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- Phocion55, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7@bigtrouble77:
Ubuntu users run Ubuntu because apparently "it just works". Mindlessly copying and pasting without knowing why you are doing it is the norm.
....and then it's the same exact same people flaming you on Digg acting like they actually know something. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Your post "don't even worth to read"
Learn English. - Phocion55, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6*CRASH* #((%#(*%)virus$)*@)_#*virus$#*$(#)_$-0spyware
- tradjik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Am I missing something? I thought VMWare Server 1.0 was released a while ago - like July 12th
http://www.vmware.com/news/releases/server.html
I use it and love it, but just wondering if something had changed to have this article created. - bigtrouble77, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@ EdLesMann
You don't have to reinstall, just run the config utility after you update your kernel. It'll take 10 seconds. - finalmillenium, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Not all of us are linux gurus.
- scilec, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2FYI for anybody who's interested...
It is also possible to install VMware Server on a Linux box without an X server. I was able to install VMware Server on a Centos 4 box (Red Hat clone) with a minimal installation, which also means no X Server. I tested this because I wanted to maximize the amount of memory available for the vm's. If you do this of course, you can only manage virtual machines by running VMware Server remotely. And, you won't have access to the Virtual Network Settings in the Host menu. But if you're comfortable with the config files, you can still make changes by editing them directly. - InsaneMachine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@bigtrouble77
Because when I started with Linux I had no idea how to install anything. Of course the first thing I chose to install was something from source on Slackware. I did not know that the make command existed. Let me say that I was very happy once I got it installed. - bigtrouble77, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Why do we need a howto for this? Vmware is one of the easiest things to install in linux.
This build works fine in ubuntu. - jla0, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Just release? Version 1.0 as been out since July...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2+1
Anything that works on Debian Sarge will most likely work on Ubuntu Dapper/Edgy. - bigtrouble77, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@everyone that responded to me
I'm sorry, but the install documentation from vmware are VERY clear how to get things going. Howto's should not be a replacement for VERY basic installation procedures. Linux noobs need to understand how the installs work rather than just mindlessly cutting and pasting howto instructions.
I have this build running on 4 machines, 2 of which are amd64 builds. I have zero issues. - creutzfeldt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3As usual, it takes a while for Debian to catch on to... new releases :)
- diggapleaze, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@edlesman
all you have to do when you update the kernel is open a terminal and type:
vmware-config.pl
as root. Then vmware will run fine. See? That was easy :) - EdLesMann, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I am sorry for top posting, but this is something that everyone needs to beaware of if attempting this.
If you are attempting this on ANY Linux distro, updating the kernel will most likely break it! VMWare Server is VERY integrated into the kernal and hardware services. I have found that sometimes a small update is unnoticable, but the last kernel release for Debian Testing broke it completly and I had to do a complete uninstall of VMWare Server and reinstall.
This is not just my experiances. There are plenty of topics on the forums about this. I just want to warn you ahead of time before you do an update and everything stops working right.
Also, there are tons of forums and howto's to do this on other distros. - Phocion55, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Guys, calm down. Just because "Ubuntu" isn't in the title and one single step may not be Ubuntu-specific doesn't mean you have to curl up into the fetal position and quiver in fear. Try it out!
- diggapleaze, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@scilec
you should seriously give Xen virtualization a try, it's MADE for X-less virtualization. In fact, you have to use VNC just to get a GUI. But for servers, it's perfect because it's the most lightweight virtualization I've tested so far myself. Plus, it uses paravirtualization, so there is zero overhead due to virtualization layers. Basically, you can have two setups:
A) The host OS has a gui. You can open up multiple terminals, and within each X-terminal load a new instance of a virtual OS
B)The host OS has no gui. You can use an app like screen to execute and detach multiple instances of virtual OSes.
I've sucessfully ran 5 OSes (I had no interest in running any more) on a single core cpu with 1.5 gigs of ram, with literally zero overhead. Awesome for server stuff.
p.s. check out freebsd's jails system too for zero-overhead, contained environment solutions - EdLesMann, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Maybe nothing changed except interest. I know of three people in the last month who have just discovered VMWare and begun using it. One guy did not even realize it was free now.
- EdLesMann, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1While I did not use this tutorial, I can say that the installer program that comes with the VMWare Server works on Debain Stable, Testing, and Ubuntu. The RPM package on their site worked with CentOS (though I do not think it is mentioned on their site, they do specify distros that they work with)
- scilec, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Out of curiosity why? Do you just have a beefy backend server? Does it serve a very specific purpose?"
Here at work, we currently manage around 150 vm's running on 9 ESX hosts. I'm currently trying to determine what role VMware Server might play in our existing development environment. Since we have a limited budged, one of my goals was to set up a VMware Server box with the smallest memory footprint possible. That way, we'd have a better idea as to how many vm's we can realistically run on a box with, say, only 2gb of memory.
So, I'm not necessarily saying that anybody would want to do this. I just mentioned that it IS possible if you are interested in maximizing the amount of memory for your vm's or other apps. :) - EdLesMann, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Maybe this part is my experiances, but that does not seem to work with all the updates.
In the last update, the config utility rebuilt but couldnt use the network card. So I tried it again. This time it would start but it would crap out whenever you opened a virtual machine. I know that it has been brought up before on the forums and often when things just go down hill it seems to be a popular choice to just reinstall.
I just want people to know that they may experiance issues and to find out the best method for them to deal with any problems that may come up. If you know what I did wrong, or have any suggestions, by all means tell me. I am more then willing to listen to get things working right :-D - EdLesMann, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Out of curiosity why? Do you just have a beefy backend server? Does it serve a very specific purpose?
I just would like to know why someone would do that as to me (eg the things I do with a VM) the whole purpose is to have many types of systems without having the hardware expense. For example, I have 3 VM's on my computer. 1 is a complete almost exact replica of my current install. I test things out on it before I put it on my primary system just in case the whole thing goes to crap or if I just don't like it. The second is a windows install for the once in a blue moon that I want/need to boot into windows. The third is a misc install for whenever someone says I have to try out a certain distro and I don't care to do a install on any of my systems ("dude the new ubuntu wacky wolf is out! You just HAVE to install it!")
Anyway, your setup intrigues me and its probably something really simple but I ask anyway. - EdLesMann, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Thanks!
- hklein, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server
- ISIfunded911, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You can also install the great free as in free qemu:
http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
With the free as in beer kernel-kqemu module, it is fast.
RTFM, and go to the forum for help if need be. - darthcamaro, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3does anyone know if this build will also work for Ubuntu?
- smcavoy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1if you need a how-to, to install vmware... you're probably a rendneck, or at the very least an idiot
- EdLesMann, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1As far as the current discussion:-/
I think I am going to end up sitting in the middle on this one. I think tutorials are great and absolutly needed. Even when there is really good documentation there are times when you want to try something out and just want to find out how others set their system up. Once that is done and the user likes the product, then going back and learning the details and building it yourself is a really good benifit. I dont use VMWare much but it has been really useful to me so I like reading through and trying to find out something I didnt know before.
However, there is also a ton of information out there already for tutorials (in this case VMWare). While Digg is meant to bring out information to the public, I dont think it should be abused. The Howto site is designed to hold tutorials and information. Digg should bring that site to light, but not every article that appears on it. Especially ones that seem to have a ton of information out there. Whats next? How to move your mouse and double click?
My current stance though is if the submitter really wants to share information and believes it will help others, they should post. I just would rather people not post howtos just so that they can claim a front page story. I can not read the submitters true intentions, so I hope for the best. And hey. Maybe I am wrong, maybe someone does need a tutorial to double click the mouse. In that case bury me and tell me to STFU. :-D - RubeusEsclair, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Only losers get viruses and spyware.
Noob. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1@ BigTrouble77
No, this build doesn't work fine in Ubuntu. I've had numerous errors using the VMWare version that is in the Ubuntu repositories. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0if you want your post in front page post articles from howtoforge your post will be listed in fronpage guarantee no matter it is good or bad
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1OMFG howto install, it don't even worth to read.
Only thing whats "difficult" a bit with vmware is patching sometime when newer kernel come out. - i440, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0“If you are attempting this on ANY Linux distro, updating the kernel will most likely break it!”
Well, that's convienient.
Now, if only there were a Howto about installing it on Linux or OS X. Oh, wait... - pcgeek101, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Installing on Windows:
*click*
*click*
*click*
done.
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