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- Kam3k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"I drop in a textfield, name it, choose the CRUD functionality (is the data in the field for Creation of a record, Reading out from an existing record, Updating an existing record, Deleting a record) check the source. HTML headers and form already created with a generic target page. TARGET page already created with a form processing function to grab the value from the textfield and the sql to match the CRUD functionality specified. While this is perty and can be quick, it's not safe. Rails is nice for prototyping."
This statement barerly makes sense, you obviously know nothing about Rails. There's nothing unsafe about the way Rails generates SQL for you, unlike PHP where you have to make the effort to do things the right way (sanitizing the data going into your SQL for instance), Rails makes it easy to do it the right way, and looks after this stuff for you. Plus it activly encourages all manner of good practices such as unit testing and DRY compliance. There's nothing unsafe about Rails unless you program with it like an idiot.
As for why would you use it. That's very simple. You get the job done quicker, do it better (easier to maintain, less code), and have more fun in the process thanks to the Ruby language and beautifully designed API of Rails itself. - Scoota, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0What a waste of time! Any Debian/Ubuntu user will know how to apt-get an application.
- skxy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0A much more thorough article on doing this on Debian is here:
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/329 - joshpeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Why the hell do all you n00bs digg Rails stuff even when you don't know what it is. Just though Ajax or Web2.0 in the title and its instantly on the homepage.
- mtupker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0What exactly is this ruby stuff?
- bramkok, on 07/02/2009, -0/+0I've been fooling around all day with ruby it's quite nice but it's too bad that you got to have a hosting provider that runs a ruby
@ mtupker (& the rest):
these videos give you a good idea of what ruby stands for.
http://www.rubyonrails.org/screencasts
These videos are on MacOSX though, for a really good (the best I've read that is) tutorial on setting up ruby on rails:
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2005/01/20/rails.html - mapledream, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0A few real world applications written in Ruby on Rails:
http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/RealWorldUsage
Hosting providers:
http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/RailsWebHosts
http://www.antoniocangiano.com/articles/2006/01/01/rails-hosting
Official pages:
http://www.ruby-lang.org
http://www.rubyonrails.com - Ramble, on 10/12/2007, -0/+01. It's easy anyway, even if you don't know how to apt-get yet, there is still synaptic and also downloading.
2. Why would you want to actually use Ruby on Rails anyway? - bramkok, on 07/02/2009, -0/+0By the way correct me if i'm wrong. I would really like to make stuff with Ruby and put the results on my website.
- bramkok, on 07/02/2009, -0/+0"As for why would you use it. That's very simple. You get the job done quicker, do it better (easier to maintain, less code), and have more fun in the process thanks to the Ruby language and beautifully designed API of Rails itself."
That's my point. Of course it's less 1337 and blablabla but it gets you to your goal in a cleaner/faster way. And in my opinion (which is one of someone that hasn't got all the gold knowledge about programming in PHP and using MySQL queries) it's the goal that counts. - joshpeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0*though = throw
Can't type* - Kam3k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"not much in the way of searchable library documentation"
Actually Rails is very well documented now, http://api.rubyonrails.com
And the wiki is a very good source help. - dismorfo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0ALA website ( http://www.alistapart.com/ ) it's using RubyonRail as their new publishing platform. A good example for those wondering what this is all about and what it's the uses.
- nate007, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0dip dip dip
- Jack9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The top-end Rails frameworks allow you to design the layout and have the framework create the scripting (and HTML) and SQL at the time of creation.
I drop in a textfield, name it, choose the CRUD functionality (is the data in the field for Creation of a record, Reading out from an existing record, Updating an existing record, Deleting a record) check the source. HTML headers and form already created with a generic target page. TARGET page already created with a form processing function to grab the value from the textfield and the sql to match the CRUD functionality specified. While this is perty and can be quick, it's not safe. Rails is nice for prototyping.
Personally, I think it's a bad deal to press Rails as if it's a "generic" solution (much like Wiki is still marketed as a solid Encyclopedia) when each Rail package (PER LANGUAGE) is really a unique implementation that has to be tested and always revised before you could consider it for production.
no digg for contributing to stupidity. Why not post up a page promoting the newest chemical breakthrough in penis enlargement pills? - bramkok, on 07/02/2009, -0/+0"Why the hell do all you n00bs digg Rails stuff even when you don't know what it is. Just though Ajax or Web2.0 in the title and its instantly on the homepage."
I understand your worries. and of course you are saving the world and it's interwebs from evil hypes and other scary stuff. boohoo. but there's no web2.0 or Ajax in the title of this article :(. - CaughtThinking, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Rails cooks your meal apparently and cleans your toilet with Ajax. It's better than Jesus, David Heineken Hamburger said so.
- hornser, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"It seems there are a ton of simple "getting started" tutorials, but not much in the way of searchable library documentation; which I think is far more important."
Thats a really good point. I suspect that as more people really dig into rails we will be seeing more information like that. - drdrifter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0+digg for maximum use of web buzz words.....only thing missing is AJAX.
- Herolint, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If you have ever developed a large web app using PHP and then tried Ruby on Rails, you know why Rails is such an interesting framework. Ruby is an excellent framework for developing web apps, but it isn't without its warts.
The two problems with Ruby on Rails that I see are it is a pain in the arse to set up correctly and it lacks good documentation. If PHP's documentation were a Webster's Dictionary, then Ruby's documentation would be a fortune cookie slip.
It seems there are a ton of simple "getting started" tutorials, but not much in the way of searchable library documentation; which I think is far more important. - delta013, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0/me wonders what the heck rails is.
Don't answer that, I know how to use google when I want to find out. - delta013, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0/me comes back after some reading.
So basically this is like the open-source equivalent of MS .Net Framework? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0***** this
- pointlessaudio, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0cool
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