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- ekorn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19I'm interested in hearing what made you choose Joomla over Drupal!
- goatrandy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12 I wouldn't say that Joomla is 'better' than Drupal, but I personally prefer it. My reasoning?
1) Drupal consumed more CPU/Memory on my test machine.
2) I like the templating system in Joomla more.
3) It had an easier installation process for me, because my ISP has a 'one click' installer for Joomla. (Dreamhost)
4) On my test machine Joomla handled at least 100 more connections per second with caching enabled on both Drupal and Joomla.
5) The admin interface is not only prettier, its MUCH easier to use (in my opinion, which is the only one that counts to ME). - central183, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11I second that! What makes Joomla better than Drupal. I looked hard and far to find the best CMS. Both Joomla and Drupal were on the top. But I felt like Drupal had a more refined look as well as more support.
- gstuartj, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Uh... They're for completely different kinds of websites. Wordpress is meant to power blogs, Joomla is meant to power large websites (including blogs). Joomla is much more scalable than Wordpress for large sites. Don't make opinionated statements when you do not have adequate knowledge of the product you are talking about.
- hugueslamy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Congratulation to a CMS system that I consider to be one of the best. At M2i3.com, we're just waiting for the final 1.5 version to start converting from Drupal to Joomla.
- manitoba98xp, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9I concur. I love Drupal, how is Joomla better, again?
- amoeba, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Well done. Joomla is a good CMS.
For those concerned about long urls, there are several effective extensions to rewrite to friendly urls.
The templating system is easy to alter. You can change the entire layout of the site by editing a single file (template/index.php) to change module positioning.
There's a lot of opinions about which CMS is the best but at the end of the day, the one that suits your requirements at the time is the best for you.
Personally, for me, Joomla is the best. - vdxc, on 09/29/2008, -0/+3"php's safe_mode to OFF for a default install"
This is because of Joomla! built-in extension installation system (ie, you upload the extension as a zip in your browser and Joomla! does the rest). This has been changed in the new version (1.5, currently beta) to use an FTP connection instead of only using PHP. - gharding, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3That doesn't bode well for the CMS :)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3http://www.duggmirror.com
There, fixed the text to a link. Although they appear to be slacking a bit and not picking this one up. Give them a few minutes. - CritterNYC, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6I chose Drupal over Mambo/Joomla for PortableApps.com for many of the reasons that people have mentioned. Drupal is much more customizable (every Joomla site looks like a Joomla site... whereas with Drupal, you're just limited by your PHP/HTML/CSS skills). The add-ons setup is much more logically thought out. It natively supports custom URLs for every page out of the box.. it wasn't some add-on that seemed kludgey as with Joomla (the history behind why it's that way is pretty interesting, btw). This was one of the biggies for me. You'll note that the drupal home and about pages are:
http://drupal.org/
http://drupal.org/about
While the Joomla home and "what is joomla" pages are:
http://www.joomla.org/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/
http://www.joomla.org/content/view/12/26/
Now, I haven't played with Joomla in nearly a year (since I chose Drupal over it), so many of these shortcoming may have been addressed by now. But some of them, it appears, are still there. - raindog469, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I set up a community site in February using Joomla for a group whose administrators were just technical enough to use Yahoo Mail. They wanted a blog-type interface to post news and receive comments, a calendar, and a place to put text files and pictures. Basically, a slightly more bloggy version of Yahoo Groups.
They couldn't figure out Joomla. At all. I ended up having to post their stories and do their updates. The whole reason behind having a CMS (letting different members of the community contribute) was shot to hell.
In March, they asked if I could just set up Frontpage or something for them and they'd maintain it as a bunch of HTML pages. I threw up my hands and installed Drupal, asking them to give it another go, and since then everything's been fine. They do their own updates, add and delete users, handle comments, and all that stuff.
I can't say I really have any experience with running CMS-based sites myself, other than posting the articles they wrote for that one month. But based on their experience, Drupal will be what I choose if and when I ever need a CMS myself. It just seems easier to deal with. - vdxc, on 09/29/2008, -1/+3The Joomla! site already takes a lot of traffic (1.8TB monthly) excluding the forge, the digg effect probably just pushed the server a bit too far.
- vvvv, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"Fastly". Hahahahahahahaha nice.
- vdxc, on 09/29/2008, -0/+1dude ... the project was founded this time last year and has won the award two years running.
- torri, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3i think joomla is very limited and it really sucks that you have to turn php's safe_mode to OFF for a default install. modxcms is nice but not mature enough and slows down your workflow in critical places. Drupal is nice but... well... i tend to use typo3. it makes development really fast once you get to know it but i have to admit it is really bloated... whatever you do stay far far away from "redaxo" - a quick look at its table-structure should give any self-respecting, serious webdev (i know there aren't many(here)) the shudders...
(aww damn, i forgot this is digg not /., so here's my diggish comment):
Graet JOOMLA! FTW. Microsoft suxx. Can somebody tell me where to get cool firefox extensions for faster of torrent download speed with joomla? Let's hope it runs on my new MBP i'll get this week!1 - mateo60, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6One thing I've noticed about Drupal, and this is anecdotal: I used to read The Onion and Pitchfork (pitchforkmedia.com) every day. Eventually, they both redesigned their sites to well customized Drupal sites, and I stopped going. Not on purpose, I wasn't mad or anything. Things just didn't seem to work quite as well, and things didn't seem as conveniently laid out.
I'm no Drupal expert, I've messed with it a little, but Joomla is so easy and seems so logical, that I find it to be the best CMS for me. - 2012, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2My current website is Joomla. I also had websites in Mambo. I love them both. I was under the impression that Joomla was like a next generation Mambo but I am not sure. They are almost identical but both Joomla and Mambo are now two separated things and have their own sites. If anybody knows the why, what, how, or where of this, maybe post something here? I'm just curious.
- mozami, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@2012 - Joomla is a fork of mambo - here is the basic history of the split and timeline upto now:
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- dogumgunu, on 11/07/2009, -0/+1Hi .. why is change joomla system your web site. Because your web site very nice. my web site is http://www.evdenevenakliyatl.com
- jonmacgregor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Congratulations to Joomla! Well deserved award. Certainly with 1.5 coming, the most likely Open Source framework to become a default / globally adopted FOSS solution.
I find it highly amusing that the other players (Drupal in particular) are so quick to post on here, defending their project. Drupal is not and does not compare in many key areas to Joomla!, so why do it?
Well, Drupal needs to re-evaluate its own relationship with stakeholders ie community. For one Drupal should learn make a release that is backwards compatible and not break, something I've experienced many times. Break, broken, busted = my Drupal upgrades.
Joomla! 1.5 is the future for me and the many tens of thousands like me. Don't compare Joomla! with a minor CMS like Drupal. Compare it with the commercial vendors. Joomla! is better than anything Microsoft offers. Go test Microsoft CMS (check out the, ouch, price) and then compare to Joomla!
May the Joomlasphere be with you. - r0tt3n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well, this is a bit of a long post, but as a software engineer and experienced Joomla user and developer, I think I have some valuable things to contribute, so here goes.
I've read many diggs about Joomla, and it's interesting to me that they're so often filled with comments from Drupal supporters. I wonder if the converse is also true, that diggs about Drupal are rammed with Joomla supporters, or if there is something to be read about the relative merits of Drupal over Joomla from this observation.
I've seen very some very convincing popularity graphs showing Joomla on an explosive path, more than doubling Drupal, which is shown to be on a flat plot with little to no growth at all ( http://buytaert.net/drupal-vs-joomla-popularity ) but I don't know what to make of these. Given what appears to be a somewhat lop-sided slant towards Drupal support amongst what I think is the upper-tear of the technology field - diggers - maybe those results have been cherry-picked and don't really amount to much.
I personally have been using Joomla since I read about its name change from mambo on /. in September of last year. As a freelance software engineer and web designer, I've been building e-commerce websites for clients using Joomla, with the VirtueMart component to handle the e-commerce side of things. I have to agree with most of what I've read here, that although dynamic page generation (CMS) is in general really great, both Joomla and Drupal have a long way to go, and for the time being, it takes a monumental effort from someone with a lot of specialized knowledge to produce anything remotely unique or customized.
I considered and still am considering moving to Drupal, but whenever I experimented with it, I had such a hard time getting over the hurdle of not understanding their architectural decisions and terminology that I just never got into it. That's not to say that Joomla's all that much better, but it just wasn't quite as bad.
In the future, I think both Joomla and Drupal will be a thing of the past for my purposes. I have been lobbying Google (a.k.a. writing lots of feedback) trying to encourage them to expand its Page Creator service to function more like a CMS, and to include shopping cart functionality (with tie-ins to Google Checkout). To me, this is the holy grail of CMS', because at the present moment, upgrading sites I've built is almost impossible given the number of core hacks I had to make to do anything remotely functional. If a site were built with Google Page Creator, the maintenance of the core code is left to Google to manage, leaving me with more time to think about other more important things, like where to spend my vacation. - andersonmanly, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Good job guys.
- JPamplin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Well, I'm a Drupal user, not necessarily because it's so easy to setup and configure (it's not), but it has a wealth of modules, runs on Windows platforms, and seems to have an active user community. Joomla has all that too, but maybe not the Windows part (it doesn't say that it runs on Windows, but I don't know).
We picked Drupal for our corporate intranet (developing now), and it's been very fast and stable. I congratulate Joomla for the award, but wasn't that just a "highest number of votes" popularity contest?
JP - skor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4They should have used Drupal ;)
http://drupal.org/node/88416
"I was slashdotted and dugg (and didn't go down)" - grubesteak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@mateo60
"Things just didn't seem to work quite as well, and things didn't seem as conveniently laid out."
That's a design/articheture issue. If the site doesn't work as well, it's because they didn't design it with the user in mind, if I understand your statement correctly. - xamox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just wait till next year. Drupal 5.0 will destroy all. The new version will have 1-click install. A way better admin interface, way better default theme, and more goodness added to the core like jQuery and AJAX support.
As to your comment about Drupal being a minor CMS is that why these people use it:
Tim Berners Lee(Creator of the World Wide Web)
NASA
This Week in Tech
NATO
CERN
MTV UK
about the only thing minor here is your intelligence. - OkeyOyna, on 05/12/2008, -0/+0Oyun
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