Compiz or did they just integrate it into KDE? Either way they should sync it with mainstream Compiz, or we'll be going back to when we had two different project that did the same - Beryl and Compiz. That would be a shameful waste of the KDE team's time. - inactive, on 05/28/2008, -0/+6I'm waiting for the next dot release of KDE4 (after the 4.1) to start testing it, I don't know when that would be tho. I'm a gnome guy but I'm seeing some really nice accomplishments in KDE4.
- VitaminH, on 05/28/2008, -0/+5I was real excited about the Kubuntu 8.04 remix version but I agree it was a disappointment. I used KDE 3.x some but not extensively (only been using Linux for about 8-9 months now) and got the hang of it, but 4 was just...not ready for the end user (as the link states) so I look forward to trying 4.1 again. Until then, it's Gnome for me.
- diggrim, on 05/28/2008, -0/+54.0 was a base upgrade...not a real release targeting users
- shakin, on 05/28/2008, -1/+5Right now in Konqueror you can go to the View menu and change to Webkit. It's been like this for months, although it hasn't always been stable. It seems okay right now.
- inactive, on 05/28/2008, -2/+6Will the Webkit/KHTML merger sync with the release of 4.1?
- reb42, on 05/28/2008, -0/+3Great news! To think I logged in just for this...
- ThantiK, on 05/28/2008, -0/+3The only problem I've really had with KDE is the format in which I generally keep my bottom bar. I usually expand my explorer bar in windows to be double-height which gives me quite a bit of room for open windows, 2 rows of quicklaunch icons, but the bar in KDE always wants to just give me HUGE single rows of icons on the bar, and HUGE single row of application windows and I honestly don't know how to change that functionality.
Only reason I boot into windows anyhow is because WoW just runs better in it. If WoW had a linux install I'd never boot into windows =( - autoatsakiklis, on 05/28/2008, -0/+31) I think you shoul contact kde devs about that konsole issue. Maybe they have just forgotten to include that menu item?
2) Seems fine now (from screenshots) - MrViklund, on 05/28/2008, -4/+7KDE 4.x is just fantastic. KDE > Gnome
- drunknmunky1, on 05/28/2008, -3/+5sudo apt-get install kde4 or sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop
One of them comes with more stuff but I can't remember which.
When the login screen appears you'll be able to pick it as a session - oobuntu, on 05/28/2008, -0/+2I wonder if they have fixed the following issues:
1) konsole doesn't have a new tab icon (requires ctrl-shift-n instead) - this is a big mistake. am using kde3 konsole for the time being
2) time and date on a small task bar aren't shown properly (date is cut off)
3) where is adept updater?
and in kubuntu, the ability to disable kickoff as easily as opensuse. - searayman, on 05/28/2008, -2/+4Can anyone tell me an easy way to get this as a session in ubuntu?
- dhayes501, on 05/28/2008, -2/+4The only feature I want is multiple monitor support. Its so simple in windows, why is it so difficult on Linux? I hacked at the xorg.conf file enough to get dual screens setup and working ok in FC7 and I'm sticking with that until they get it figured out... So annoying.
- hotweiss, on 05/28/2008, -0/+2What about Bluetooth support? Has it been added in 4.1?
- inactive, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2Of course. Nevermind that it is an official sponsor of KDE.
- shakin, on 05/28/2008, -0/+2It should at least be available for installation in the distribution's repository. I think there is a package called QtWebkit or something like that.
- inactive, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1You, apparently; at least enough to make a comment.
- inactive, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1You don't. KDE2 is old... very old... Maybe go with KDE3, but KDE4 isn't in Ports yet.
If you really want to go through all the trouble just to try it out, there are some patches and other things here - http://wiki.freebsd.org/KDE4 - but I don't know how much they have working at this time. You're better off with a QEMU/VirtualBox image: http://etotheipiplusone.com/kde4daily/docs/kde4dai ... - iRelinquish, on 05/29/2008, -0/+1ohh my bad its Daryna. Thats the kde linux mint.
- inactive, on 08/26/2008, -1/+2omgg teh Wow is 4 losserz!!
- Lazaryn, on 06/02/2008, -0/+1Just run the Windows installer in Wine or just copy the directory from your Windows partition to ~/.wine/drive_c/wherever. Works just as well in OpenGL mode on Linux as it does in Window.
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