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- PhirePhly, on 10/10/2007, -2/+63That actually doesn't fix the problem of upgrading every 6 months, but I have a hella of an easier solution, use a CD-RW. I've burned, used, erased, and reused the same CD maybe 25 times.
- MrSelfDestruct, on 10/10/2007, -2/+50What if you haven't got a computer? Huh what will you do?
- qwuinc, on 10/10/2007, -1/+43Indeed, that's windows-specific. Out of curiosity - why would you reinstall the distribution just to upgrade to the newest release? Any distro with proper package management can upgrade from older releases to new ones without going through full reinstallation...
- Stonekeeper, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19I stopped at "Now download the file called grub4dos".
- kodek, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17Title says it all? Then why post a link? Just post the article in the title.
- Subassy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13What to do if you don't have a DVD writer: spend $30 on a DVD writer.
- defrex, on 10/10/2007, -6/+16A clean install results in a faster OS. Many prefer it due to errors that may occur with an upgrade.
... I just had to. - MrSelfDestruct, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Kernel. Not kernal.
- Roger, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I think Subassy is offering you $30.
- LegendarySock, on 10/10/2007, -7/+14A clean install is results in a faster OS and many prefer it due to errors that may occur with an upgrade install.
- yevkasem, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6if your computer supports booting from usb, you can do something similar to this without having to mess with your hard disk at all - just use a thumb drive.
- wired4u, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6it takes a whole 4 minutes for me to burn a dvd, plus its good to have the dvd handy in care you need to reinstall from a bad hdd crash. Dvds are dirt cheap anyways with a pack of 100 going for 20 bucks
- MBHoy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6"and worse, almost every Linux distro comes up with a new release every 6 months. So if you are in the habit of upgrading to every new version, you must have dozens of CDs lying at the bottom of your drawer. What a wastage of CDs!"
1. Upgrade using apt, yum or your distributions equivalent. No need to burn a CD.
2. a wastage?!?! - HalFTW, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Yes, if you have another PC already, and know what you are doing.
- HalFTW, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Most distros provide for booting via PXE. All you need one box (Windows, Linux or otherwise) with a tftp and dhcp server and you are good to go.
No need for a pre installed OS on the PC. Also once you have setup the PXE system it is trivial to change what is booted from it. You can also use PXE to boot any floppy disk image, negating the need for floppy drives on new PCs.
Here are a couple of links for PXE booting instilation of Ubuntu and OpenSUSE:
http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
http://en.opensuse.org/SuSE_install_with_PXE_boot - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5from like saving 25 cents. Way to go. Woohoo.
- technobabble042, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Uhm... Use 5 CD-RWs. Buy a new optical drive. I think it's pretty nonsensical at this point in time to have a computer without an optical drive. Oh, or I could just install it to a flash drive, and use that. But wait, what if I don't have a flash drive? Damn, now I'm stuck.
Wait. What if I don't have Windows?! - Pfhor, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5"Wait. What if I don't have Windows?!"
I know it was sarcasam, but after skimming TFA, it sounds like this *may* also be this may also be possible using ReactOS. - NoTiG, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Here are two easier methods: http://wubi-installer.org/ - which installs inside your windows partition. Slight speed cost
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=427540 - much easier way to diskless install - nobogeys217, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5wear a big jacket to best buy. duh.
- neodorian, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4It's a tablet, dingus. It's supposed to be small.
- neodorian, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4This is good for me. I have a laptop with no optical drive and up until now, I've just been using Wubi, but that only lets me install a few flavors of Ubuntu. I had suspected there was a way to just have the install cd on a partition and install from that but I wasn't sure how.
- kaczus, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Or you can get a "rolling-release", like Arch Linux where all you do is update. No need for "releases".
- sspooner, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3"Back in the day" to you means 5 years ago by the sounds of it. "Back in the day" to me means sitting infront of a PDP "washing machine" and toggle switch loading the boot code and using old punched card as coasters.
- neodorian, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3It doesn't say secret. It just says "Install any Linux distro..." and that's what's in the link.
Buried. Cocky douchenozzle. - marx2k, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Get out of the Windows mindset. You don't need to periodically reinstall Linux. Managed correctly (and it's hard to mismanage, really), it should be running as fast and problem free as when you first installed it
- HsoKinees, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Chedabob - did you happen to use Automatix during any of your installations before upgrading? i hear it's a killer, heh
- daphreak, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Wish I had read this yesterday. For some reason syslinux took some tweaking before it would work on my external drive.
- daphreak, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Genius! Why didn't I think of that? Since your computer will obviously boot from a virtual drive you set up before you shut down...
- iceschade, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Hmm... If you read Digg with any frequency you know that there are TONS of uses for old, unused CDs rather than tossing them out. For example... I've taken all of the AOL cd's I was ever sent, plus all of the old *nix and Windows CDs I don't use anymore, and I've wallpapered my room with them. Now, I've got mirror-walls. Very pretty.
- Murdats, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1yes, but cd's are a waste of time, they are slow and cumbersome.
id rather do anything else then waste my time on burning a cd - iceschade, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Of course, this doesn't help when you're installing to more than one computer. Do this fifty times for your classroom? No, thanks. Yes, you could ghost... But what if teaching your students how to install Ubuntu is part of the class? Or... What if you don't want to have to download the latest ISO every time you wanted to install? Burn the CD and you can hand it to your friends or quickly clone it or have it handy when your computer needs a fresh install...
The advantages of this technique are few in comparison to the advantages of having a CD of the system.
Neat trick, but I'm not going to put it into frequent use.
Especially since this process requires M$ Windows to work.
Windows should never be necessary to install Linux. And for those of us without Windows? What then? Do we go buy it? Do we install Windows every time we want to install Linux? What a hassle. I'll take my OS-Independent Linux ISOs any day. You can burn them from any computer with a cd burner. - MyIQ, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I understand your concern, and I am happy that you are willing to give up your computer to save the planet. If more people were like you, willing to not buy cds for music, not buy dvds, not have a TV, not use your air conditioning, etc., just because of the harm that they cause to the environment. I seriously admire your resolve. It's too bad that more people aren't like you. I know that MY lifestyle won't change -- I'll go right on, blindly consuming, watching TV, playing on my computer, burning CDs, and buying more when I am through with those.
You are a fine example, giving everything up. I know that we won't see you online again, what with the carbon costs of the electricity that your computer uses (used?). My hat is off to you, where ever you may be -- probably siting in the dark, or reading a (gasp) BOOK by candle light.
Good night, and good luck. - nicko68, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1^^^^
Digg-- for Unoobu
God forbid there's a Linux distribution that is user-friendly. - webtroy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2dvd's are 10cents each. I love linux, but you give us linux fans a bad name by constantly re-enforcing how cheap we are! ;)
- amfantasy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I'm not sure whats wrong with your tablet but I think you may want to invest in a new computer, or at least buy a usb cdrom
- LLauranzonIII, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2i say burn the cd/dvd and then give it to a friend. spread linux!!!!!
- muszek, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I've installed Hoary Hedgehog (5.04) as a newbie (maybe 2 months of experience running other distros) and haven't done a re-install on my main box since. Dist upgrades weren't always flawless (they broke X twice, once of whichc was due to ATI not supporting my card anymore; once it broke my custom networking scripts... nothing that required more than half an hour of google'ing). 5.04 -> 5.10 -> 6.06 -> 6.10 -> 7.04. Fresh installs would take much more time (given all the crap that I need installed and properly configured).
- Exploit, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1The site updated with support for Linux as the pre installed OS.
- codyman, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I just use CD-RW's and label them accordingly such as: "Ubunutu Latest i386" "Ubuntu Latest x64" "Kubuntu Latest i386".... and in terms of how I remember whats the latest, I always just download the latest stable version, erase and burn when its released...
- Murdats, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1whoosh!
- neodorian, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2This tablet will not boot to a typical USB optical. It has to be a specific brand. I believe there is a way to make a bootable floppy image on an SD card and boot to that and then access the usb drive, but still, putting the install files on a partition sounds much easier. If I ever want to delete the Ubuntu I have running through Wubi, I'll probably try this way next.
- zhulien, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2so, the second time around after Windows has been replaced with Linux, what are the steps to follow? so far we've perhaps saved 1 CD assuming Windows was already installed.
- neodorian, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I use Wubi on my laptop but you're limited as far as what distro and also, it's running on the NTFS partition. I learned the hard way that you don't want to hard reset your linux install if it's running on the NTFS partition. I had the pleasure of remove the hdd from my tablet and attaching it to my desktop just to fix the hard drive (only needed chkdsk but that's tough with no floppy, optical, or working hard drive to boot to).
- aaronm67, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2...it's certainly possible using ReactOS, or any Linux distro. Step by step:
1) Same as in the article, except you're probably using ext3, which all modern distros support.
2) Mount your iso (mount /spot/where/your/iso/is /spot/to/mount -o loop), copy the files mentioned in the article.
3) Just like the article, except instead of "C:/Boot" it's probably just "/boot"
4) You should already have Grub installed, skip step 4
5) Replace "C:/boot" with "/boot"
6) Your computer should already boot into grub. Skip 6
7) Same as the article. - daverave999, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1That must drive the ladies wild.
- texnofobix, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I use Gentoo. Install once, upgrade many.
- tech42er, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Ah. I too remember the mid-90's. ;)
- neodorian, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Right. Then they all just go poof and never come back.
- TexanPsycho, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Reply. ***** reply. Idiot.
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