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- junaru, on 07/09/2008, -1/+98Should read "Introducing ONE OF MANY Linux user interfaces"
- oomfoofoo, on 07/09/2008, -12/+66It's not the Linux user interface. It's the GNOME desktop on one distro. Inaccurate. Buried.
- reisrocks, on 07/09/2008, -4/+58It's a very good point: it's easier for a windows user to migrate to linux than mac.
I've recently moved by girlfriend from Windows to Ubuntu.. her only confusion is the name of the applications have changed.. msn -> pidgin, excel -> spreadsheet.. etc.
Otherwise, she's perfectly adapted. - benologist, on 07/09/2008, -1/+41Should read "Yet another look at Ubuntu for those who read digg and tech blogs but somehow never saw it before".
- sirhomer, on 07/09/2008, -1/+39@belumaves
Yes.
Solitaire is serious *****. - robwilkens, on 07/09/2008, -9/+46Love the screenshots -- solitaire and calculator -- Straight out of Windows 3.1
- chronichyjinx, on 07/09/2008, -2/+33"As Mossberg describes it, there is no Mac equivalent to the task bar. The Dock comes the closest but it sounds more like the Windows Quick Launch toolbar in that it holds icons for the programs you use most often, rather than those running now."
It's pretty apparent this guy has never used OS X. - sirhomer, on 07/09/2008, -5/+35Actually GNOME's Solitaire game is vector based. This means the software works independent of resolution. Even Vista's 'improved' Solitaire is simply raster based, it just uses really big images. And it uses tons of RAM because of this. GNOME's game supports dozens of different types of solitare, while Windows only supports one solitare, Klondike.
The GNOME Calculator is quite advanced, it's capable of symbolic manipulation and it supports arbitrary precision (unlimited decimal places). It also has hundreds of built in functions. Comparing it to the Calculator in Windows (which hasn't changed much since Win 3.1), gcalctool is orders of magnitude more powerful. - belumaves, on 07/09/2008, -6/+30are you seriously bragging about the quality of the GNOME version of solitaire?
- darknephilim, on 07/09/2008, -3/+26Why? Does she get a lot of viruses when she's looking at porn?
- Konstantino, on 07/09/2008, -0/+22Yeah, it's a little ridiculous to write an article that compares Linux's migration to OS X's when the writer hasn't even touched OS X.
- StupotAce, on 07/09/2008, -3/+25I'm digging this despite the fact that it's title isn't perfectly accurate. People who only use Windows aren't going to read something entitled "Introducing one of the many linux user interfaces on one of the many linux distros". The whole point of this article was to show how ridiculously simple it is to switch to linux and the title keeps with that theme.
btw, I'm a KDE fan myself, but it's easier to convince a linux user to try KDE than a Windows user to try linux. Lets just keep things simple for them. - trogdor282, on 07/09/2008, -0/+21I set up Linux for my noob friend (he wanted a compy that "wouldnt get viruses when he looked at porn" lol) and i just changed the names of the icons to "almost aim" and "almost excel" and "almost nero" etc
- andymc1989, on 07/09/2008, -8/+26Is the guy purposefully trying to sound like an idiot, or is he really that clueless about Macs?
- hamobu, on 07/09/2008, -6/+23Calling Ubuntu Linux is like calling macOS X FreeBSD.
Linux is a kernel and not OS. Linux distributions are OS-es. Using the word Linux for every distribution seems to confuse people who wonder why they can't install RPM package on Ubuntu.
Other than that, I agree that every Linux distribution is way better than MacOS. - winmywii, on 07/09/2008, -0/+17What is he doing in a grave?
- mferrari3, on 07/09/2008, -0/+16He had no idea what OS X is, yet he tried to review it alongside Ubuntu. He explained the command key on Macs and got confused over the two symbols on it. The best part was when he couldn't figure out the difference between closing a window and quitting a program, he just assumed Mossberg meant minimized in some sort of cryptic Mac-fanboy language.
- benburned, on 07/09/2008, -6/+21A Linux user has a girlfriend?
- localzuk, on 07/09/2008, -1/+15Very inaccurate article. For example, his comment about .pls playlists. They are a generic filetype, and not restricted to music alone. I use .pls files for movie playlists too.
What if the pls file you were using opened in a music player and had movies in it? Wouldn't work. Opening a music playlist in a movie player would work, as it can play music and movies...
He also comments on OS X, something he hasn't used. How can he do this effectively? - MattBD, on 07/09/2008, -4/+17I moved from Windows to Kubuntu last year without a problem. By comparison, I've just bought a MacBook and I find the desktop an absolute bastard to use (and I've used Gnome, KDE, Xfce, E17 and Icewm).
- ZachSka87, on 07/09/2008, -5/+18Firefox 3 runs blazing fast when I boot into linux, MUCH slower when booting to Windows. I really have no idea what you're talking about.
- NJank, on 07/09/2008, -1/+14nice. I'll go make a suggestion over at openoffice.org that they rename their product almostoffice.org
- tmcdouga, on 07/09/2008, -0/+13Agreed...and for the rest of you who somehow haven't used the OS X interface, the Dock DOES show all the running programs in it. Programs already in the Dock get a marking showing they are running and non-permanent Dock icons appear in a separate section when they run. A better comparison would be a combination of the task bar and the quick launch bar.
Personally, I prefer having the universal menu bar at the top as in OS X. Having multiple menu bars only takes up valuable space - you can never use more than one at once. And on the Mac I know exactly where it is - the top of the screen. - lordtyros, on 07/09/2008, -2/+14My god this was a poorly written article. How do you become a technology reporter without having ever used a Mac? This guy wrote like a complete idiot.
- marx2k, on 07/09/2008, -0/+12Whoa... *backs away with hands up*
- localzuk, on 07/09/2008, -0/+11Don't like the default Ubuntu interface? Try KDE, XFCE, Fluxbox, Enlightenment (E16 or E17), blackbox, windowmaker, or one of the multitude of other interfaces.
Personally, I use Enlightnment E17. - dajuggernaut, on 07/09/2008, -3/+14am i the only one that thinks this article is just a bash on OS X?
- houndeyex, on 07/09/2008, -1/+12Hell, Linus Torvalds in married.
- dullnation, on 07/09/2008, -0/+9He h4xx0red the binary, decompiled the source and edited the resources. Where's my money?
- secrity, on 07/09/2008, -0/+8He said that there were many different Linux distros and he specified that he was speaking only about Ubuntu 8.04. He was a bit simplistic, but he had to be for the broader audience that he was writing for.
- brstilson, on 07/09/2008, -3/+11Or, "Introducing ONE OF THE TWO Linux user interfaces that anyone besides greasy-haired virgins in dark basements cares about"
- Stupidumb, on 07/09/2008, -1/+9GET BACK HERE, YOU *****
- kraetos, on 07/09/2008, -1/+9From a scientific usability standpoint, OS X's menu bars are the best, because they make the best use of Fitt's Law. Objects on the edge of the screen are easier to hit then anything else on the screen. The Windows Taskbar also gets this right, and the Start Menu does a wonderful job of this, because it's in the corner, which is effectively an infinitely-large target. (Like the Apple menu or Spotlight bar on a Mac.)
When you think about it, menu bars on windows make no sense. You end up having too many menu bars - some of them redundant, none of them easy (compared to OS X) to hit. It's one of those things that sticks around not because it's good, but because it's familiar. - BlueSkyfish, on 07/09/2008, -0/+7Rolling, obviously.
- DjArcadian, on 07/09/2008, -19/+25While Ubuntu is my preferred home computer operating system I don't think the interface is as a good as Windows XP or Mac OS. It has a kind of muddy response. The fact that Firefox 3 runs slower on Linux than Windows doesn't help.
- secrity, on 07/09/2008, -1/+7He specified that he was speaking only about Ubuntu 8.04, he also mentioned that there are many other distros and other variants of *buntu.
- sarchosis, on 07/09/2008, -0/+6This guy is second generation retarded. He seems to have gotten all his misinterpretations on OS X from Mossberg with his own stupid spin on them.
Why is it so hard to understand the point of closing a window and not the application? That's what hitting the X in OS X is for. I just hit Cmd+Q when I want to close an app, does Windows even have a shortcut like that? Ctrl+Q does nothing.
What's with the fascination of maximizing windows? Sure, there's value to it for applications that use the space, which do in fact take up the entire screen in OS X by default (Photoshop, Garage Band, etc.), but with most web pages you don't need the entire screen on a widescreen monitor, all you're getting is empty space on either side.
Linux's best UI features are the ones that aren't derived from Windows. - iofthestorm, on 07/09/2008, -0/+6I am intrigued by your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter. But seriously, LFS? That's awesome. I didn't think anyone on digg would actually do that.
- NJank, on 07/09/2008, -0/+6oh, trust me. she can really work that 'terminal'.
- LRoy12, on 07/09/2008, -0/+6haha. I like that idea. I should do that for my mom's pc
- itsYB3, on 07/09/2008, -1/+6He keeps quoting this Mossberg guy, and really had a hard time interpreting what Mossberg said. I don't know about anyone else, but i quite like putting my menu bars at the top. and looking at all my running applications (and the ones i run most) in my dock. Come on man, don't compare to OS X if you know nothing about it, and definately don't bash it like this. Buried.
- iDoraemon, on 07/09/2008, -1/+6"Never mind that you start off with a green circle in the upper left corner, clicking it results in a window size 'deemed optimal for its contents, which isn't always the whole screen.' Apparently Apple knows best."
The author doesn't realize that there is a more complicated historical reason behind this. While I prefer the way Windows does it, I can see valid arguments on the "true" maximum vs. "optimal" maximum window size. That argument is a whole 'nother can of worms though. - skidooer, on 07/09/2008, -0/+5I disagree. I switched to OS X from KDE and I found them to be eerily similar. The great thing was that I knew how to use OS X right out of the box because it was almost identical to my KDE system, just prettier.
- inactive, on 07/09/2008, -1/+6"Otherwise, she's perfectly adapted."
I'll say! Allllllllllll right... giggity. - belumaves, on 07/09/2008, -0/+5he did, try reading the article
- zakatov, on 07/09/2008, -0/+5If he has no idea how to use OSX (he said so himself), why even bother talking about it?
- carrtoonist, on 07/09/2008, -0/+5Purposely trying to sound like an idiot. His point is that its easier for a windows user to understand Linux then mac and he illustrates that point by speaking with confusion about the mac interface.
- stronglikedan, on 07/09/2008, -0/+5Linux Mint FTW! The Linux Mint interface has the most "Windows" like feel to it. This is important when trying to convert people from the dark side. My GF was not liking Ubuntu and was whining to be switched back, so I switched her to Mint instead and have heard nothing since. It's been about 2 weeks (or whenever 5 was released).
- Stupidumb, on 07/09/2008, -0/+5Show me where he said that Linux is a UI provider.
- sloppychris, on 07/10/2008, -0/+5Apparently linux users are now stereotyping ourselves. How far we've come.
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