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  • cl0n3x, on 10/10/2007, -17/+207Two words: use Gmail
    • cfulp, on 10/10/2007, -29/+4Gmail's good. I wish it would incorporate folders though. I use gmail as my primary email, but I long for hotmail/outlook style folders.
      • czedlitz, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13tags are just the same since you can look at just 1 at a time if you want....use those..
      • rpgmaker, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12You can use tags that is SO MUCH better. You can put several tags to the same email without having that email several times, which would be the case using the Hotmail folders.
        • dtiziani, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0on't worry, when outlook implements tags they will say: "ouch! how could I've lived this far without tags?".
      • zongamin, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Or you could just use tags in exactly the same way
    • EXreaction, on 10/10/2007, -2/+32Use both - hotmail for those ***** sites which require you to register with a legit email addy, and gmail for your main email.

      Anyways, story buried as Inaccurate.
      1. http://www.myciol.com/ Is not a Linux website. Has anyone even checked it out? Check the archives as well if your not convinced:
      http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.myciol.com/
      2. All that is shown in the screenshot is the title and from address, not any of the message.
      • potp, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11agreed buried as lame. its not a linux distro site. and some people must have reported it in as spam to be registered on hotmails filters as spam.
      • bigtomrodney, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6And I'm sure the junky grammar in the email wasn't helping things. You know, that magical grammar that only Nigerian Princes can manage to use when asking to share their wealth with you.
      • jackcall, on 10/10/2007, -9/+1or you can use a site from this list of disposable domains, that I just copied from a porn sites javascript. Not sure what of them are, I haven't tried, there's like 210 domains in the list, but mailinator.com and lortemail.dk is worth a go.
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      • zaybertamer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Or, instead of a hotmail account, you can do what I do and use the one that comes with the ISP for junks. Or seperate gmail.
      • BHSPitMonkey, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1When I sign up at those sites, I use username+spam@gmail.com, and set up a filter for to:username+spam@gmail.com to archive or label or whatever.
    • el_taco, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11myciol.com does not contain a SPF record. Gmail would probably flag it too. The incompetent sysadmins is the problem.

      buried as inaccurate
    • alienforever, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4How's flagging a SPAM as a SPAM should drive someone to use another email?

      That email IS indeed SPAM... and I'm sure Gmail would filter it too. I use Gmail myself, but seeing baseless preference is just annoying.
    • iamhigh, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1You are just overtly biased, a small leeway and you rear your ugly microsoft hating horns.
  • shad0walker, on 10/10/2007, -32/+51This sadly doesn't surprise me. When they can't win through having the best product they go straight to FUD and unhanded tricks.

    P.S. Totally agree with cl0n3x. Just use Gmail.
    • JeffH, on 10/10/2007, -5/+14Not really an underhanded trick. I bet other services would pick it up as spam also. This same email should definitely be sent to other email hosts and see what happens.
    • tdous, on 10/10/2007, -6/+15Stupid reaction to a stupid link. Buried the post and your ***** tinfoil hattery.
    • EXreaction, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Sadly it doesn't surprise me you guys just believe this FUD that was posted.

      Did any of you even try to visit the site the mail supposedly came from?
    • stonedslacker, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Its not the same thing, but NOD32 updated virus definitions have started identifying the patch to NOD32 2.51.30 as a trojan.

      And NOD32 is one of the good guys.
  • over9, on 10/10/2007, -38/+22Buried for another anti-microsoft fanboy spam.
    • cl0n3x, on 10/10/2007, -10/+10It seems that's the only group of fanboys they have. Also, since this picture is showing that Microsoft is doing something to effect virtually EVERY server out there (as most servers use linux (most, not all)) that sends email to hotmail users, I would not consider this spam.
      • wolferz, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5The picture shows that HOW exactly? I don't see that in the picture any where.
    • zwaldowski, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2THE PICTURE'S FAKE!!! The site it's originating from is crappy, and has bad domain setup. There's no Linux blocking, I know, I've sent my Live account mail from my Linux site.
  • uncleLeo, on 10/10/2007, -13/+38maybe it was a spam message about linux?
    • strictnein, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Based on the grammar in the title, it's possible, I guess.
      • judsond, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3There's probably a story about it, but since digg users like to link to images directly...
    • merreborn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The domain this was supposedly sent from has nothing on it:
      http://www.myciol.com/

      Apparently, this may be an example of the content of that newsletter:
      http://www.ciol.com/workshop/newsletters/mar07/newsDaily.htm

      Note that a lot of the links use a URL redirector to redirect to another domain. That's probably what's tripping the phishing filter -- using such a cross-domain redirect is an extremely common phishing technique. If the "newsletter" wasn't filled with a bunch of marketing crap, this probably wouldn't be an issue.
  • HA5TY, on 10/10/2007, -15/+68Another reason Hotmail sucks... Get Gmail...here I'll help you if ur lazy

    http://www.gmail.com
  • schestowitz, on 10/10/2007, -45/+46
    Hotmail is a disaster. Last week, the following published:

    If Intent Can Be Proven, Microsoft Could Face Millions Of Mail Fraud Charges

    ,----[ Quote ]
    | The final results bore out the "conventional wisdom." If emails were donuts,
    | Hotmail would be HomerSimpsonMail. I don't need to reiterate the figures,
    | there they are in blue and red. But for a Hotmail account to destroy up to
    | 81% of all emails with attachments prior to their delivery to a "generic" ISP
    | email account is nothing short of absurd, as these Hotmail accounts were not
    | the free variety, but the fully paid ones. Compare those figures to the ones
    | where the generic ISP email accounts exchanged emails with attachments and
    | you will clearly see the difference. The worst performance was in making 2%
    | Vanish.
    `----

    http://hubpages.com/hub/Hotmail_Fails_To_Deliver_Up_To_81_Of_All_Attachment_Emails

    Days ago, my grandfather sent me photos from Hotmail, but the messages was intercepted. This wasn't surprising. Microsoft's Windows killed E-mail (because of zombies).

    Also see:


    Hotmail still riddled with spam

    ,----[ Quote ]
    | Microsoft has admitted that up to 98 per cent of messages sent to
    | Hotmail addresses are spam.
    |
    | [...]
    |
    | The findings will disappoint Microsoft chairman Bill Gates, who
    | predicted at the 2004 Davos World Economic Forum that spam would
    | be "eliminated" within two years.
    `----

    http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2188226/hotmail-riddled-spam-admits


    Microsoft shipped OneCare unfinished?

    ,----[ Quote ]
    | Since shipping in May, OneCare has failed industry tests and exposed
    | users to attack because of a security flaw in the antivirus engine.
    | The application also incorrectly flagged Gmail as a virus and in some
    | cases quarantined or even deleted complete in-boxes when a single
    | e-mail was laden with a virus.
    `----

    http://news.com.com/2061-10789_3-6168629.html?part=rss&tag=2547-1_3-0-20&subj=news


    Microsoft is the world's biggest cause of zombie remailers

    ,----[ Quote ]
    | In China, it would take about one and one-half years wages (for the
    | average Chinese) to buy a legitimate copy of Windows Vista. If you
    | could find it here.
    |
    | Microsoft is the biggest cause of zombie remailers in the world,
    | because they make noises, but do not do anything to address the
    | real digital inequities in the world.
    `----

    http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=38202


    Botnet 'pandemic' threatens to strangle the net

    ,----[ Quote ]
    | Cerf estimated that between 100 million and 150 million of the
    | 600 million PCs on the internet are under the control of hackers,
    | the BBC reports.
    `----

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/26/botnet_threat/
    • LucidDr34m3r, on 10/10/2007, -18/+13I dugg you down, not because your comment wasn't worth reading, but because it was a wall-o-text, and I didn't want to have to keep scrolling.
      • Salzar, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1scroll to read get yourself a bigger screen or better resolution
    • strictnein, on 10/10/2007, -6/+21Why do people digg this troll's comments? This is ALL he does. Post anti-MS diatribes with that annoying quoting style.
    • Ademan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6lol we all still love your quote style...
      • schestowitz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Thanks,. Ademan. Rather than address my posts they started with ad hominen attacks.
  • harvinator24, on 10/10/2007, -15/+81People still use hotmail, that just blows my mind. You would at least think a linux user wouldn't use it.
    • daxsymbiont, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5well, some use it from the ice age and have given out the address to many.

      i hope there's at least a re-direction service..
      • rusty0101, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Suspect that from MSN's perspective, and the articles noted earlier, that appropriate redirection is >C:NULL
    • prammy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I don't use it much anymore, but I still have my hotmail account from 1996 :)
    • jtb4, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It's just that Hotmail used to offer free pop and smtp so a lot of people used it then. Now, Gmail offers it and Hotmail doesn't. I don't like either one. Actually I trust MS over Google for the most part.
    • yenster, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Remember when open source programmer Marc Slemko broke Passport's authentication in just half an hour of mental work sitting at his kitchen table without even touching a computer? He leveraged a simple-to-exploit flaw in Hotmail to break into Passport. About that time (2001), any sane person who knew an iota about security would have closed their Hotmail accounts and moved elsewhere. Google on "Marc Slemko" and read about it. It's amazing, it's braindead, it's Microsoft.

      Quote from Slemko:
      "It is very clear that either Microsoft does not have sufficient resources in place to properly review the security of their services and software (it only took me about 30 minutes to come up with the basics of the example exploit, why didn't they notice the same issues?) or that they are aware of the shortcomings but decided that attempting to gain market share was more important than their user's security."
  • themarq, on 10/10/2007, -26/+21Wow, there is no way this could be an honest mistake. Clearly microsuk is out to ....

    Oh screw it, I can't even be sarcastic about it any more.
    Buried as 'anti-fanboy-ism.' We get that you don't like Microsoft, move along.
    • yaknowit, on 10/10/2007, -10/+4anti-fanboy-ism? what the ***** are you talking about?
      • wolferz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11its where unlike a fanboy, who is devoted to bragging about a product or company and refuses to acknowledge its flaws and even make up stuff that isnt true, you instead devote yourself to talking trash about product or company and refuse to acknowledge its success's and even make stuff up that isn't true. Note the strong parallels and minor differences.

        For example, any one got a screen shot of the full message? Any one notice this message uses horrible grammar and actually has two separate topics in the subject? How about the word tips, common in spam mail trying to sell you a product by listing it's features as "tips." There are other explanations as well but like these none of them paint Microsoft as the world dominating force for evil that the anti-fanboys all want it to be.

        I'm not saying they are true and no one is as quick to lay on the ***** about hotmail as me (mine based on first hand experience as opposed to something I saw under say... THE LINUX SECTION of Digg). However, the willingness to accept anything negative about Microsoft without requesting proof ether makes these people horribly gullible (sheep) or horribly ignorant (fanboy/anti-fanboy).s
  • vonskippy, on 10/10/2007, -6/+17They has yet to be an instrument invented that can measure how little I care about problems with Hotmail.
  • psycybrfrk, on 10/10/2007, -7/+4aw great. Is this a mistake or are they doing this on purpose?
  • mrtesting, on 10/10/2007, -2/+31You know.. as a Linux user you'd think that you'd be savvy enough to at least blur out your email address..
    • toasterwaffle, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10So they're using WINE? Looks like a genuine Windows Internet Explorer.
      • msgyrd, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1WINE doesn't reproduce the title bars to look like that, and I haven't seen a window manager for X that pulls off a direct copy that well, and the odds of ending up with an NBC branded IE through WINE seems slim to none. I'd say the guy is on a Windows box or took the screenshot inside a virtual machine.

        The weird scroll bars outside of IE with the titlebar editted out seems strange to me though.
      • zwaldowski, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2It's probably in Virtual PC. There's a second set of title bars.
    • colem, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Nice
    • digitalrogue, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0You haven't had the pleasure of reading forum postings by Ubuntu users, have you....
  • smurf22, on 10/10/2007, -8/+10Wait, you mean those enlarge your penis add were jut scams?! Man I lost a lot of money....
    • tnoy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8*****, I did too. I'm not too worried though, a Nigerian prince is going to give me a couple mil now that I've given him all my bank account info.
  • woodcoxcb, on 10/10/2007, -11/+47OMG!!!!!!11111oneoneone it's a microsoft conspiracy against linux because teh crappy spam filter misidentified a message as SPAM!!!!

    it happens every day. just cuz it's a linux email. sometimes i worry about digg...
  • daxsymbiont, on 10/10/2007, -8/+2can one redirect hotmail emails to a gmail?
  • miakeru, on 10/10/2007, -5/+34Hotmail does actually check the content of messages to determine whether it is spam or not. This is just fanboyism making something out of nothing. I'm not a Microsoft fanboy but I do hate to see needless bashing of something that the OP just doesn't understand. Buried for noobism.. oh wait, that's not an option yet. Damnit.
    • gazzerh, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Agreed. Complete *****. This doesn't say anything about the reasons it was marked.

      Buried.
  • burn0ut, on 10/10/2007, -6/+3I guess I'd be pretty bitter if I was a ***** e-mail client.
  • univerio, on 10/10/2007, -12/+6This calls for an organized "***** YOU",
  • pingpongboss, on 10/10/2007, -15/+4Alot of my friends ask me why I choose not to use microsoft products. It's cause of the crap like this that they do.
  • toasterwaffle, on 10/10/2007, -7/+6Using Konqueror, logging into Hotmail, I'm sent to preferences and told to use a more recent browser.
    • EXreaction, on 10/10/2007, -6/+4Want a cookie?
      • Megatog615, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8You get lots of cookies when you go to Hotmail.
    • zongamin, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1so what - serves you right for using hotmail
  • ScotchInBox, on 10/10/2007, -8/+1Look - we know Big Brother chums through the porridge - just don't make it so obvious to us.

    Oh I forgot BREAKING! BREAKING! BREAKING! BREAKING! BREAKING! BREAKING! BREAKING! BREAKING!
  • fender06, on 10/10/2007, -12/+7my old hotmail account (switched to gmail) used to automatically mark any messages from macworld as possibly dangerous, wouldnt open them, and gave me no opportunity to set the messages as safe.

    ps its not fanboyistic if its true
    • jtb4, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Wait a minute. Is it boytauristic??
    • fpcyber, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Um you just click on mark this address as safe and move on. You need to teach your spam filters. Are people seriously this stupid or just want to bash?
  • TomKarpik, on 10/10/2007, -2/+59That's it? A screenshot?

    A single screenshot serves as backup for the grandiose and sensationalist claim that Hotmail is filtering [all] Linux mailers? I'm not friendly towards Microsoft by default, but *come on*.
    • consonance, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Sometimes newsletters sent on a large scale are marked as spam by many different e-mail services. The notion that Microsoft is marking as spam everything mentioning Linux is patently ridiculous based on the anecdotal "evidence" of one screenshot.
    • EXreaction, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Not only a single screenshot, but a screenshot of just the subject and from address.

      Maybe they never heard of spoofing? Either that or it is a hoax.
    • assholepundit, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Not only that, but a mailer with a really ***** command of English. The subject line is "Linux most preferred than Windows".

      I'd mark that spam too. But than, I'm not more better then spam filters in most things to.
    • grumpyrain, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2True, but take a look at who dugg it. Mostly the usual suspects.
  • eean, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3I like the classic IE look - themed by some corporation and the user probably doesn't know why.
    • awhiteflame, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I was wondering why no one was mentioning the blatant NBC watermark.
  • GosuPenguin, on 10/10/2007, -10/+5Everyone know's linux is a hacking tool used by people to get epic lulz. I would like to thank microsoft for making this move to protect my privacy. You can read my full story on the fox news website.
  • SpaceParanoids, on 10/10/2007, -8/+10I'm picturing a bunch of Microsoft suits gathered in a boardroom, brainstorming marketing ideas...

    "Hey, what if we used our mail service to censor our competitors' emails."

    "No, I don't see any downside to that! Start killing emails about Linux. Next week we do Apple."

    Or, perhaps a more likely scenario: Microsoft sucks ass at running a mail service.
    • Ravatar, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1or.. his sysadmin should learn how to manage SPF records? This was a long time coming for hotmail and they've been pretty vocal about increasing the potential "spam value" for emails without a properly created SPF record.
  • weebit, on 10/10/2007, -11/+1we are going to see even more stuff like this now because Linux is not on the back burner anymore. Ubuntu, has helped bring Linux into the mainstream. Microsoft can no longer hide their dirty work. how many more did this happen too?
  • zarufa, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0dig TXT myciol.com +short - setup an spf record and try again...
  • deadbaby, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3I think the more important issue here is how atrociously bad the hotmail UI is.
  • nibbler, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Where I can be the first person to criticize microsoft, I'd like to see the contents of the email first. If there were something suspicious in the email I could see how a filter would confuse it.
  • expliquezvous, on 10/10/2007, -4/+16if you're so into linux, why are you checking your HOTMAIL using INTERNET EXPLORER?
    • mirzar, on 10/10/2007, -6/+1you can check hotmail on firefox on a linux machine
      • expliquezvous, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12true.
        not the point i was making though.
        thanks for playing.
  • mirzar, on 10/10/2007, -5/+3the thing that i hate about hotmail is it doesnt take you directly to your inbox when you log in
  • murlox, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3Gmail is superior; they have better mail filters, simple & powerful interface, and the best of all, free POP service.
  • kodybryson, on 10/10/2007, -7/+1Hotmail is always blocking mails as spam as well. I have a friend with a hotmail account and my mails are often blocked. He doesn't even know I sent it, and I get a bounce saying hotmail things my mail is spam.

    My friend suggested that since I'm in his address book, all mail should be let through. But they say no, that AOL needs to go to their website and do something. Not me, not him, but some representative from AOL. Right.

    It's good though. Anything that's bad for Microsoft is good for the world.
    • msgyrd, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Get an email address besides AOL? Both you and your friend are using ***** services, which is stupid when tons of free and superior services exist.
    • fpcyber, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You not only have ***** services, but also ***** spelling.
  • sumasshu, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13"Linux most preferred than Windows; Tips to create friendly websites"

    Wait, so that's not spam?
    • EricTheGrey, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Most likely, they are using a simple grammar check on the header and body, and since it doesn't make sense, flagged it.

      Personally, I would not have opened it. Not with that topic.
      • nontitle, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2it's from a mailing list.
        if you want, though, you can delete emails from a mailing list you subscribed to.
  • somegeologist, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8This is just dumb.
  • ninja0, on 10/10/2007, -11/+2how about DRM infected microsoft just makes an OS that works well, without spying on us!
    i see MS as them, and linux as US. linux was made BY US FOR US, MS was made by them... well... for THEM! (to spy on us of course... among other things, like try and control what we do with all the DRM crap)
  • mroo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13I'm a Linux advocated, but this is completely lame. It has nothing to do with Linux.

    It was probably correctly tagged as a 'phishing scam' because the REPLY-TO address is different to the FROM address. A technique commonly employed by phishers. My own LINUX mail servers does the same thing.
  • rahulkumar, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1considering ur just another Linux fanboy, who doesn't blur his email address, and puts this picture on googlepages, you deserve NO sympathy! for one if you have this picture on googlepages, why are you NOT using your Gmail account. Gmail isn't that great so stop fanboying Google.
  • minus1999, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Lets step back a minute. the subject was "Linux most preferred than Windows; Tips to create friendly websites" from a "Developer Weekly"... change Linux and Windows to whatever you want and it would still sound like spam. some weekly news letter you forgot to uncheck. happens all too often. stop hating microsoft for one minute and use some reason. Gmail is better, but even gmail marked my Seagate News letters as spam. So what? Google hates Seagate? they want me to use someone else for hard drives???
  • DeFex, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Coyote's law:

    When the same set of facts can be explained equally well by

    1. A massive conspiracy coordinated without a single leak between hundreds or even thousands of people -OR -
    2. Sustained stupidity, confusion and/or incompetence

    Assume stupidity.
    • jellygraph, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2But, when aforementioned company has been shown to do intentionally bad stuff in the past, never assume it is just stupidity

      after all, its anti-trust microsoft
  • msjgriffiths, on 10/10/2007, -2/+36Jesus Christ people, show some intelligence.

    1) The www.myciol.com website returns a "This site is under construction" in a . This is meant to be a domain for a site that publishes a "Developers Weekly"?
    1.2) A nitpick: what kind of company has an email address sent TO developers as "developers.myciol.com"? Shouldn't it be something obvious, like "newsletter@myciol.com"?

    2) The subject in the email is just wrong. "Linux most preferred than Windows"!?!? That just ain't English, and certainly not something I expect from a site publishing an English newsletter. Most SPAM emails are, for some reason, full of mispelled words and bad grammar, suggesting that this email actually IS SPAM.

    3) The Google Page the image is hosted on is by Sharjeel Sayad, whose email address is in the picture. He lists his domain, sharjeel.net (which right now leads to an error page, but previously - via Google Cache - leads to sharjeelsayad.blogspot.com). This blog hasn't been updated since February, and before that just republished articles from elsewhere on the web. The Blogspot Profile indicates that he's a 30-year old Indian living in Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh, India. It's also clear that (1) he's a Lunix fan, and (2) he's a Google fan (evidenced by the logos thrown around). (Also, this image was probably never meant to be public, since his email address, IP, and so on are all easily found in the image and elsewhere).

    Thus, while we don't have enough information to make any definitive conclusions, the evidence suggests that, hey, the email really _IS_ spam. Nor can we trust the image, because it doesn't come from a good source, has no explanation attached, and the author of the image is the person who actually SUBMITTED the image. I imagine it's probably a "Hah, let's see what Digg makes of this" moment.

    Honestly, I don't expect much from Digg commentators, but it's usually better than this.
    • EXreaction, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1For some reason you are getting buried...

      But with #3, I think you spent too much time researching it, #1 is more than enough to show this BS for what it is.
    • mohamedmansour, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Those are just anti-ms fan boys. They don't respect software developers and the innovation they have done but just critize them with false claims. For example, If it is true that a dog has eyes, they would say the dog doesn't have eyes just to prove that they are superior.

      I personally like both products, Microsoft Windows and Linux
  • zappo1776, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2Meh, why would anyone use Hotmail?
  • strax, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Someone can google for direct links, hotmail will let any spam through who pays around $1500/yr fee, blocks legit mailing lists and such as a way to try to extract "whitelisting" fees.
  • aaronmarks, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4If anyone has used Hotmail here lately, then you would know that it has been drastically improved. I still do agree that it is ridiculous that they don't have universal support for browsers other than IE with their full webmail client, and that they don't support email forwarding. Hotmail does have something that Gmail doesn't have though... Hotmail, now Windows Live Mail, has a free connector for Outlook that provides Exchange/IMAP functionality. It syncs Email, Contacts, and Calendars in real-time over an HTTPS connection with the WLM service. This same support is also built into any Windows Mobile 5 and 6 phone which makes it easy for users to access the same information from any device and any computer. Microsoft also uses the data collected from Windows Live Mails junk filters to support their Intelligent Message Filter for Microsoft Exchange 2003/2007. The most popular email server software for businesses is still Microsoft Exchange and this portion of Windows Live Mail alone is incredibly useful! I will agree that WLM's web interface isn't as slick as Gmails and that their search function still needs some work (as well as the other faults I mentioned above), but I really think that Microsoft is headed in the right direction with converging all of the devices and making PIM ubiquitous.
    • fpcyber, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Ummm I am using firefox with Hotmail now and it works. You can also forward emails...
  • shawnz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7did anyone think that there might actually be a REASON it was marked as phishing? IP different from domain, for example?
  • 1310nm, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Inaccurate, goodnight.
  • froggiestone, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Newsflash idiot, live mail opens all mail you havn't approved as "save" this way.. Ohh and how come its in the "inbox folder" haalooo ?
  • donkeySays, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2I tried Hotmail some six years ago and never did like it. Gmail FTW!
  • trogdoor, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9Either Digg users need to wake up and start burying ***** like this as inaccurate or the Digg devs need to change their algorithm because I haven't seen a story with the warning " Reported by diggers as possibly inaccurate " in ages, and you all know there has been a good deal of incredibly inaccurate stories that have made the front page. Seriously, what does it take for something to have a warning of being inaccurate? And who the hell is blindly digging this crap?
    • el_taco, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2*ix fanboys
      • sybesis, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1talk for yourself...
        I love linux...but only idiot would digg this.
    • pathy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Digg has turned in to a festering ***** hole compared to what it once was.
  • el_taco, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2A screen shot says nothing. Need to know more info on the host. Like is the server setup properly.

    Currently the host does not have a valid SPF record. Hotmail started checking SPF records Oct 2004
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