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- jessejoedotcom, on 10/12/2007, -14/+66"How bout you suck on my balls?"
Since you obviously use Windows, I'm gonna assume some malware wrote that ignorant comment. - jessejoedotcom, on 10/12/2007, -10/+58Vista too? And Wii, and Macs? How about you shut up and block the Linux category.
- jessejoedotcom, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24Digg is about user generated content. If people think something is interesting, it will make the front page. Just because you don't think it is, doesn't make it spam.
- Computer_Kid, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20And if you are hard core, you can get the source, get the modules you need, and compile it your self! :-)
- Shadowman, on 10/12/2007, -6/+23If Ubuntu is not for you, try Fedora, openSUSE, Mandriva, PCLinuxOS, or one of the many other Linux distributions ( http://distrowatch.com ). That's the beauty of Linux - it's not "one size fits all".
- Mejogid, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18Try this (worked with me from the console)
1. sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
2. Scroll down to the device section.
3. Change driver to 'vesa'.
4. Ctrl + X.
5. Y.
6. Enter.
You lose 3-D acceleration, but it's an improvement on three rectangles.
(Vesa is the most basic driver that pretty much works with anything). - rotarychainsaw, on 10/12/2007, -8/+21Can't go back to XP. It looks so bad in comparison.
- Gregd, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19@jeffh
You see, you've been here almost a year and you've submitted 2 stories. If you aren't happy with the quality or the types of submissions, get off your ass and start submitting some of your own non-Ubuntu stories.... - doolittle, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16+digg for mentioning "network-manager-gnome" as a solution for WPA connectivity.
Will have to try that if I ever upgrade my laptop card (still tunneling vpn over unrouted WEP, it works =) - Computer_Kid, on 10/12/2007, -8/+20Welcome to the Light Side
- neko, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17mm. I've been trying it on my laptop, it was going quite well, but there's a nasty little bug to do with my ati mobility radeon.
I think I've got it fixed for now (famous last words..) by telling the driver to disable any attempts at acceleration; fair enough, but I don't think Ubuntu should have had it enabled as a default, knowing the state of the ati driver.
So, it's a minus. But it's had plenty of other plusses so far, wifi, firewire, even memory stick and odd keyboard layout working out-of-the-box. Haven't made up my mind yet. - antitab, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17"You lose 3-D acceleration"
No, you lose ALL acceleration. Most significantly, 2D. If you have a very fast computer, you might not notice. But otherwise, it slows graphics down to a crawl. Vesa is good for troubleshooting or a last resort, but it really isn't good to use regularly. - BionicBeefpile, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14I sort of disagree with the conclusion by the author to "run Ubuntu on the side as a hobby".
I think you learn much more if you immerse yourself in the system. If not, then the inclination will be "I'll just restart to Windows to do that" rather than teach yourself something.
I understand that many people have only one system, and that you can't just up and delete everything on it to give Ubuntu a shot, but *please* resist strongly the initial urge to go back to Windows every time you run into a small issue. In a few days, probably, you won't even *think* about booting something else - scantellay, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12So far I have had this running on my laptop for about 3 weeks, and have had no real issues as of yet. Make sure that you check out the forums http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ the community is full of users that will help you out. Next after installing if you want to play mp3 or DVDs you should go here http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ and follow the instructions. Have fun. and enjoy Ubuntu.
- rgov, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Actually, WAV *is* Microsoft technology (jointly with IBM).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAV - Gregd, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14I have an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M in my Toshiba Satellite laptop and was able to get Ubuntu up and running on it with no issues (until I downloaded the latest updates last week and it botched the gui). I also attempted to get SUSE installed a couple of weeks ago and was unable to see the desktop. I'm assuming it's because of my graphics card.
- sembetu, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13/rant
This is getting silly. I am starting to see more and more articles on digg that have already been on Wired, Techdirt, and Slashdot.
I am not questioning the quality of the articles, but about a year ago, when started reading digg, I was drawn by the fact that I could find information here that hadn't hit any other news source.
Seriously, by the time a major rmagazine like Wired gets it, it is not the bleeding edge news I originally came here for.
/end rant
I apologize for going off topic, but it had to be said.
btw, I already saw this SPECIFIC article earlier on Wired. Hence, the rant. - arpspoof, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10I converted to Ubuntu after being surprised how everything just worked and the support was great. I use network manager and all of a sudden wireless is easy and painless, even with wpa2. I'm just tired of tinkering with other distro's to get them to eventually work how you want them. Installed automatix, and a few customizations later, Bam! Working Linux...
- kdehead, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"Didn't the command line go away in the 80s? I thought that died with DOS."
believe it or not, sometimes the command line is faster than using a mouse.
what processor am i using?
more /proc/cpuinfo
i want to install azureus:
apt-get install azureus
i want a directory listing and to stick it in a file:
ls -la > dirlist.txt
i want to see the ip addresses of visitors to my website today, and i want it sorted by amount of visits per ip address:
grep "29/Aug" access.log | awk {'print $1'} | sort | uniq -c | sort
when you start chaining commands together like that you can start doing some seriously cool stuff. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -12/+17I can't get the newest Ubuntu to install on an older compaq proliant server. The installation creates partitions and then doesn't see them to install on. I had a different problem with the kernel of the last ubuntu major release. I'm tired of having to recompile everything for faulty distros, goodbye Ubuntu, you've failed me.
- myFriendDerrik, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."
- Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943 - Gregd, on 10/12/2007, -9/+14"I had no idea it was my obligation to submit stories. I come to Digg to read news, not to read spam. It doesn't take a prolific story submitter to realize that this is spam."
It's your obligation to submit stories if you're going to whine about stories that are submitted. Did someone force you to read this submission? Are you the kind of guy that bitches about the government but doesn't vote? - Xyphr, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9The entire point of Ubuntu is to be completely free/opensource with easy access to proprietary things... you make it seem like installing 'about a dozen' things is hard when in reality you just cut and paste from a howto. If you're going to review, do it right. Ubuntu is good out of hte box for productivity and media formats can be obtained easily and played in the Default gnome player or one can fetch VLC, or a huge array of other players out there. But yes It is all about preference some people think Click+Drag, Ctrl+C, Ctrl+Shift+V, Enter, Y. is too hard... some don't.
- xanik266, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8I was going to try Ubuntu, thanks to the flood of links, and then review it, but I ran into a snag...
I use WPA for my wireless network, and Ubuntu can't seem to handle it out of the box. So, I'm giving up until it does support it out of the box. Ubuntu does look promising, but it's not just for me yet.
(Side note: No, I'm not totally stupid and didn't take the time to look. I spent a good 2-3 hours looking for a simple way to fix the issue, to no avail. I still say that Linux just isn't ready for the tech-unsavy regular joe) - arsgeek, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Try this:
sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
Now log out. Log back in, left click on the Network Manager applett (upper right, by your clock) and choose "Connect to other wireless network". Enter your network's name (the SSID) and choose WPA. Put your password in and surf.
It's not exactly outta-the-box, but it isn' all that bad.
geek out - doodlebumm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5KDE or Gnome? user preference - I personally can't stand KDE for more than an hour or so.
Printing? simple enough, and I've never had to download a driver. I haven't set one up for a print server, though. I use networking devices to hook up my printers anyway.
Installing software? I think most things are easier in Ubuntu than WinXP, but that is also probably a user preference (or just better experiences).
Work in progress? yes, and a damn good one. I can't wait for it to kill off Windows (I hope anyway). - chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Gregd
Are you talking about the xserver-core update?
If so, simply go to the grub menu and select the newest kernal on recovery mode, login and then type:
Sudo apt-get update
Sudo apt-get upgrade
There was a bad version of xserver-core (1.24ubuntu 10.4 i believe), but it has been fixed by a newer version.
Hope that helps you. - willcode4beer, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10I don't know about Ubuntu but, "Mandriva" just sounds gay. I still say I use Mandrake.
- TRENT310, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"Didn't the command line go away in the 80s? I thought that died with DOS."
The difference is, in Linux/UNIX, you can do EVERYTHING in the command line without touching a GUI. Which is nice, for example, if you want to remote administer a system without using something as bandwidth intensive as VNC. In Windows, though you can't do everything on the command prompt emulator that it provides. I still find a shell more useful than going through menus in a GUI, for most tasks. Some things you have to do in a GUI, of course, such as image / video editing tasks. - TheTankengine, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6You use a wireless card in a SERVER?
Does this make sense to anyone else? - doodlebumm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6I haven't used Windows (any flavor) on my desktop for a couple of years. My laptop can dual boot, and I occasionally rdestop to a system, but I couldn't see ever going back to Windows either. I do plenty of stuff, too, Camcorder to DVD, webcams, documentation, wireless connectivity, multimedia, whatever. I have not reason to ever go back to Windows (especially Vista when it comes out). I'm going to sponsor a Ubuntu Install-a-thon soon to see how many people I can get converted to using a good OS. :)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I run a multi-ethnic household. My wife uses a Mac, b/c it's simplistic and straightforward. I use Slackware and Ubuntu (server version) for my home servers, and Windows personally for my desktop environment. Being that I'm a strong supporter of the open source movement (and a developer of open source AND proprietary software), I've battled with the fact that I use windows as my desktop machine. I justify this decision with the fact that windows offers a quicker solution to get what I need to do done, while also giving me the most flexibility with my current computer peripherals. While I do enjoy the satisfaction that comes from a nicely configured Linux desktop, I just don't have the time any more to properly tweak all the little nuances to my satisfaction.
I hope that the desktop version of Ubuntu can eventually meet all my needs for a desktop environment, and I hope it happens before support for XP ends. - sembetu, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6That is valid feedback, and from time to time, I do attempt to submit things I have not seen. And, while it is true that even though I have seen it on Wired, everybody may not have see it, you have to concede that a national magazine with the kind of readership is quite a bit more mainstream than what was originally so exciting about digg.
You know, I really didn't mean to hurt feelings, and I guess I could have made it more of an "observation", but seriously, ever since digg has become a "social phenomenon" I have seen more dupes, old news, etc than before.
Used to be, when someone called dupe, it was for good reason, but lately, you might as well scream "breathe!", since repeats, dupes, and old stories are that ubiquitous.
Besides, I never claimed to come here to submit, I did say I come here to read, so as far as me submitting better stories, that's probably not going to happen... but I will keep my eyes open for good stories. - int19h, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4You can use the GUI, commandline or both. One does not exclude the other.
- whalesalad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Seems like we have a new post about how great and amazing Ubuntu is every week, or more. Ubuntu isn't all that great....
- antitab, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7"Actually, WAV *is* Microsoft technology (jointly with IBM)."
Also from that article:
"Audio CDs do not use WAV as their sound format, instead using Red Book audio. The commonality is that both audio CDs and WAV files have the audio data encoded in PCM. WAV is a data file format for computer use. If one were to transfer an audio CD bit stream to WAV files and record them onto a CD-R as a data disc (in ISO format), the CD could not be played in a player that was only designed to play audio CDs." - underthewether, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6i recently tried the automatix script on my new ubuntu installation and it worked like a charm (installed the nvidia drivers and mp3 and dvd codecs). i think ubuntu should put something similar to this in their next release. that way the included packages would all be open source but if you want you can more easily install commonly used non open packages. i realize you could individually install everything automatix does using the built in package manager, but placing common program installation in one unit saves a lot of time and hassle.
- killin1a4, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6use vmware if you want to experment, the tools to allow the seamless mouse support and higher screen res. are easy enough to install.
- repruhsent, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I installed a box with Ubuntu during the last week. Canonical/Mark Shuttleworth/everyone else is going to have one hell of a time convincing me to ditch XP for it. It's still too ugly, too much of a hassle, and too rough around the edges.
So, I guess Ubuntu isn't for me. - V1ncent, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Convert to Linux NOW! If you thought you had problems before the switch...
- myFriendDerrik, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5This is why I use Automatix in Ubuntu, gets me all the codecs and programs I need to play sound/video plus a ton of extra programs and plugins for firefox. I'm really disappointed the article didn't mention this. With scripts like Automatix or EasyUbuntu there is no reason to ever have to go to the command line.
http://www.getautomatix.com/
http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - kdehead, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"Some things you have to do in a GUI, of course, such as image / video editing tasks."
you can do image editing/conversion stuff on the command line with ImageMagick. - alphanerd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I am a newly coneverted user but I have had previous linux experience with Mandrake and Redhat. It is by far the easiest to install and most user friendly however There are several reasons I will most likely go back to windows.
1) Lack of NTFS write ability even with the modified drivers it still unrealiable and I lost 300gb of data from my external USB drive
2) WPA is really flakey. Gnome network manager gets it working but its still half the speed of windows.
3) Firefox is clunky. It just runs smoother in windows
The only real pluses are no virus or spyware and amaroK - kdehead, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3good point.
notice how the SpiralFrog/Universal music download deal hasnt made the front page of Digg?
it should - its seriously a big story, whether you think its a load of crap or not. - pixelfox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Ubuntu is less Linux, in that Linux is for geeks by geeks. They at least try and be consumer friendly. But as a student who basically was a beta tester for Ubuntu all last year (and this year too, as my computer science teacher gets the versions before they are publicly released) it needs a lot of work to go anywhere. Still if I was to root for a Linux flavor, I would pick Ubuntu.
- Phocion55, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6This summarizes it all:
1.) Ubuntu Distro - Pretty good.
2.) Ubuntu Articles - Lame.
3.) Ubuntu Fanboys - Lamer.
'Nuff said.... - Frankie4Fingers, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5WAV is not what's used on audio CDs... that is just the format people usually use when ripping audio CDs and trying to get lossless quality out of them.
- kdehead, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"I don't know about Ubuntu but, "Mandriva" just sounds gay. I still say I use Mandrake."
same here. Mandriva is just a retarded name.
and the founder of Mandrake, Gael Duval, was actually fired by "Mandriva" a few months ago - he's working on Ulteo at the moment.
http://www.ulteo.com/main/ - raj3, on 10/12/2007, -11/+13"The best strategy for most people is to run Ubuntu on the side as a hobby, gradually learning its intricacies. "Try things out before you really need to do them, so you avoid panic," said Grant."
How reassuring. Not exactly the most convincing "Convert to Linux" article I've seen... - doodlebumm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Every time I've tried Fedora on a desktop I find numerous "critical defects" that make me immediately go another direction. I used Suse for a while (and liked it very much), but I settled on Ubuntu with Breezy last year, and Dapper is even better. Things work even better and more of my hardware is supported better (like my OLD webcam and an old windows-only memory card reader that now work with Dapper).
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