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- schestowitz, on 12/11/2007, -4/+56That's roughly the type of box I run KDE4 on at home. KDE 4 isn't a case of adding 'fat'. It's not the Vistafication of XP.
- dualscreenman, on 12/11/2007, -2/+49Plus they already have Kubuntu. (
- floridiot2, on 12/11/2007, -6/+40256 Men in Black??
- vln004, on 12/11/2007, -0/+33i remember when i was drooling over a 1gzh computer. Actually, i remember drooling over a 400mhz computer. it's amazing how much can change in so little time.
- HerbertScrunge, on 12/11/2007, -0/+26KDE will never be the default DE of Ubuntu for many reasons, just one of which is that they do not schedule their releases to match the 6-monthly cycle of Ubuntu.
- piesforyou, on 12/11/2007, -0/+22Vistafication.... now that should go in the dictionary! Love it.
- sx66gns, on 12/11/2007, -2/+22Your right , you don't have to install "separate components" in windows , your still in 1998 , I bet that's a more or less a default installation.
New installation of xp requires:
Firefox
Codec pack
Ccleaner
Spybot
Spyware blaster
Anti-Virus
Plugin's & WMV Codecs for Firefox
A ***** load of drivers
A ***** of painful updates
Optimizations
I'm forgetting a few I'm sure.
A Clean Ubuntu install:
Gfx Driver (Which it does for you)
Codecs , again from add/remove. - sx66gns, on 12/11/2007, -1/+15Windows 98/98se is no longer supported by any hardware manufacturer or software manufacturer for that matter , 98se has been officially phased out , try again.
- richbradshaw, on 12/11/2007, -0/+14I remember drooling.
- secleinteer, on 12/11/2007, -2/+16http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte
- seacaspian, on 12/11/2007, -0/+13It is great to see linux making strides in the desktop market - while Vista requires a mountain of resources, you can cobble together a system from virtually nothing and do fine with linux.
- elfprince13, on 12/11/2007, -2/+15sort of like all those Gnome apps that begin with a g, which isn't backwards of all.
- tuxerware, on 12/11/2007, -5/+16Well your knowledge about gnome apps seems pretty poor, Tracker is undergoing heavy development and version 0.6.4 was released today. Nautilus has had it's plumbing reworked to use gio which should add support for many different file systems in the future.
- sx66gns, on 12/11/2007, -1/+12your an idiot.
- bigsteve, on 12/11/2007, -0/+11I don't know how complete of a test this is. The title is a bit misleading. He's no running KDE4 on a machine with these specs, he's using software to throttle his IBM Thinkpad T60 down to these specs. This doesn't account for the faster bus speeds, better graphics card, and probably larger processor cache in play here. I also don't know if KDE takes advantage of SSE2 or 3, but this may factor in as well.
One of the comments on the page was about someone running this same setup on a real 900mhz / 256mb RAM computer, an IBM Thinkpad T22. He seemed to describe it as fair-good but with an obvious disadvantage of the T22's anemic graphics chip. - renegadeafk, on 12/11/2007, -2/+13You feeling insecure?
- coollettuce, on 12/11/2007, -1/+11Well that makes me and thousands of other people on digg fags then.
- inactive, on 12/11/2007, -1/+11MiB an obscure nerd terminology? Surely digg isn't what it use to be anymore...
- sx66gns, on 12/11/2007, -0/+9Also to the windows 98 does! people , We are talking about a modern OS that's running on older hardware , retards. Vista won't install on anything less than 512mb unless hacked and runs like ***** on that.
- ptFoe, on 12/11/2007, -24/+33KDE4 is looking sweet hopefully Ubuntu will make it as default WM for Ubuntu and phase out Gnome which has become so archaic. The development of Gnome apps has stalled like Nautilus & Tracker. Then you have have the threat of Mono based apps.
- Rezistik, on 12/11/2007, -6/+15Now if they could just make it look better, it looks like it was made for special kids with the big icons.
- skywake, on 12/11/2007, -1/+9yeah damn them naming KDE apps using the letter K. I mean its not like we see stuff like that anywhere else at all..... and esp not from popular companies like say... Apple for instance *cough* *cough*
- Philluminati, on 12/11/2007, -0/+8The letter 'i' was taken by apple
- Philluminati, on 12/11/2007, -3/+11Windows is for consumers, not for I.T. professionals.
- yohnkrb, on 12/11/2007, -0/+8Great, now I can ditch the 20 CPUs in my basements as Christmas presents. Win-Win!
- ProducedRaw, on 12/11/2007, -0/+8Keep in mind that any KDE4 screens you've seen so far are pre-release. The final version will get cleaned up.
- Philluminati, on 12/11/2007, -0/+8The installer won't run if you have less than 512MB RAM I'm sure.
- BurtCokain, on 12/11/2007, -0/+8To be fair, I run OS X 10.4 on a 400 Mhz G4 with 384 Mb RAM, it wasn't that usable for web stuff (i.e. Mail and Web at the same time) with 256 Mb. I have XP running on an old pentium 4 with 256 Mb RAM, and it does the web/chat/dvds etc perfectly well.
However, this is a current Linux system that is in development and has support. The systems i use are 2 years old, and 5 years old (i think) and support for them is being phased out. (I wouldn't want to put Leopard on the mac, and I wouldn't want to put Vista on the PC). Linux will hopefully keep these systems in use in a few more years. KDE is also free, so this is great news! I'll probably make the P4 dual boot at some point, and I think this will be going on it. - gameforge, on 12/11/2007, -1/+9802.11b/g card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
Features: Has more under Linux than under Windows
Price: $23
WiFi worked on my IBM Thinkpad w/ Centrino the day it was new over three years ago. You must either be incredibly stupid or own the most cheese-dick WiFi card ever. - elfprince13, on 12/11/2007, -0/+7I think its more the 256MB ram part, but thats still fairly standard for a lot of people.
and I run Ubuntu on a 300MHz processor with 160MB of RAM (which is a huge upgrade from the 96 it was using a couple months ago. - Toshibi, on 12/11/2007, -0/+7I remember drooling over 128K ram. Seriously. That's K not M.
- andrewbash, on 06/11/2009, -1/+8Why would you be anti Linux? How does Linux hurt you if you don't use it?
- commentbot, on 12/11/2007, -5/+12KDE doesn't please me visually. It's really dreary: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/files/images//kde_low ...
- gameforge, on 12/11/2007, -0/+7Bah. I remember drooling over a 286 when I was in high school. I had been asleep most of the class, hence the drool. Today we have Linux web servers that are smaller than my cell phone.
It should be mentioned (and probably already has) that this submission isn't accurate whatsoever. He's not running KDE on a 1GHz CPU - he's running it on, perhaps, a 2.2GHz dual core CPU clocked at 1GHz and limited to one core. Same clock speed, *not* same execution speed. My 1.7GHz ThinkPad runs the GLXS demo pretty damn well at 200MHz under Windows XP - *many times* the speed it would run on a 200MHz Pentium Pro.
Some years ago I went from a 750MHz Duron to a 2000MHz Athlon XP which resulted in a more than 6x speed increase in both CPU and FPU performance for the benchmark I used. More than double what you'd expect just given the clock rate.
All of the parts of the computer in this test (bus, memory, GPU) are all more efficient than their 1GHz-era counterparts, and are likely still running much faster too. Sure they're being throttled down with the CPU speed, but with DDR/DDR2 devices, big caches with closer and on-chip memory controllers and ever-more-efficient chipsets, execution speed relative to clock speed starts to compound very quickly.
Just within the CPU, if it takes a P-III 20 cycles to perform some function and it takes a Core2Duo 10 cycles to perform the same function, that would be a 100% increase in speed at the exact same clock rate, with respect to that one function, all other factors being equal.
Of course, KDE and Linux will still run great on old machines like that - I used to run KDE on that 750MHz Duron for my main computer. But this isn't how you test it. :) - Stalks, on 12/11/2007, -4/+10You're a tool. Base opinions on an applications merits, not their friggin' name. Besides, who cares if you pick Gnome over KDE; this doesn't even warrant fanboy-ism.
- aywwts4, on 12/11/2007, -2/+8Before you dig this guy down could you post some screenshots that would change one's mind, because I haven't seen KDE lately, but I am agreeing with him from the screenshot in the article.
- Rhino2, on 12/11/2007, -1/+7Your mom pleases me visually and in other ways too. What you want, Gnome with teh grey GTK widgets from 1994?
- TeacherOfHeroes, on 12/11/2007, -0/+6I'm not sure why your comment hasn't been dugg higher than it is, or why some people are digging you down - you're absolutely right. GNOME 2.22's roadmap has Nautilus-gIO scheduled for inclusion, and tracker is still maturing nicely.
I'm not sure if its the lack of new buttons being stuffed into the toolbars that makes some people think that development has stopped, but a lot of the time, once you have the UI done, you can spend a lot of time adding new features under the hood without a lot of big honking changes to the UI. In fact, it's the mark of a good dev team that they can improve the programme and add features without making disruptive changes to the user's experience. Look at the search option added to the Gtk::FileChooserWidget in 2.20 - seamless. I think people who complain about Nautilus just want them to change the UI to suit them, and call it 'stalled' when they don't - naich, on 12/11/2007, -1/+7Well, children, I remember getting my first 16MHz 286, and I thought that was awesomely fast compared to my ZX81.
- Monstradamus, on 12/11/2007, -4/+10Vista will run with these specs too :-P just turn off all the shiny components and set like 4 gigs virtual ram
- Philluminati, on 12/11/2007, -1/+7That looks like just a poor theme to me. Those are changable
- simd, on 12/11/2007, -0/+6My Sony Vaio's wireless installed straight off the Ubuntu install CD, no configuration required. Which is more than I can say for Windows XP which didn't recognise it and took 3 reboots to get it to work.
- elfprince13, on 12/11/2007, -0/+5excellent, because thats essentially what all 3 of my computers are.
- inactive, on 12/11/2007, -4/+9yeah
- tempusrob, on 12/11/2007, -0/+5Well, if the HDD manufacturers hadn't hijacked GB to mean 1000 MB instead of 1024 MB we wouldn't have to use the "stupid" proper suffixes.
- Kratos76, on 12/11/2007, -0/+5Thank You! I was hoping someone would reference to that!
- quenturi, on 12/11/2007, -0/+5>hopefully Ubuntu will make it as default WM for Ubuntu and phase out Gnome which has become so archaic<
The 'Ubuntu project' doesn't give a ***** about the kubuntu project. They put most of their efforts on only one distro : Ubuntu/Gnome. There is no sign whatsoever this is going to change. - Nosferax, on 12/11/2007, -0/+5I'm using an audigy 2 in ubuntu right now. It's natively supported
- SteveMax, on 12/11/2007, -0/+4Yes. It works (on amd64), while they don't work under Vista amd64. Your point?
- Disfnord, on 12/11/2007, -0/+4YAY BSD?
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