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- Onestone, on 10/10/2007, -1/+32I, for one, welcome our new compositing managers
- jesusfranco, on 10/10/2007, -2/+18The desktop environment is in beta dude, calm down
- eqisow, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12It's really good to see compositing being added to KWin. The Compiz WM just doesn't integrate into KDE the way it should. In fact, lack of KDE integration is the only thing that keeps me from running composite.
Well, that and the performance of 3D apps. - coldphoenix, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12damn close? its got til december
- monikerd, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10I don't believe it's kwin's intention to "compete" with compiz fusion. It's just expanding the current windowmanager by using features wich are now available. compiz fusion is C, kwin C++, so they probably won't be copying too much code verbatim. And the entire framework etc are different afaik.
I believe kwin aims to be a lot more stable and conservative, than the somewhat over enthusiastically developed compiz fusion, but that might just my opinion though.
By no means is kwin a control pannel for compiz. - stephenwq, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Can someone give a comparison and explaination between this and other compositing window managers such as beryl or compiz? Are they rewriting or copying code? Or is this just a KDE control panel of it?
Compiz fusion looks great with the new merge and lots of new effects, but will Kwin be trying to 'compete' with it? - schestowitz, on 10/10/2007, -5/+11Wow. This shows some really amazing KDE4 stuff and nice artwork too, e.g. http://bp3.blogger.com/_3ONM3XBfS0M/RvUdP9KJxpI/AA ...
- stephenwq, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Thanks for a bit of clarification. 'Compete' is in quotes to say that they won't actually compete, but they will be two things which serve similar purposes.
And will you be able to run Beryl/Compiz on KDE4 without hassle? - keyo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Looks great, it doesn't need to be overly powerful.
I wish they'd change the widget style, it needs way more contrast. Most of the oxygen stuff is ten times better than the old kde3 themesBut hey, it's open source, someone will rerelease it. - leinir, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Well, as a bit of further clarification, when Lubos started doing KWin Composite, he did try looking into using both Beryl and Compiz plugins. The problem with those, however, is that neither really has a plugin API as we know it, rather they expose everything internal to their plugins. As such Lubos would have had to reimplement the entire stack verbatim, and that is just not very nice.
You should be able to run Beryl/Compiz on KDE4 just fine, but... i don't see why you would, really - creating effects for KWin Composite is apparently very easy (judging by the amount of plugins that's already there) - MrTea, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Nice. I hope that modularization is a higher priority than eye candy, though.
- HonoredMule, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Dialogues like that DO demonstrate bad decisions that shouldn't have ever taken place from the onset. Whoever put that dialogue up could have just as easily made it correctly (Keep / Discard) in the first place, unless the underlying libraries are seriously flawed.
No one should EVER make a dialogue with a Yes/No/Cancel trifecta as the feedback options, and doing so isn't a "bug" to be hammered out, it's just an ordinary bad decision. - Fergy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1All those KDE4 screenshots make it seem that KDE is finally losing the ugly. Though http://bp2.blogger.com/_3ONM3XBfS0M/RvUU5tKJxmI/AA ... still shows the very ugly scrollbox on the left.
- HonoredMule, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I do hope that goes away.
- neoneddy, on 12/27/2007, -0/+1http://autoglasstoday.com
good auto glass - ThatsNotPudding, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Everything still has to have a K it's name and a K gear emblazoned on every facet of the GUI. Just silly.
- tehmoth, on 10/10/2007, -6/+0this is a linux* desktop environment, of course not. The more eye candy, the more they feel they are competing with Vista and Leopard.
*yes i know. - amfantasy, on 10/10/2007, -12/+1overlords
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -16/+1Beta or not, it's damn close to being released. It should have been more polished by now.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -19/+4http://bp0.blogger.com/_3ONM3XBfS0M/RvUSaNKJxlI/AA ...
Is this supposed to be the latest in Linux UI?
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