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- sharigan, on 02/17/2008, -12/+94true professional presentation don't uses any animations.
- talonstriker, on 02/17/2008, -4/+80now update the user interface of Writer and I'll ditch MS Office.
- PicklePower, on 02/17/2008, -2/+56or they do, but they do so with restraint and careful consideration.
- supermajic, on 02/17/2008, -7/+58I think I tried some 3D plugin for PowerPoint presentations back in middle school. It looked like these - really tacky. Oh god it reminds me of the time when people littered animated gifs all over there presentations just because they could.
- puelocesar, on 02/17/2008, -35/+83Well, that's good, but apple's iwork has done this years ago (and with much more quality: http://www.apple.com/iwork/keynote ). For me office tools are the only area that is very behind proprietary ones..
But I don't need office apps, so.. whatever - lovekudu, on 02/17/2008, -25/+70Sure, but iWork doesn't support OpenDocument, runs only on OS X, and AFAIK can't do Flash exports like OpenOffice.
- slkuhn, on 02/17/2008, -0/+29FTA
"You can also download the video above as a DivX AVI in 640x480. The stutter is the fault of the recording software, but the transitions actually play smoothly in OpenOffice.org." - puelocesar, on 02/17/2008, -12/+36Flash export? Are you talking about swf? Of course it can!
And there's much more, like professional quality default templates, easy to use, video presentation export, and many other.. I think Keynote is some years ahead Ms and Sun - Audacitor, on 02/17/2008, -2/+26I wouldn't say Apple is ahead of Microsoft, as for as features go, but iWork is definitely way more intuitive. It does everything Office does with fewer button and a more compact interface. And Keynote's transitions look like they came from this millennium, unlike Office.
- StanStutter, on 02/17/2008, -9/+32"For me office tools are the only area that is very behind proprietary ones."
Behind!?!?
OpenOffice is an advanced and modern office suite. Like most modern applications, it is multi-platformed capable. Unlike most proprietary applications, it is designed with portability in mind.
Another hallmark of a modern application: standards compliant formats. Standards compliance leads to superior interoperability with other applications, that is a feature of a forward-looking design. Proprietary document formats are an artifact from the '80's. No modern document should be made in a non-compliant format. OpenOffice's interface is clean and functional, the average office worker doesn't have to swim through a lot of "mystery meat" features that were added to justify an upgrade price.
On the other hand, iwork is an old fashioned office suite. - colincornaby, on 02/17/2008, -12/+35So it's like Keynote from four years ago?
- stalefries, on 02/17/2008, -0/+19Or how about writing whole paragraphs AS BULLET POINTS and then reading them off of the slide.
- Bamborzled, on 02/17/2008, -0/+19I may sound like an Apple fanboy (I'm actually using Windows right now), but Steve Jobs' keynotes are always great in the use of animations and presentation style.
- colincornaby, on 02/17/2008, -3/+20Leopard has built in support for OpenDocument. As of Leopard, any program using the standard text handling API's can open an OpenDocument file. I think the issue with Pages is they haven't updated it to make .odt a recognized file type. Also of note, the same API's can also handle Microsoft's OpenXML documents.
- Craga89, on 02/17/2008, -3/+20+Digg to that. I love OpenOffice and use it for all my documents and presentations, but the interface needs an overhaul badly. I hate to say it, but it feels like I'm using a pre-release version of Office 97 sometimes... especially when handling large documents with lots of shapes and pictures.
- Bamborzled, on 02/17/2008, -12/+29"Behind!?!?"
Yes, it's behind in one of the most important aspects of software:
Polish. OpenOffice.org looks like a thousand things flying towards me at once. In the meantime, iWork looks great and has a great interface. MS Office used to look like a hundred things flying towards me at once; now it's gotten a lot better. Don't let zealotry overcloud reason. - PeerlessThought, on 02/17/2008, -2/+16Well I think they were very well done. Open Office is a great suit of programs and it is free. The article said that the transitions are smooth and the choppy playback is due to the capture software. I for one have just really started giving Open office a chance and refusing to upgrade to Office 2007. I own Office 2003 and think it is more than enough for me. Now I have a free suit that I like and recommend to my friends. I for one welcome the software that is free and worked on by the community so you can get updates at a faster pace than four to five year product cycles.
- DaffyDuck, on 02/17/2008, -14/+27Is it just me or are the animations not very smooth?
- inactive, on 02/17/2008, -1/+13The things that pass for "impressive" and "candy" these days.
- virtualball, on 02/17/2008, -0/+12It can also export to ppt, mov, images, PDF, HTML, and for an iPod.
Seriously, Keynote is miles ahead of ppt. It has the alpha control which allows for easy masking, smart builds which allow for professional image in-slide slideshows, amazing traditions and beautiful themes. - argylesocks, on 02/17/2008, -2/+13I was going to say it looks like an Apple sort of thing, but I really like it and I can't wait to use it.
- Audacitor, on 02/17/2008, -1/+12OOo probably doesn't have quite as many developers as some other open source projects do. I mean, where's the fun in developing a word processor? I'd much rather spend my time working on Blender, or GIMP, or Firefox.
- djsim, on 02/17/2008, -0/+11"Oh god it reminds me of the time when people littered animated gifs all over there presentations just because they could."
Oh God I still see people do this. It pisses me off big time. - mossblaser, on 02/17/2008, -0/+11Apple is a good example of how to do public speaking: lively and well performed and planned. Apple keynotes are a joy to watch, even if I wouldn't touch MacOS with a barge pole.
- cornflakepirate, on 02/17/2008, -0/+10To be fair, quite a few GNU project (e.g. GCC) are like that too - you have to assign ownership to the FSF. But you're right, Sun is just not doing a good job of getting the community involved in development - compare the openoffice.org web site against Launchpad and you'll see what I mean
- argylesocks, on 02/17/2008, -1/+11When integrated properly and sparsely in a presentation these could add a nice touch. As long as people don't go overboard.
- argylesocks, on 02/17/2008, -1/+11Depends who you are presenting to. That is a very general statement about professionals. I would use a couple of the transition shown sparsely and carefully. But then I'm a graphic designer so I know how not to go overboard.
- mississippiman, on 02/17/2008, -0/+10alot of those look just like the ones in iWork 08
- DigitAl56K, on 02/17/2008, -2/+12"Impressive eye candy", are you kidding me? I don't like bagging on open-source projects, but they put in OpenGL support and that is the best they came up with? These transitions are similar to the ones coming standard in GIF animator software ten years ago. I hope this is for early demo purposes only.
- Daniel591992, on 02/17/2008, -0/+9A simple fade in or fade out animation is nice.
- puelocesar, on 02/17/2008, -1/+10Hey, you can do a lot of fun stuff on office tools, just take a look at iWork webpage.
I think the problem with OOo is Sun. AFAIK, they doesn't accept patches to OOo if the developer give the rights of the modification to Sun, so they can sell it with StarOffice and Sun appears very bureaucratic to work with. These things drive aways open source talent, and that's why OpenOffice is so ugly, chuncky and lacking innovation. - StanStutter, on 02/17/2008, -5/+14You are suggesting that I'm a zealot because I believe that interoperability and multi-platform capability are advanced features found in modern software.
You don't think that your reasoning is cloudy even though you can't see beyond the "looks" of the interface.
I don't think either of us is a zealot, but I think one of us is shallow. - puelocesar, on 02/17/2008, -1/+10Sun guys are not very good at design at all.. They could at least pay some company to make a good interface...
I think IBM Symphony will be a good option in this regard, but it will take some time before it's ready for use.. KOffice2 will be good sometime, but I don't know how good will be it's features.. - bobbybobington, on 02/17/2008, -1/+9lol I don't remember slide reflections in 1995. Oh, it must be because I was still using windows 3.1. That MUST be it.
- frsrblch, on 02/17/2008, -0/+8I'd take animated GIFs over having every word sling onto the page accompanied by the bullet sound.
- ahz1, on 02/17/2008, -2/+10Sorry, my computer just isn't fast enough to play the transitions AND record them smoothly. :)
- inactive, on 02/17/2008, -0/+7if people are falling asleep during your powerpoint, no amount of eyecandy will save it.
Powerpoint is an evil, evil tool that encourages boring presentations. You're usually better off making some hand-written notecards, and having just a small handful of slides (5 or less) for large, complex diagrams that you can reference throughout the talk, maybe a few "outline" slides that show what you will be talking about in the next couple of minutes.. And, NEVER read your powerpoint slides verbatim, it's redundant, and a waste of either slides or breath. If you want the information in written form so people can read instead of having to listen, then that's for making handouts.
The best (entertaining *and* informative) presentations i've ever seen had no more than 2 or 3 slides. - justiceape, on 02/17/2008, -6/+13WOW OH MY GOD THAT'S AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! . . . . . . !!!!
- nailer, on 02/17/2008, -0/+7You can edit TeX in OpenOffice 3.
- nailer, on 02/17/2008, -2/+8colincornaby: OK, so the point stands: iWork doesn't open OpenDocument.
- Soulbow2, on 02/17/2008, -0/+6Unfortunately, nobody ever taught the teachers that animated GIFs are annoying. My teacher last semester would take off points for not using awful animations.
- lava, on 02/18/2008, -1/+7Yeah, behind, and it's not simple and straightforward. I have to launch Writer to edit settings for Base. That's ***** stupid. All the applications are way too tied together. I really want to set Illustrator-like (yeah, I know that's not office software, but still) shortcuts for Draw, and it's just impossible.
- inactive, on 02/17/2008, -0/+6i dont think most people use transitions
- argylesocks, on 02/17/2008, -3/+9Buried for being a troll
- freakguy54321, on 02/17/2008, -10/+15so for the transitions they basically copied keynote
- cbdgr, on 02/17/2008, -0/+5got to record raw to a dedicated hard drive then encode :)
- Ryosen, on 02/17/2008, -0/+5FTA: The choppiness in the video is from the recording software, not the Impress transition itself. Perhaps if you had used free software and spent the money for your "paid" software on lessons in reading comprehension, you could have saved yourself some embarrassment.
- Henwood, on 02/17/2008, -1/+6What wonderful affects, those sleepy faces will soon become sickened faces. Tasteless.
- povv, on 02/17/2008, -0/+5the best transition ever is no transition
- inactive, on 02/17/2008, -4/+9If you rely on grammar check, you've got a problem.
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