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- sirhomer, on 10/11/2007, -2/+18Summary:
1) Plug in iPod
2) Drag songs or playlist onto iPod icon
3) ???
4) Profit! - spacey, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13Hi all -
I'm the guy that wrote the tutorial/overview in question. The very next article that I wrote was "How to use Amarok to manage your iPod in Ubuntu" - which ace77 has also submitted to digg (and before you ask, I have no idea who he is, don't know him in real life or online, though I certainly don't object to his submitting my stuff to digg).
I'm actually in the middle of doing a series of 'itunes alternatives' articles, and this just happened to be the first one. This particular article (Rhythmbox) I personally don't really think is 'digg worthy' - it's aimed towards people who are completely new to Ubuntu, not the typical digg crowd.
@digitaljester - that's actually the one I'm working on right now - michuk, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9If you want more control over your iPod under Linux read this: http://polishlinux.org/apps/ipod-in-linux
(covers text-mode tools, GTKPod and alternative iPod-capable audio players like Amarok and Banshee) - xrenjrvt, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5http://digg.com/linux_unix/How_to_use_Amarok_to_manage_your_iPod_in_Ubuntu
- LRoy12, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I like floola, it even manages videos and podcasts.
- LegendarySock, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4If you profit, the RIAA will surely sue you.
- xrenjrvt, on 10/11/2007, -6/+9sudo apt-get install amarok
- xrenjrvt, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I think Ubuntu is the least of your problems
- thelastknowngod, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4nothing really ubuntu specific in that article is there? as long as you have hal, libgpod and rhythmbox installed and running correctly then it is the same on any distro.
anyway, nothing holds a candle to amarok. - marpstar, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I had wireless out of the box on my laptop, and got it working on my desktop in about 20 minutes time... maybe take more than 30 seconds before quitting next time?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4use amarok
- pHr34kY, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2One thing he left out is that in any version before Feisty, you need to patch the kernel to stop your iPod Nano from probing as a RAID controller... but I guess that's out of scope.
I must say it works quite well in Feisty. - bruenig, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Get a compatible card. They cannot help if wireless card makers don't create or open their drivers. The ones that do have incredible support. When I bought my laptop I made sure my card would work, ipw3945, got it working flawlessly no problems at all.
- LegendarySock, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I prefer Exaile. Its is really responsive and lightweight on my system. I never found a use for Listen's wikipedia tab feature and what not.
- rgsteele, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Which version did you use? Wifi was a bit of a pain in pre-Feisty versions (since it didn't come with wpa_supplicant preinstalled) but it works great in Feisty.
- schestowitz, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4Another more Open option is roxbox and mass storage device handling. The firmware is good for DRM, but that's not a Linux feature, let alone a feature at all.
- bruenig, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2He already said he didn't submit it? That does not change the fact that it should not be in the blog but in the wiki, and 2 that regardless of who submitted it, it shouldn't be dugg as it only legitimizes this community destroying act. Have you ever looked at the wiki, ubuntu has the worst wiki of nearly all distros yet it is the largest, why do you think that is? Because ***** put documentation on their blogs instead of where it should be. This not only makes it harder to find but even when it is found makes it hard to verify as being true. I hope ubuntu moves more and more towards a direction where a user isn't expected to really know much about the internals of the OS or configure anything because if not trying to find the information on how to configure it is becoming near impossible. I would almost rather take on a far more difficult distro than deal with this blog documentation nonsense.
- ekso, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3I like "Listen", best music and radio player for Linux. (and on Ubuntu repositories).
- DigitalJester, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Score.
- rgsteele, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I would happily use Rhythmbox to manage my music on my iPod, if it supported album art, gapless playback and Sound Check. Anybody know whether these features are coming to Rhythmbox or any other program for Linux? I'd love to ditch the Windows box with iTunes...
- rgsteele, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Er, I think you misunderstood my question. I'm wondering if there's a program that will support those things on my *iPod*, not on my computer. Right now, if I copy music from my computer to my iPod with Rhythmbox, when I play the album on my iPod it will not display the album art, playback won't be gapless, and Sound Check won't function. Rhythmbox doesn't populate the necessary fields in the iPod database.
- DarkDx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Try suse if you need wifi out of the box
- DigitalJester, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Songbird with the iPod Plugin, anyone?
- hexydes, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Try to cover Banshee and Songbird. Both work much better than Amarok and Rhythmbox, in my opinion (I've used all four fairly extensively).
- bruenig, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Perhaps other users had not thought of the destruction this sort of thing creates. Go take a browse at the wiki, it is a joke. I like how no one has refuted my claim that it makes documentation finding much harder than it should be. They just say well ***** it I hate finding documentation anyways, I like new users not having any idea how to do things because of ubuntu's exclusive blog documentation strategy. I do have to give them one thing, that is a hell of an innovation. No other distro has tapped the blog documentation market like ubuntu.
- gbusse, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Maybe someone can tell me if songs delete properly from the iPod when using Rhythmbox. I was happily using my iPod with Rhythmbox until one day when I tried to add a podcast to it and was told there was no room. According to Rhythmbox the iPod was empty but when checking the iPod filesystem I found that all the files I had been adding over time were still there. It appears that Rhythmbox removed the entries from the iPod database but did not remove the actual files.
Banshee deleted files properly from the iPod but mixed podcasts in with the rest of the library rather than putting them under the podcast menu where they are supposed to be.
Amarok works the best so far and does everything properly. I would love to use a Gnome based app but I guess I am sticking with Amarok now until one of the Gnome apps catches up to it.
FYI, I am running Ubuntu Feisty.
Later,
Gord - xrenjrvt, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Seriously, stop using digg. People submit what they find important. Others agree or not. At the very least if you hate it that much go to customize and unmark linux/unix. Problem solved. Now ***** off.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1"This particular article (Rhythmbox) I personally don't really think is 'digg worthy'"
I don't think that the app that you use to listen to your music defines if an article is 'digg worthy' or not. Neither your personal tastes. The digg crowd is who decides. - maruchan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0I think you've misunderstood the article...this is an iPod management tool for Linux desktop users, not a replacement for the built-in software that comes with the iPod. People who already use Linux daily need this sort of thing if they want to use an iPod sans iTunes.
But yes, it should improve your spinning experience immensely. :-) - hexydes, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Yeah. Too bad I can't drag music onto my iPod via this plug-in...
Maybe it is because I am on x64 of Ubuntu, who knows. I like Songbird (it is a bit resource-hungry, but otherwise fine), but the iPod function not working is a deal breaker. Banshee just works every single time, and though the interface isn't quite as good, I'll go with what works, thank you very much. - maruchan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Yeah, you can do that stuff in Linux. Amarok is probably your best bet. Keep in mind that gapless playback is a feature of the audio backend you're using with the Amarok player, so that's not a player-specific issue. Check this old thread: http://amarok.kde.org/forum/index.php/topic,9994.0.html
Album art is there, and for normalize, see bottom of my reply.
In fact, you can probably even use an old package like XMMS if all you need is these features. I've seen a few album art and normalize plugins for it, and IIRC it does gapless with a plugin (I think it's a feature of a crossfade plugin) - see XMMS entry on this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gapless_playback
If you want to permanently normalize your tunes so it's not a problem again: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=26073
http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=26073 - godd4242, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1I'd use Amarok more but its a beast for my computer to run and doubles all of my song library.
Its just a pain to have to hit remove copies everytime I open the program, Banshee works fine. - Protoman, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1My iPod works fine right now, I use the scrollwheel to move around and the centre button to play my song. Is this Linux somehow going to improve my spinning experience? Why would anyone possibly waste time when the current system is clearly good enough.
- k0001, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Being able to choose, that's beautiful.
exaile has support for ipod too (anyway, no ipod here), give it a try, it's quickly becoming a GREAT player for linux, its gtk based.
if you are using ubuntu, don't install the one in official repositories, it's kinda buggy. instead, try this: http://syzygy42.tuxfamily.org/dists/feisty/exaile-svn/ - MBHoy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Good article, the newbs will appreciate stumbling across it on their first few Linux searches on Google, but hardly diggworthy.
- marpstar, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Yeah...I prefer Banshee myself, but this really doesn't tell you anything that even a regular computer user couldn't figure out themselve... Buried as Lame.
- deadlikeoscar, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2He already said he didn't submit it so I guess we can all bury your crap too.
- ChrisWickenscom, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Ubuntu would be usable if it had decent wifi compatibility.
I tried using it to get into Linux and all it did was give me a migrane. - jwm0z, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Rythm box seems to crash trying to load my collection.
- nateabel, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1You can tell Ubuntu sucks when you have to read a tutorial as to how to sync your iPod with it...
- bruenig, on 10/11/2007, -6/+2Seriously, start burying this crap. Put it in the ubuntu wiki not on your blog, this doesn't help anyone who needs to find this information later.
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