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- abbathdoom, on 09/17/2009, -0/+27I know QT and KDE are not the same thing, but you have to wonder whether Nokia will end up pumping even more money into KDE in the coming years, either directly or indirectly.
- echris, on 09/17/2009, -5/+31KDE is very well organized and community centred. that's one of the reasons i love it...
- MrRtd, on 09/17/2009, -5/+28The default Gnome desktop seems so out-dated. KDE appears so much more modern. I'm using KDE 4.3.1 everyday, and it seems very stable, Plus I like the fact that there is no need for Compiz-fusion.
- jaytek13, on 09/17/2009, -2/+22KDE4 is brand new. Gnome2 is ancient.
Bring on the fair comparison when the Gnome developers step out of the 90's. - warp99, on 09/17/2009, -6/+20Gnome: Booze & cigars
KDE: Hookers & blackjack - echris, on 09/17/2009, -0/+13I think they already do. When KDE needs a new feature in Qt, Nokia implements it. Just look how many feature for the plasma project were added to Qt.
And Nokia already is a patron of KDE: http://ev.kde.org/supporting-members.php - KAMiKAZOW, on 09/17/2009, -0/+12Well, Nokia just took Trolltech's place as Patron. The KDE-Trolltech relationship was good in the past and the faces didn't change much after Nokia's takeover of Trolltech.
Nokia increased the Qt development team members, but AFAIK more money for KDE is not spent. - DivineMonkey, on 09/17/2009, -3/+14I switched to KDE 4.2 about 6 months ago after using Gnome for years. I can safely say, it's the best functioning and best looking DE on Linux or probably any OS. The KDE devs did an awesome job on 4.3, so much more speed and so little resources, and bugfixes!! Sure it's still got a few bugs, but it's still new, but in a years time it'll be the DE to beat. Even more so since Gnome 3 looks like complete and utter *****.
- OverDriven, on 09/17/2009, -14/+23KDE is still bug ridden. Gnome is the go-to desktop for stability and speed in linux. I look forward to seeing KDE fix the problems in the coming years. It really is a nice desktop, but it doesn't feel as solid and high quality as Gnome yet.
- regeya, on 09/17/2009, -0/+8I'm using Chakra Project's KDE4 packages. It's pretty damn solid.
I'm inclined to put more blame on packagers and/or distributions for farking up KDE4. - MysterySword, on 09/17/2009, -3/+11Agreed. I used to use GNOME, because I first tried KDE back when the buggy and slow 4.1 was out, and 4.2 fixed all that, and 4.3 is even better, and now I like it more than GNOME.
- roseap, on 09/17/2009, -0/+6on second thought, forget the blackjack...
- echris, on 09/17/2009, -5/+11Gnome is more configurable than KDE??
In KDE you can configure everything the way you want it to be, and in gnome you can configure almost nothing... - tmalloy, on 09/18/2009, -0/+6It's a quarterly report.
- DivineMonkey, on 09/17/2009, -7/+12You're so wrong it's laughable. And you obviously haven't used KDE 4.3. It's far from being just eye candy.
- brandf, on 09/17/2009, -1/+6how do they spend $34,401 on wages? That can't be more than 1 person...I wonder what the job is.
- Killerah, on 09/19/2009, -0/+4I have to say, I'm pretty darn impressed with KDE. I just switched over to 4.3 and I really like it, not too many infuriating bugs to speak of, and it runs smooth and looks really pretty. What more could you ask for?
- rangah, on 09/18/2009, -0/+4I prefer kde to gnome, but in general, I prefer gtk apps to qt apps. It's rough.
- Narishma, on 09/18/2009, -0/+4Gnome and KDE are desktop environments, not window managers. That's like comparing apples and cars.
- renegadeafk, on 09/17/2009, -5/+8Yeah as much as I want to love kde4 its just so damn buggy. The computers in my school run opensuse and kde4.2 and its just a PITA to use, with the panel rearranging itself randomly and plasma crashing for no reason. never had these kinds of issues with gnome.
- SamSlater, on 09/17/2009, -3/+6Gnome seems a little more configurable to me but I prefer the candy of KDE. In comparison gnome looks like something from the late 90s while KDE is definitely this century. I'm not a fan of dolphin, though. It's use of white space is pretty awful compared to nautilus.
- tnoy, on 09/17/2009, -2/+5i.e. Never.
- inactive, on 09/18/2009, -2/+5It's not even remotely funny anymore.
- KAMiKAZOW, on 09/19/2009, -0/+3I've never seen a proper survey on that topic. There are often polls here and there regarding the question which DE is the most popular. The results often vary on where the poll has been posted / advertised. Fedora and Ubuntu users are more likely to select GNOME, than Mandriva and SUSE users, for example.
Common users seldom actually take such polls. Take the buyers of the first Asus eee PC. It came with KDE and was immensely popular. Do you think that many of them knew what KDE even is? - SamSlater, on 09/18/2009, -1/+4You could be right, which is why I said "Gnome SEEMS a little more configurable than KDE". In other words, I was stating my opinion, based on personal experience, not stating a fact.
I guess I just know my way around gnome a little better, that's all. - tashtego67, on 09/20/2009, -1/+3Damn you got dug down hard for a fairly innocent remark. There are some touchy fanboys on digg.
- fyanardi, on 09/18/2009, -4/+6Except that their so called 'usability' doesn't work too well for some people (including me) :-P
- KAMiKAZOW, on 09/19/2009, -0/+2I have no idea what you're talking about. I use openSUSE as well and before KDE 4.3 was released, I've used 4.2 with it.
I didn't have any major problems with it. Sure, a few slight glitches here and there, but no software is bug-free.
Either you school's admin is stupid and still runs some old beta or he messed up config files in another way.
The latest KDE release is also 4.3.1. Considering that 4.2 was never officially supported by SUSE (openSUSE 11.1 shipped with KDE 4.1), there's no reason not to upgrade. - KAMiKAZOW, on 09/19/2009, -0/+2Many options to configure aren't bad. They just need to be organized in a proper way.
Luckily that's a goal of KDE 4. In most areas it already improved a lot over KDE 3. - KAMiKAZOW, on 09/19/2009, -0/+2Considering that the GNOME Foundation was founded by Sun and HP, it's no surprise that its report has a corporate touch to it.
- ptFoe, on 09/18/2009, -0/+2you copied that from slashdot
- KAMiKAZOW, on 09/20/2009, -0/+1First you claim that Nautilus is more configurable and then you don't even try to configure Dolphin? Yeah....
- inactive, on 09/17/2009, -22/+23KDE: Eye candy
Gnome: Usability - SamSlater, on 09/20/2009, -0/+1But you only took exception to me mentioning the awful use of white-space, not which file browser was easiest to configure. Maybe dolphin is easier to configure, I don't know because I've not tried, but on default there's so much wasted space compared to nautilus, that's all I was saying.
Personally, you could have mentioned that this problem was easily rectified on your first post. Oh well..... - dmazzoni, on 09/17/2009, -5/+6No, it's more like:
KDE: Too much customizability
Gnome: One size fits all
A few years ago Gnome rewrote their file dialog and got rid of all of the power user features. Their window manager has almost no options. The terminal is by far the worst: bad selection, limited scrollback, limited session / profile control. Basically it's too stripped down. KDE has the opposite problem: pages and pages of things that are tweakable...but I prefer it as a power user. - talkingtent, on 09/26/2009, -0/+1the must get paid under the table.
- KAMiKAZOW, on 09/19/2009, -1/+2So you configure Dolphin to use space more efficient. At least that's possible in Dolphin, unlike Nautilus.
- PinkyTheWinky, on 09/18/2009, -2/+3I Think KDE feels more high quality than gnome...
- KAMiKAZOW, on 09/19/2009, -0/+1Was it ever funny?
- renegadeafk, on 09/19/2009, -0/+1I've used a couple other distros with kde4 on my own computer and experienced the same issues, even suse on my laptop with kde4. I didn't use it for long because of those annoying bugs though.
Plasma LOVES to crash on me. - KAMiKAZOW, on 09/19/2009, -0/+1Considering that it was mostly the GNOME crowd who screamed with glee "Look! Wobbly windows!" when Compiz was first released, while OTOH the KDE camp admitted the interesting technology behind it, but also pointed out that Compiz (at that time) had a quite bad feature set when it came to actually managing windows.
That was also the reason why KWin got compositing features with release 4 and wasn't just replaced by Compiz much earlier. - KAMiKAZOW, on 09/19/2009, -0/+1Change the theme and stop bitching.
- talkingtent, on 09/26/2009, -0/+1Nokia can't hurt KDE any.
- KAMiKAZOW, on 09/19/2009, -0/+1Most bugs that users have and blame KDE for it are caused by old NVidia drivers.
Owners of NVidia GPUs need to use at least version 180.x of NVidia's drivers. Older drivers are very buggy with everything Qt4-related. - talkingtent, on 09/26/2009, -0/+1GNOME: Get the retards switched from Winblows
KDE: I can see why Patrick Volderking (Primary Slackware Maintainer) decided to use KDE and get rid of GNOME. - talkingtent, on 09/26/2009, -0/+1Don't get me wrong. Some of my favorite programs are written in GTK+ (gimp) but I prefer QT
- krisrm, on 09/18/2009, -4/+4Maybe not *just* eye-candy... KDE is too customizable for my tastes, though, and it just doesn't seem as "focused" as Gnome does.
- srg13, on 09/18/2009, -3/+3I love how people so boldly say the biggest BS... Try actually USING the desktop before you make stupid statements like that please...
- diggdatt, on 09/18/2009, -2/+2Gnome is very clean looking, KDE is 90s looking to me because everytheme seems to have to have super shiny glowing interface and icons.
- KAMiKAZOW, on 09/19/2009, -1/+1"I'm not a fan of dolphin, though. It's use of white space is pretty awful compared to nautilus."
What? So articles like http://www.osnews.com/story/21867/Cutting_Chrome_O ... are just made up? -
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