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- inactive, on 10/25/2008, -16/+70Wow, I'm a complete ***** idiot and would have _never_ been able to figure out how to install software by myself. Thanks for another enlightening Linux article, Digg!
- weizbox, on 10/25/2008, -4/+37'i dont follow pokemon.'
Apparently, you do...
'pikachu should be yellow, not silver/grey.'
http://digg.com/arts_culture/Branding_Ecstasy?t=19 ...
You also have already made a comment like this before about Ubuntu.. so clearly you know what Ubuntu is by now :)
'whats ubuntu? a new kind of pokemon?'
http://digg.com/arts_culture/How_easily_we_are_foo ... - frostcrow, on 10/26/2008, -8/+34I guess the next top story will be something like "How to dial a number with your IPhone"
- ProfBagelwood, on 10/26/2008, -11/+37Alright, for the anti-Linux people posting here about how this is proof that Linux is oh so hard, I challenge you to tell me a Windows or Mac program that could be fully installed and configured in a two step guide. Let's compare the process for installing any program in Windows, Mac, and Ubuntu. I will be as generous as possible with Windows and Mac to reduce the number of steps as much as possible, and I will do the "scary CLI way" for Ubuntu.
Windows:
1. Go to program's web site. Use search engine if necessary.
2. Download installer to your computer. Extract from archive first if necessary.
3. Run installer program. Pick options, agree to EULAs, and possibly reboot.
Mac:
1. Got to program's web site. Use search engine if necessary.
2. Download the installer to your computer. Mount DMG if necessary.
3. Drag application from DMG into Applications folder, or run installer program. Pick options and agree to EULAs.
Ubuntu:
1. Open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install [program]." Add a software repository first if necessary.
And let's not even talk about how much easier it is to keep your system and all of its programs up to date. Seriously. You're entitled to your opinion about what operating system is your favorite, but you've got to give credit where it's due. When it comes to installing and updating software, Linux's package managers win. - badassninja, on 10/26/2008, -3/+23Take a chill pill. This is just a article for people who can't wait. For everyone else this version of OO will be added to the main Ubuntu Update servers and everyone will get the newest version automatically. Ubuntu doesn't add new versions of software right away for good reason. Take the new version of VLC, I added it the hard way ( like this guide ) and now I wish I hadn't, it's buggy as *****. The Ubuntu crew will wait for a stable version to come along before they add it to their servers. That way Newbes don't have to worry about it, every thing will "just work".
- Darkhacker, on 10/25/2008, -1/+15I don't know if you're being dugg down because they didn't like your delivery or if they simply didn't know the reference. http://xkcd.com/178/
- pHr34kY, on 10/26/2008, -1/+13...or you can just open Synaptic, find the app, tick it and click 'apply'. It's really not that hard.
- kazamx, on 10/26/2008, -0/+11Dont forget in most cases you can just click Applications - add/remove software - select app - click apply. Done
- SDL486, on 10/25/2008, -3/+14HA! Pawned!
- Baskins, on 10/26/2008, -1/+12Which will install version OpenOffice 2.4 on my current 8.04 Hardy install, as well it being the default version on an 8.10 Intrepid install (including the full release when it's out). The goal is to install OpenOffice 3.0.
...so yes, you need to read the article. - jake6730, on 10/26/2008, -1/+11One of the best features of Ubuntu is its package management. And any distribution for that matter. That is one difference between Linux distributions and other operating systems. They usually provide COMPREHENSIVE updates with one click. I know there are other updating systems out there that update software, but none that rival Linux package management.
- oblique63, on 10/26/2008, -0/+8no, he got the point, because this is not how you would traditionally install a program...
- GavinZac, on 10/26/2008, -0/+8If you're doing it from the command line, you probably know what you're doing. If you didn't know what it was called, you'd use the search engine built into the package manager on your desktop.
- vortemenene, on 10/25/2008, -2/+9don't forget the extensions!
- apophenic, on 10/26/2008, -0/+7Wow, xkcd makes front page three times a week, but apparently no one likes references to it.
- markthegoth, on 10/26/2008, -1/+7docx is the default doc format in word 2007
- mathcreative, on 10/26/2008, -0/+6This won't be so hard to install if ubuntu had already placed OOO in their servers. This guide is for people who want to install OOO earlier
- ProfBagelwood, on 10/26/2008, -0/+5Relax, guys, he said it was a genuine question. I don't think he was trying to pull a "Gotcha!" on me.
Quick Answer:
You can quickly look up package names by typing "aptitude search [something]".
Lengthier Answer:
If you want to search for a package without even leaving the terminal, you can type "apt-cache search [something]". If you do want to leave the terminal for some reason, then you can just look up the package on the Ubuntu Package List web site.
I actually prefer the way aptitude displays search results though, and to use that, it's just "aptitude search [something]". In fact, you can use aptitude instead of apt-get completely if you really want, but I find that "apt-get install [program]" to be preferable to "sudo aptitude install [program]". But the choice is your's.
And again, this is all assuming that you want to use the "scary CLI" way, which obviously isn't really so scary. - kdesu, on 10/26/2008, -2/+7It's kinda amusing to see everyone talking about how difficult it is to install programs on Linux.
All this guide does is show how to add the OpenOffice repository, then install the newest version of OO. It's not rocket surgery; in fact, it's less complicated than going through the Windows version's installation wizard.
On a related note, OpenSUSE's main repositories now have OO 3.0. So you don't even need to add a repo. Mark for installation and install... - coldkill3r, on 10/26/2008, -0/+4You can just get the .deb files from the OO website if you don't want to mess with adding a repo, although I don't think it's really that hard.
- Vadi0, on 10/26/2008, -1/+5Don't need 3.0 to open .docx, ubuntu patched 2.4.1 to be able to do that.
Welcome to open source with remixed software :P - infiniphunk, on 10/26/2008, -3/+7can they read?
- Vadi0, on 10/26/2008, -0/+4Because Ubuntu patched their 2.4.1 version with the docx capability.
So, yes, OOo 3.0 doesn't make much sense since Ubuntu's 2.4.1 has .docx. - apophenic, on 10/26/2008, -1/+5are you autistic
- GavinZac, on 10/26/2008, -2/+5:tard:
Almost every linux distro will come with Open Office already installed, no CD-Keys, no activation, and you didn't pay for it when you thought you were buying hardware. Those that don't are aimed at older computers and will come with gnome office or abiword or something. Free.
And I hope, I really hope you're referring to the MS Office trial versions and not Works. *shudder* - mathcreative, on 10/26/2008, -1/+4Listen ubuntu, or any linux disto for that matter will work over 90% of the time if told the proper instuctions. But other os's like windows can crash without doing something wrong. So yeah in the beginning you get a lot of phone calls. After that, they won't have much reason to call you about computer related stuff.
- Baskins, on 10/26/2008, -0/+3*****, you read no such thing because the article says no such thing. I run U8.04 and you can't just "go into Synaptic and check the box" for this. You can't do it for U8.10 either.
Actually read it and maybe you'll understand exactly what's it's doing. - coldkill3r, on 10/26/2008, -1/+4They can use add/remove or synaptic then.
- markthegoth, on 10/26/2008, -4/+71. Open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install [program]." Add a software repository first if necessary. -> doesn't this only work if you know the exact name of the program version etc? i.e putting sudo apt-get install open office will not just install open office will it? (not flaming genuine question) , therefore meaning that Linux needs a search engine just like the other two.
Doesn't this like all Linux things seem to assume that you already know the correct thing to put into terminal? - sloppychris, on 10/26/2008, -3/+6Linux also comes preloaded with a high quality office suite, but one you don't have to pay for.
- sevenalive, on 10/26/2008, -0/+3This is what i get for staying up late, a how to article that can be summed up in 1 sentence.
- sevenalive, on 10/26/2008, -1/+4http://sevenupdate.sourceforge.net
check that out, the first universal install & update platform for windows. No Install Screens, no finding downloads, no worrying about updates.
It works kind of like a package manager you would find on linux. - Badandy127, on 10/26/2008, -28/+30Evidence why Linux will never go mainstream and be installed on a lot of personal computers?
This article. - InorganicMatter, on 10/26/2008, -4/+6I was going to come in here and make a smartass comment along the lines of "but I thought it was so easy to install software on Ubuntu because of the Add/Remove Software feature you guys like to brag about so much."
Then I saw that the article did nothing more than show you how to go into Synaptics and check the box. :p - cwcentral, on 10/27/2008, -0/+2Actually, openSuSE (10.2-11.0) uses an optimized version of OOo. It loads faster and has a few OOo plugins that get it closer to being a MS Word competitor--like having the extra plugins to read MS Word docx files.
Also, what's funny is Ubuntu is talking about a new search feature when SuSE has had beagle for 3 versions. Sure Ubunutu maybe easier on the hardware (out of the box compatibility), but openSuSE 11.1 will sure signal the linux home desktop is ready, regardless of the GPL naysayers and it just as compatible since 11.0. - Queue29, on 10/26/2008, -0/+2It's only going to be offered as a backport in about a month anyway. May as well get it now.
- waspbr, on 10/26/2008, -0/+2@vadio
it does make sense, docx support is just one of the improvements of OOo3 over its previous versions, also it is faster (loading times) and more efficient and there are many other improvements overall.
though canonical wants to make sure that OOo3 is 100 percent compatible and bug free with respect to ubuntu. though I have it installed on intrepid (8.10) on 2 machines and it runs very well and smoothly. - Keithamus, on 10/26/2008, -0/+2JQP123, it does accommodate those users; using synaptic. If you go to the Applications menu, then click "Add/Remove" you'll be confronted with a point and click interface.
This interface, contrary to windows, is already not only categorised, but also sorted by the most popular applications, so going into "office" I can see a list of applications, their names and their description, I just click on one and its pretty much installed.
I don't see how that is "old *nix philosophy" or hard to use. Applications - Add/Remove. On windows you have to go to My Computer - Control Panel - Add/Remove, which doesn't let you install anything! - infiniphunk, on 10/26/2008, -4/+6yeah? and where did the file come from? you went to dowloads.com to get it. Then, (hopefully) you ran it past your virus scanner, then, you have to click through a bunch of screens. pray to god it doesn't crash your rig and/or force you to reboot during something important.
- infiniphunk, on 10/26/2008, -4/+6"Also, my Ubuntu package updater asks me to reboot for changes to take effect all the time"
yeah, after it updates the kernel. and in 20 years of using Windows you have never had to reboot after installing something? please sir, go tell your lies elsewhere. - apophenic, on 10/26/2008, -1/+3How many times are you planning on installing OO3 exactly?
- jake6730, on 10/26/2008, -3/+5Wow, you are so hilarious. I wish I could be as funny and as original as you.
*****. - inactive, on 10/26/2008, -12/+14apt-get install openoffice.org-base-core
don't need to read the article - Spr0k3t, on 10/26/2008, -0/+2sorry about that... the [/sarcasm] didn't show up.
- onemangang, on 10/26/2008, -1/+3you can get the RC off Ubuntu's website. Works perfect.
- horsepie, on 10/26/2008, -2/+4"The only intuitive interface is the nipple"
I'd like to see this "intuitive OS" you speak of, I think I might like it a lot. - Biznarie, on 10/26/2008, -0/+2I agree with the above comment, searching 1 place to find what you need, then 2 clicks and you have it, thats clearly the easiest. Just because people say sudo apt-get install packagename does not mean thats the only way, its just better then saying (go to System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager open that click search type packagename check off desired results, click apply)
- dosware, on 10/26/2008, -0/+2Point & Click= a Linux gui package manager.
My grandpa can use that...vs
Search with google, download, where did that file end up, run download...etc. The latter certainly ain't point and click for gramps!
Sorry... Linux gui package manager wins big time for gramps with many fewer steps. - jake6730, on 10/26/2008, -1/+3They should have just saved it to be installed by default. Because I'm sure there are a bunch of docx and *x hanging around.
- JQP123, on 10/26/2008, -0/+2@Keithamus: "I don't see how that is "old *nix philosophy" or hard to use."
That's the problem --- people keep pointing out the issues but for whatever reason, Open Source just don't see it.
It's hard to use because it is restricted and does not scale.
Every application that the user wants/needs is not and never will be in the repository. For example, assume a business owner needs a *competent* application for US payroll. Show me that in your repository.
Note: Small personal accounting or check writing programs are not *competent* business payroll apps. -
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