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- MickeyPo, on 08/05/2008, -4/+50I don't know why everyone is getting wiled up about this. I'm no Microsoft fan boy, and I'm no Linux fan boy.
However, I do believe that COMPETITION = GOOD.
It will ultimately benefit us aka the consumer. - jsmithers, on 08/05/2008, -11/+54Hmmm, I see the Microsoft shills are crawling out of the woodwork already, with only 5 comments...
This is a GREAT idea. This is a GREAT initiative.
Even if you ADORE Microsoft and their software, competition is a very healthy and good thing to make Microsoft software even better.
If you think Microsoft and their products are among the worst companies and products this world has ever been cursed by (as I do) then one can only see this as a pointer to a (much) brighter future.
Good work! - iXneonXi, on 08/05/2008, -3/+42I do not consider myself a "sheep" or a member of the so called "bury brigade" conspirators when I bury the above comments. They really do suck.
- SethEllis, on 08/05/2008, -6/+32They make us use lotus notes at work. It's the most worthless piece of software I've ever had the displeasure of using.
- CCmachined, on 08/05/2008, -3/+21whats wrong with OpenOffice? way too many business use Lotus office software just because it was once a company...
- FredFredrickson, on 08/05/2008, -3/+21Some on Digg, don't let your hate for Microsoft make you digg down these two for pointing out the universal problem that is Lotus Notes...
- inactive, on 08/05/2008, -11/+27You can already order a Dell with no MS installed. Unfortunately, very few people do.
- lordtyros, on 08/05/2008, -1/+15You're an idiot. IBM likely employs more software engineers than Microsoft does.
- stuffradio, on 08/05/2008, -3/+15Why are you getting burried? He speaks the truth...
- mike215, on 08/05/2008, -3/+15instead of lotus notes i would prefer to see sun jump in and add more functionality to openoffice. its already a nice office suite, just needs a few more add-ons
- KingFog, on 08/05/2008, -0/+11I like Windows, I like Linux...
Competition between the two can only be a good thing in the end for all of us. Competition means both will have to progress. Linux driver support will improve to even higher standards as more people try Linux and if Linux gets some corporate support, it will have more cash to push itself forwards, and Microsoft will be forced to come up with something really spectacular to stay alive. In the end, the consumers win. - Gavagai80, on 08/05/2008, -0/+11IBM doesn't *have* a PC market share -- they sold their PC unit and it's now Levono. This is just them trying to get their software installed on other vendors. Levono isn't participating.
- Reynardine, on 08/05/2008, -2/+13People want Windows and Office because as long as a business (or a single user) relies on a single Windows application, they *will not switch*. And in essence, Microsoft Office is one of the few remaining Windows killer apps for businesses.
The eeePC has a lot of satisfied customers because its target audience uses email, web browsing and messenger. Guess what, Xandros provides easy access to all these apps. - whataboutdave, on 08/05/2008, -0/+10IBM a toddler with a super soaker? Are you on crack?
- mike215, on 08/05/2008, -0/+9they need to ditch the rest of the java parts it has and maybe put out a version using qt or at least a smoother gtk gui
- doctorinfierno, on 08/05/2008, -1/+10Well I think this is a great idea. Just the fact that other OSs are available for users is great. It sometimes bugs me that some people just use Windows because of the lack of choice from computer vendors. I personally don't think that Microsoft makes bad OSs, but it's healthy to know that you can use something different if for some reason you're dissatisfied with the product. So welcome the alternatives, and make an informed choice... if you're not to lazy.
- anonymous1986, on 08/05/2008, -3/+11Open Office rules, got no problems whatsoever with it and u get a free pdf converter.
- m1zl3d, on 08/05/2008, -13/+21CLOSED SOURCE = BAD
OPEN SOURCE = GOOD
Open source is the way of software...Microsoft better open up soon or they will be left behind and it's as simple as that. Look at how far Firefox has come. - kokoshka, on 08/06/2008, -0/+8I've been on a helpdesk supporting lotus notes, it is a nightmare. I've run notes on linux, it is awful. Setting up Outlook on an Exchange server is a matter of pressing next about 5 times.
- DestroyFascism, on 08/05/2008, -0/+7Even though I use open office and enjoy it, OO has a long way to go IMHO. MS office is very smooth and has so little "in your face bugs" that OO has. I truly wish some major funding went into OO to bring it up to speed as I find its features to be superior to that of MS office, particularly given I mostly use it for CSV data management. I have noticed that 3 or 4 images on writer document will not only bug it out regardless of doc type but will sometimes crash it. Really needs work and investment.
- SocialPoison, on 08/05/2008, -3/+10Ugh... have they ever tried to USE Lotus Notes?
- Darkhacker, on 08/06/2008, -0/+7You clearly don't understand how IBM does business. IBM is both a hardware and software company. They are in direct competition with Microsoft. You'd have to be either blind or ignorant to not see that. The more IBM can push Linux to the desktop, the more hardware and software they can sell because they know that MS doesn't/won't write software for that platform (but IBM will) and companies want their entire network (both servers and workstations) on a single platform. If the perception that Linux doesn't make a good workstation exists, then people will move to Windows desktops with Windows Servers. If IBM can convince them otherwise, they'll buy workstations and servers from IBM with Linux installed. IBM does make desktop software and Microsoft does make server software.
- kettlechips, on 08/06/2008, -0/+7So that's why Asus EEE has such poor sales...
- samdu, on 08/05/2008, -4/+11Say what you will about the popularity (or lack thereof) of OS/2, but it was a HELL of an OS. Leaps and bounds better than Windows at the time.
- zdiggler, on 08/05/2008, -0/+6IBM don't have OS?
Where have you been?
AIX, i5, Zos that run on their million dollar machines - Gavagai80, on 08/05/2008, -0/+6True. I don't care much for the copycat projects, and they're never going to be anything but cheap immitations. KOffice is way better and has some uniqueness.
- inactive, on 08/05/2008, -3/+9Right, digg him down for telling the truth.
Ever used Lotus Notes? I use it EVERY ***** DAY, and I hate every second of it.
I thought nothing could get worse, until IBM started bundling their (un)productivity tools, Lotus Symphony with Notes. Symphony makes Notes look perfect! Fortunately I still have my MS Office, otherwise I WOULD for sure quit. - magamiako, on 08/06/2008, -0/+5The same reason why Gentoo, Debian, Redhat, Mandriva, Ubuntu, and all the Linux guys don't combine to form a decently single operating system.
Because they all want the fame of being "the one". - planetscott, on 08/06/2008, -2/+7Only a masochist would voluntarily use Lotus Notes.
- spiffyfitz, on 08/05/2008, -2/+6http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwL0G9wK8j4
Not a rickroll. Just a good IBM ad. - hollyminkowski, on 08/05/2008, -3/+7It is Google that should challenge MS with a desktop Linux initiative.
Computers with a Google distro of Linux pre-loaded would sell well IMO.
Could easily rival MAC OS and be available loaded onto 500$ PCs.
Or Google could build an OS on top of BSD, like Apple did. - kleverness, on 08/05/2008, -1/+5True. I've heard many people here claiming that OO is just as equal as MS Office or better. Anyone who had actually used OO on a real working environment on daily basis knows that this is not true; a big but sad true: MS Office is far superior than OpenOffice :(
Don't get me wrong, I'm a big open source fan and I pray for the day everyone can have a free and high quality office suite. As of today, KOffice2 seems to be the only hope. Unfortunately, they lack developers, so progress is slow :( - Ninjao, on 08/05/2008, -1/+5Technically speaking it will be good for the consumer as it would boost features in both products...however if you mean it would benefit the user because the price would be cheaper then the consumer you're referring to would have to be a Microsoft user. As only they would reap the benefits from price-cuts. Linux is free(mostly).
- brickbat, on 08/05/2008, -3/+7Anyone that has used Lotus Notes knows that this "initiative" is not necessarily a good thing. It is an alternative and choice is good but I could never recommend this to anyone unless they are my biggest enemy.
- ConceptJunkie, on 08/06/2008, -0/+3Does Lotus Notes still look and work like it was written in the 1980's by forced labor in the Soviet gulags?
- Gavagai80, on 08/05/2008, -6/+9What's great about it? All it is is the addition of an IBM-branded, slower and more resource-hogging version of OpenOffice to existing linux distros. Oh, and lotus notes.
- mrBitch, on 08/06/2008, -0/+2RE: "IBM is both a hardware and software company. They are in direct competition with Microsoft."
Interesting thing here is that it's not important to either IBM or Microsoft whether the users "like" the software they push to corporates.
It's all about the server side - get that right and no-one cares if the employees don't "like" it - this is why Microsoft never really cared about nailing down a nice UI for any of their software. - luchid, on 08/06/2008, -0/+2Notes 7 does. Notes 8.0.2 looks like something out of this millennium, though they still have to re-do like 70% of the underlying crap that still looks very 1980s. Preference panes, wizards, control panels and all that. And configuring Notes 8.0.2 is still a nightmare. My outgoing server wouldn't "stick", after disappearing in the migration from 8.0.2, so I had to reconfigure the whole thing from scratch. And there's no easy way to delete accounts and profiles. You have to manually uninstall the thing, delete every instance of it remaining in your HD and registry. Then you have to relink all your databases to your "workspace" (a very 80s concept).
Plus the only thing people use it for is email, and it doesn't do that very well. And "databases" and "apps" for Notes were OK when developing them was hard and you needed a client for them. Now it should all be web-based (intranet) and accessible with any web browser. - YodaJones, on 08/09/2008, -0/+2I am really happy that IBM is wanting to help kill Microsoft, but that abortion that is Lotus Notes is a piece of *****. Why doesn't IBM GPL that code and let the community take it and run with it? I bet that would be very interesting.
- diablozx9, on 08/05/2008, -1/+3Excellent,
Its about time. - djbon2112, on 08/10/2008, -0/+2Google uses its own custom version of Linux on every computer it uses there, as well as Linux on all its servers. How much more "open source" can its "core software" be?
- AlexanderBlue, on 08/06/2008, -0/+2Yes. If you haven't checked Lotus Notes out lately, you should. Both Lotus Notes (the client) and Domino (the server) are mature, secure, and rock solid. And version 8 of Lotus Notes kicks ass. It's a HUGE usability improvement over any previous version. The Notes client runs on Windows, Mac, and Linux. The Lotus Domino server runs on Windows, Linux, Solaris, AIX, and a couple other IBM systems (including whatever IBM has decided to call the AS/400 this month).
- inactive, on 08/05/2008, -1/+3Hell,
I've been hearing about it since 90'..... - zdiggler, on 08/05/2008, -1/+3I use open office and for some reason when I do a spread sheet, its only print the template! Write software seems to work good.
weird. I save it as XLS and open in Excel and I was able to print. - dimension128, on 08/07/2008, -0/+2Dunno about jsmithers, but I can tell you why 'I' think Microsoft programs are literally a curse on the world.
Growing up, I believed that when some software had a problem of some kind, it must be my fault. I must not have some important system file in the right place, maybe program A and program B cant be installed together on the same machine, or maybe my specific hardware configuration wasn't supported.
I could search for fixes, but if I found none, I was sol. It all made me feel like an idiot. There was nothing I could do about any of it. Learn to love what you have, because thats all you get. Thats the attitude.
Now that I use open-source software:
If there is a bug.
If it doesn't work the way I want.
If I just want the 'Yes' button on the right and the 'No' button on the left.
If it doesn't exist yet.
I can FIX it myself. And I can share that fix with EVERYONE.
Or at the very least I can file a bug report, and chances are the bug will be gone with the next release. - LotusGrrl, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1The different with Lotus Symphony is that IBM also offers support for organizations that need it. With IBM behind it, they can capture bigger marketspace to force MS into working with Open document standards that Sun hasn't been able to.
- djbon2112, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1Hell, look how far LINUX has come! People still criticize it as "not being ready for the desktop" or whatever (***** IMHO but a different argument), but look at how far it's come in the ~4 years Ubuntu's been around (from primitive support for a few components, to an almost completely working desktop OS that can do everything Windows can do), and even the HUGE changed in usability and support for hardware just between 7.04 and 8.04 (one year). While Closed Source bitches that sales are down, Open Source gets its ***** done.
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