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KDE 4.1 Beta 2 Released!

kde.org — KDE hackers have been working on polishing the new features, desktop integration, and documenting and translating the packages. Several bugfixing sessions have been held and squashed bugs in the beta software. Testing and feedback on this release is appreciated and needed to make the final KDE 4.1 release in late July 2008 a splash.

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  • miga, on 06/24/2008, -0/+33KDE made lots of improvements in the 4.1 dev-cycle! Can't wait for the final version in July!
  • dualscreenman, on 06/24/2008, -1/+30Kubuntu packages are being built as we speak. Some packages are already done and the rest should come through within a day or so.
    Barring accidents, packaging shouldn't be as late as Beta1. :P

    *EDIT*
    Oh, just saw this: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.1beta2.php
  • KevinJim, on 06/24/2008, -0/+27I have to say this. I a KDE fanatic BUT I hated the 4.0, too many bugs incomplete and all that stuff we all complain about back then. Now KDE community take the stage and present the real future of the KDE, very polished and shiny. Thank you KDE team and thanks to all the KDE users for the feedback. We look foreword for the KDE 4.2 and the work on plasma. I'm an exited and happy KDE user :P
  • Tsiolkovsky, on 06/24/2008, -1/+27Just installed Beta 2 and played with it a little. I must say I'm impressed. KDE community has made a big step forward in only 5 months since the release of KDE 4.0. Stability is much better, it's faster and there is more general polish to the desktop. I'm also glad to see more focus on supporting KDE 4 programming in languages like Ruby and Python, which are easier to learn for people like me and makes it easier to contribute to KDE for more people. Keep up the great work KDE hackers!
  • cesclaveria, on 06/25/2008, -0/+23give him a break, his native language is not english, he is being polite by not posting in greek.
  • dualscreenman, on 06/24/2008, -0/+15s/window manager/desktop environment?
    KWin and Metacity and Compiz are window managers, KDE, Gnome and xfce are examples of desktop environments. (Don't worry, it's an easy mistake to make and one I've made before.)
  • Malnilion, on 06/24/2008, -2/+15I'm glad KDE 4 is getting more stable and more feature-complete. While I'm a Gnome fan myself, I think it is really important that there remains a strong competitor in the large (okay, I'll admit, bloated) window manager category.
  • dualscreenman, on 06/25/2008, -0/+13Because it has new/improved features that 3.5 lacks?
    P.S. You'll find that 4.1 offers a much better way of dealing with desktop icons.
  • Rapax, on 06/25/2008, -0/+11You do realise that KDE is easier on the resources than Gnome, right? Has ben for quite a while now.
  • Tsiolkovsky, on 06/25/2008, -0/+11Follow these instructions: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/KDE4
  • tomach, on 06/25/2008, -2/+12meh, im yet to find a better desktop environment than kde 4.1_even_beta. gnome feels too limiting and feels like it was made for robots. only if gtk themes would play nice with gtk-qt4 since firefox looks like garbage on kde4. could be the packages kubuntu has, but tried compiling and the end result is pretty much the same. konqueror is a fine browser, slick and beautiful. but firefox still is my choice for a browser.
    ... now only if nvidia would fix the damn 2d acceleration of 8xxx series. my 8800gt cries in pain when it try to resize a 2d window... my 7600 faired a 200% better. what a let down.
  • earlycj5, on 06/25/2008, -0/+8Crystal is/was a 3rd party app. It's not an official part of KDE and you're busting their (KDE Developer's) chops about it? Wow!
  • dualscreenman, on 06/25/2008, -0/+8Ensuring that you have nice fonts are really a distribution level thing... and both of these are of a subjective nature. (I quite like the current window decoration...) There is no way to have a default that will suit everybody, so anybody could make the same argument you made about any software project. I could turn around and direct the exact comment you made towards Gnome.
  • mahler, on 06/25/2008, -0/+8>4.0 wasn't even finished.
    Neither is 4.1

    >hope you can at least move and delete icons in 4.1.
    Yes you can

    >Why bother if 4.1 doesn't at least have all the features of 3.5?
    Because it offers new technology not available in 3.5
  • jernejovc, on 06/25/2008, -0/+7Maybe this will help someone to make Firefox 3 look nicer. It's still only in alpha but already works quite well. There is a special KDE4 theme for Firefox 3: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/757 ...
  • ptFoe, on 06/24/2008, -0/+7wow that looks promising, hopefully it will be stable as well
  • rabiddawgr, on 06/25/2008, -0/+7did you delete all the old plasmarc and appletsrc files? Cos that is ~70% if not more causes of plasma crashes
  • inactive, on 06/25/2008, -2/+8Thank god a Mac person is here to show us the way, after
    all the work Apple went through to create the 10.x version from scratch they should know how to make an OS? right?............
  • earlycj5, on 06/25/2008, -1/+7So? What kind of comment about KDE 4.1 Beta2 is that? Try it out, then make a comment on it if you want to add something to the discussion.

    Not that this comment was inherently useful or interesting to the topic at hand either.
  • kelvie, on 06/25/2008, -0/+6+1

    This _really_ makes Firefox blend in a lot better.
  • tomach, on 06/25/2008, -0/+6wow, you just made my day. this is what i've been looking for a loong looong time!
  • 4321234, on 06/25/2008, -0/+5Use the suse package search.
    http://packages.opensuse-community.org/
    Search for something. For kde4, something like kdebase4.
    Find the newest version. (or whatever ver you want)
    The "results from" link is your link to that repository.
  • kronarq, on 06/26/2008, -1/+6RPM's make me a sad panda.
  • 3242130193, on 06/24/2008, -1/+6i'm historically a gnome user and shied away from kde 3.5 cause my computer couldn't handle it and 4.0 because of stability, but for sure, I'm going to try kubuntu or fedora 9 once 4.1 is released.
  • jernejovc, on 06/25/2008, -0/+5There is an installer available from this page: http://windows.kde.org/
    I'm not sure if they already have the latest beta version though.
  • inactive, on 06/25/2008, -0/+4Yeah, back around version 2.0...
    But that was a long time ago.
  • aletornw, on 06/25/2008, -1/+5I just tested it, there are a lot of improvements but it isn't ready to use. There are a lot of knotify crashes also. There are plenty of configuration options missing, and i think that the k menu should be redesigned, it's very annoying.
  • InorganicMatter, on 06/25/2008, -2/+6OpenSUSE packages? Please?
  • grundleborg, on 06/25/2008, -0/+4Just use a different menu if click off is annoying! Thats the great thing about plasma - you can swap the menu plasmoid for a different one (or even get rid of it altogether). There's at least one other in 4.1 already, and there are several more under construction that will be there soon.
  • beddoes, on 06/25/2008, -0/+4As a current 4.0.5 user on Fedora 9 I am really hoping 4.1 fixes a lot of the issues I am experiencing daily, especially the random 30 second locks when switching between desktops occasionally. Also need to be able to MOVE THE TASKBAR TO A DIFFERENT MONITOR in my multi monitor setup, really annoying.

    Apart from these annoyances I think the 4.x changes are great.
  • shakin, on 06/25/2008, -0/+4The desktop switching delay has been gone from the 4.1 nightly builds for ages. If Fedora has a 4.1 beta 2 repository you should update. It's all forward steps and no backwards steps even in beta.
  • dualscreenman, on 06/25/2008, -0/+4Tried installing gtk-qt-engine-kde4? It adds a GTK style module to the Appearance section of systemsettings, so you can configure GTK apps to use the KDE4 theme. It's slightly buggy with FF3, (partly due to FF, since the issues don't appear in true GTK apps) but it still makes a big difference.
  • inactive, on 06/25/2008, -0/+4So this is what trolling has become.

    Sad.
  • inactive, on 06/25/2008, -0/+4I'm a Gnome user myself but I'm looking forward to KDE4 to become stable enough for me to use it. It looks really cool so far. I tried it on the OpenSUSE 11 LiveCD and it is really cool, I loved Dolphin and the Kickoff launcher menu, it has some usability issues that I don't like tho like having to click on menus (i.e. 'internet' 'utilities' 'graphics' etc.) and not just hover the mouse over them in order for you to see what you're looking for. That's a serious usability issue for me and I'm sure that for many other users, a turn off of kickoff if you ask me.
  • shakin, on 06/25/2008, -1/+4Kubuntu has terrible KDE 4 packages. Since I use KDE exclusively it's turned me off Ubuntu entirely, though I still have it on my laptop at home at the moment. I tried OpenSuse at work because people rave about their KDE support and it is indeed quite good.

    I don't like Novell's Microsoft deal so I'm going to try Mandriva next. Actually, I would probably stay with Suse if it'd let me do an online update to Suse 11, but I have to download CDs and do an offline update, which is garbage. Can anybody recommend a Debian-based distro with great KDE 4 support?
  • sark666, on 06/26/2008, -0/+3I just installed it, thinking this is a good time as any to try kde4.1 having never tried 4.0

    I was surprised when changing from window/maximized with say dolphin, I could see the redraw a bit. I enabled the kwin composite effects but yet resizing was a little slow in the redraw area.

    Took a long time to log in at start. I was surprised konsole is still qt3; they haven't got around to konsole yet or did I miss a pkg during install? It'll be nice to get a qt4 vid player, kaffeine I don't is ready. Can't change time to 12 hr format?!

    Just some quesitons, but otherwise looking good. Have to play around a bit more.
  • bigbang14, on 06/27/2008, -0/+3They already have ported konsole to qt4, you must have missed a package. Also, they have a kde 4 video player but it's not kaffeine, its called dragonplayer.
  • oobuntu, on 06/25/2008, -0/+3its an nvidia/compiz bug i think, i had that issue and changed the resize style in compiz to "outline" or something like that and it fixed the problem.
  • earlycj5, on 06/25/2008, -1/+4Using the openSUSE packages, lot's of Knotify crash errors.

    But at least it looks better.
  • Malnilion, on 06/25/2008, -0/+2Ah, thanks, I make that mistake too often.
  • nhnFreespirit, on 06/27/2008, -1/+3Which is of course why you have filed bug reports with the specifics of the issues you are having, thus being a constructive member of the community, helping to ensure that the final version of KDE 4.1 will be as good as it can be, instead of just posting useless comments with 0 actionable items on digg? :-)

    This is after all a beta which is released to the community so anyone interested can help get the bugs sorted out... Why else would you be running it?
  • oobuntu, on 06/27/2008, -0/+2Can you back up your experience with some information/links to the bugs/feature regressions you have found? I'm sure the developers are interested to know.
  • brettalton, on 06/27/2008, -0/+2I'm using it right now and it still has a very GNOMEish feel to it (menus, sidebar). Konqueror has pure integration and thus looks the best, but it sure isn't Firefox.
  • TonyMurray, on 06/27/2008, -0/+2You didn't happen to keep a copy of the bad plasmarc and appletsrc files so we can inspect them to prevent this for other users did you?
  • Origin415, on 06/26/2008, -1/+3Benchmarks?
  • lengau, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2THANK YOU!
    You have become my instant Person of the Day for your contribution to KDE! Not being able to move the panel onto another screen is one of the things that's been keeping me back on 3.5.9.

    Having not used KDE 4 for over a month, I don't remember the following: Can you make two panels yet? That's one of the things holding me back, too.
  • brettalton, on 06/27/2008, -0/+2I thought it was: Fluxbox -> XFCE -> GNOME -> KDE.

    Is KDE4 faster than KDE3?
  • kronarq, on 06/26/2008, -0/+2Agreed this is an awesome addon and makes my kde experience alot better as FF3 is my browser of choice.
  • brettalton, on 06/25/2008, -1/+3Why does GNOME suck?

    God damn KDE, didn't like you until now :(
  • TonyMurray, on 06/27/2008, -0/+2beddoes, Interestingly enough, being able to move the panel from one screen to another was my first contribution to KDE, and is in KDE 4.1 beta 2. :)
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