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- crazyjake, on 09/18/2008, -29/+98why???
is there going to be an app out soon that will let me get a BSOD too?? - tbredofsin, on 09/19/2008, -3/+56To those asking why:
Web design. If you can't figure it out from there, you probably shouldn't be commenting on tech-related articles. - Jackinloadup, on 09/19/2008, -2/+53as a web developer, this is awesome! It allows me to test my website in IE without dual booting or virtualizing windows at all. therefor removing more M$ from my life.
Anyone using this for daily browsing can go to hell. - inactive, on 09/18/2008, -10/+43Great, then I'll have to somehow install Spybot in Ubuntu...
- gdonald, on 09/19/2008, -1/+25ie4linux is ancient.. welcome to the internets, it has.. stuff.
- manacit2, on 09/19/2008, -3/+26This can be useful if you are a web designer or something similar, and you need to make sure your site works in IE5/5.5/6
- dazparkour, on 09/19/2008, -0/+13It says WHY. If you are developing a website you STILL need to make sure not to alienate your big clients. From the inside - I'll tell you something - an Administrator who images 1,000 PCs in several large offices WILL NOT go to the trouble of installing Firefox - If you build something for them, they will all think YOUR website is broken, NOT their browser.
If you want money from these large companies - you better work with IE.
I hate it, but it's true. - smotpoker, on 09/19/2008, -0/+12I had to use ie4linux for two college courses last year :(. One of the sites used heavy ActiveX and the school's network used all MS tech so we had to use IE to access class BBS and student email (two of the "advantages" of colleges getting discounts for teaching MS classes)
- macaholic, on 09/19/2008, -2/+13Just so everyone knows, this project hasn't been updated for almost 2 years, and can be REALLY buggy.
- directrix13, on 09/19/2008, -0/+10so correct it.
- seventhc, on 09/19/2008, -0/+8This is good for web devs, but IE4Linux has been around for a while. This is not new and I'm sure the people who would actually need it already know about it.
If you're not a web developer then there really is no reason to use this.
Are there people out there using Linux that miss using IE? I highly doubt it. Hell even when I first started using computers I wasn't using IE and I didn't even know what I was doing. I went straight to Netscape and then to Mozilla once that became available. - DiscoUnderpants, on 09/19/2008, -1/+7@Mudrats
What year are you posying from? FIrefox currently has about 40% of market share. ANyone coding web apps for IE only these days is an idiot. - SSUK, on 09/19/2008, -1/+6Oh come on Digg, most of these comments come from people who haven't even read the description of the Digg submission. So allow me to spell things out for you:
No Linux user would really WANT IE on their machines, not in the same way they would want to use Firefox for instance. They only have to because IE is the predominant browser out there. If site developers like it or not. You could make the world's most W3C compliant website, with the world's tidiest HTML and CSS ever. You STILL have to test it in IE because it has weird and magical ways of ***** up all that hard work you've done.
If you're a professional web designer, who has clients who have waiting customers. They aren't going to give a ***** if your site only renders correctly in Firefox for such and such reasons, with the excuse that everyone should switch to Firefox. All they'll see is a broken website and that's what 9 out of 10 of those visitors will also think.
All this application does is extend that opportunity to Linux users, who don't have free access to IE without installing Windows or using someone else's PC, but then it's not very easy to spot critical flaws in your design early on and make adjustments while nothing else relies on that flawed part of your website.
(Note: 'flawed' and 'broken' are IE's fault. Not yours. But you still have to fix them.) - diggerpleez, on 09/19/2008, -0/+5The *only* reason I run IE at all is compatibility testing. As much as we all hate it, over 60% of the internet still uses it. We can write the cleanest slickest HTML4.0 compatible site using our native tools and FF, then look at it in IE and shed tears at the way MS simply ignores/reinterprets the box model.
That said, IEs4Linux kind of sucks IMO. I am a much bigger fan of using some stripped down pirated copy of Windows XP (Lite) inside a VM and running both IE6 and IE7 on it. Turn it on when I need it. Forget about it when I don't. - patnsmith, on 09/19/2008, -5/+10There are loads of on-line tools to check what your site looks like in all versions of internet explorer. You don't need to install a buggy version of it on Linux.
- Lochie, on 09/19/2008, -3/+85 and 5.5?! No thanks.
- 0x1d, on 09/19/2008, -0/+5If you don't need the whole action JS and DOM, and only check XHTML/CSS, try http://browsershots.org/ instead.
- DestroyFascism, on 09/19/2008, -1/+5So many still use IE 6....WHY!!! WHY~!~~~~~!!!!
- nickpick, on 09/19/2008, -1/+5C
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! - int10h, on 09/19/2008, -1/+5They already did: http://www.linuxgenuineadvantage.org
- directrix13, on 09/19/2008, -0/+4This is running a Windows app. Wine is not really that buggy. Its just incomplete.
- Gavagai80, on 09/19/2008, -0/+4Good luck testing what a javascript menu looks like on mouseover on one of those sites.
- l33tmike, on 09/19/2008, -4/+8OLD NEWS
- Thorpe, on 09/19/2008, -2/+6I'm good with Mozilla Firefox. However, I can see from a development standpoint, that this is useful.
- Murdats, on 09/19/2008, -4/+8your right, who needs access to their money?
its not uncommon for banks and the like to be IE only.
and way to present yourself as an enlightened and mature person by using M$ - MWeather, on 09/19/2008, -0/+3"Programming a standards compliant application is just as easy as programming for one specific browser nowadays."
The problem comes when one specific browser isn't standards compliant and makes up a large part of the user base. Coding a standards compliant page isn't going to do any good in that case.
Thankfully the largest install base is now Firefox, unless you count IE6, 7 and 8 as the same browser despite the rendering differences. - RonnieW, on 09/19/2008, -0/+3Get a VM already
- angryfirelord, on 09/19/2008, -0/+3I think the better solution is to run Windows XP slimmed down with n-Lite in a VirtualBox session. Sure, you're still using Windows, but it will at least allow you to test pages with IE without worrying about it crashing or running into some strange bug in wine and you can still run your linux distro at the same time.
- MeatyMcBeef, on 09/19/2008, -0/+3Why for it's stability and interoperability with other platforms as well as it's truly marvelous adoption of web standards of course.
- juliohm, on 09/19/2008, -0/+3I did install this a while back on my Ubuntu... but honestly... it's been sitting around for months now. Never really use it. Too lazy to remove :P
- wrek, on 09/18/2008, -1/+4This DOES work, however it is a bit buggy. I find that some sites only let me in once when using this IE method. I have to find all traces of IE and manually kill them in order to get back into the IE only website a second time. A bit of a problem but I wrote a little .sh script to kill the processes, though it also doesn't work 100%.
- CalcProgrammer1, on 09/19/2008, -1/+4Good for developers, but seriously, If I was going to write a site and it didn't work right in IE, I'd laugh and slap a "Get Firefox" link on the page. Coding to work with that Microsoft scum that rips pages apart for no reason is why 70% of the Internet is still on IE6 or earlier. If they can't view pages maybe they'll get it through their heads that they need to get IE7 or Firefox. IE6 is outdated, past its working life. Let the thing die already, we don't need half the Internet running on ancient technology when they can upgrade for free.
- nickpick, on 09/19/2008, -1/+4Murdats: So you can't do any eBanking if you have a Mac? That's spiffy.
- latrosicarius, on 09/19/2008, -0/+3You got it backwords there buddy.
The goal isn't to develop IE under linux so it works with more websites.
It's to develop websites under linux so you can check if your site works under IE, without having to use windows.
Unfortunately, the linux IE is old, buggy, and lacks support; not to mention there are plenty of other tools (not even including a VM or WINE) that will do the same thing, rather than installing this piece of crap on your linux box. - Icetype, on 09/19/2008, -0/+3T
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. - DestroyFascism, on 09/19/2008, -2/+5FTA
IE6 is still a capable browser and is supported on XP SP2 until 2010.
Goody!
a capable browser? Capable of over 25 bugs and ignoring basic math...
24 + 1 = 23 Retarded nuff nuff... - VLADOCAR, on 09/19/2008, -1/+4WTF! Why? We have Firefox!
- Jackinloadup, on 09/19/2008, -0/+2thats what i do. THANKS TinyXP!
- yurimxpxman, on 09/19/2008, -1/+3I'm not going to bow down to Microsoft's broken web standard support. If it doesn't work in a browser that passes the Acid 2 test, I'm not going to support it. I'll just slap a Firefox sticker on the front and move on. If we all do this, Microsoft will lose.
- spydon, on 09/19/2008, -0/+2link please!
- Jackinloadup, on 09/19/2008, -0/+2As a side note. you can get the BSOD screensaver, so you can spend your free time basking in its glory.
- nlight, on 09/19/2008, -0/+2But why would anyone want to do a thing like that?
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T - apalys, on 09/19/2008, -6/+8Ahh. Ok. But seriously... why?
- samthurston, on 09/19/2008, -5/+7wow.
This just in: IE is buggy. Also, water is wet. Film at 11. - stoperror, on 09/19/2008, -4/+6I suddenly feel very ill.
- patnsmith, on 09/19/2008, -3/+5double click in the grey next to an open tab in firefox and it opens a new window or press ctrl + t.
- sodade, on 09/19/2008, -0/+2I'll tell you why: just last night I realized that my plan of switching my wife's PC to Ubuntu was flawed because some of the work sites she uses require IE.
- carlosauresrex, on 09/19/2008, -0/+2but why would anyone go out of their way to screw themselves?
- evanct, on 09/19/2008, -0/+2I don't even bother fixing bugs in IE6 anymore. it's too much of a hassle, and if you want to view the site in a browser that's two versions oudated, that's your problem.
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