What is Digg?174 Comments
- cl0n3x, on 10/10/2007, -17/+207Two words: use Gmail
- harvinator24, on 10/10/2007, -15/+81People still use hotmail, that just blows my mind. You would at least think a linux user wouldn't use it.
- TomKarpik, on 10/10/2007, -2/+59That's it? A screenshot?
A single screenshot serves as backup for the grandiose and sensationalist claim that Hotmail is filtering [all] Linux mailers? I'm not friendly towards Microsoft by default, but *come on*. - HA5TY, on 10/10/2007, -15/+68Another reason Hotmail sucks... Get Gmail...here I'll help you if ur lazy
http://www.gmail.com - woodcoxcb, on 10/10/2007, -11/+47OMG!!!!!!11111oneoneone it's a microsoft conspiracy against linux because teh crappy spam filter misidentified a message as SPAM!!!!
it happens every day. just cuz it's a linux email. sometimes i worry about digg... - msjgriffiths, on 10/10/2007, -2/+36Jesus Christ people, show some intelligence.
1) The www.myciol.com website returns a "This site is under construction" in a . This is meant to be a domain for a site that publishes a "Developers Weekly"?
1.2) A nitpick: what kind of company has an email address sent TO developers as "developers.myciol.com"? Shouldn't it be something obvious, like "newsletter@myciol.com"?
2) The subject in the email is just wrong. "Linux most preferred than Windows"!?!? That just ain't English, and certainly not something I expect from a site publishing an English newsletter. Most SPAM emails are, for some reason, full of mispelled words and bad grammar, suggesting that this email actually IS SPAM.
3) The Google Page the image is hosted on is by Sharjeel Sayad, whose email address is in the picture. He lists his domain, sharjeel.net (which right now leads to an error page, but previously - via Google Cache - leads to sharjeelsayad.blogspot.com). This blog hasn't been updated since February, and before that just republished articles from elsewhere on the web. The Blogspot Profile indicates that he's a 30-year old Indian living in Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh, India. It's also clear that (1) he's a Lunix fan, and (2) he's a Google fan (evidenced by the logos thrown around). (Also, this image was probably never meant to be public, since his email address, IP, and so on are all easily found in the image and elsewhere).
Thus, while we don't have enough information to make any definitive conclusions, the evidence suggests that, hey, the email really _IS_ spam. Nor can we trust the image, because it doesn't come from a good source, has no explanation attached, and the author of the image is the person who actually SUBMITTED the image. I imagine it's probably a "Hah, let's see what Digg makes of this" moment.
Honestly, I don't expect much from Digg commentators, but it's usually better than this. - EXreaction, on 10/10/2007, -2/+32Use both - hotmail for those ***** sites which require you to register with a legit email addy, and gmail for your main email.
Anyways, story buried as Inaccurate.
1. http://www.myciol.com/ Is not a Linux website. Has anyone even checked it out? Check the archives as well if your not convinced:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.myciol.com/
2. All that is shown in the screenshot is the title and from address, not any of the message. - miakeru, on 10/10/2007, -5/+34Hotmail does actually check the content of messages to determine whether it is spam or not. This is just fanboyism making something out of nothing. I'm not a Microsoft fanboy but I do hate to see needless bashing of something that the OP just doesn't understand. Buried for noobism.. oh wait, that's not an option yet. Damnit.
- mrtesting, on 10/10/2007, -2/+31You know.. as a Linux user you'd think that you'd be savvy enough to at least blur out your email address..
- uncleLeo, on 10/10/2007, -13/+38maybe it was a spam message about linux?
- shad0walker, on 10/10/2007, -32/+51This sadly doesn't surprise me. When they can't win through having the best product they go straight to FUD and unhanded tricks.
P.S. Totally agree with cl0n3x. Just use Gmail. - strictnein, on 10/10/2007, -6/+21Why do people digg this troll's comments? This is ALL he does. Post anti-MS diatribes with that annoying quoting style.
- consonance, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Sometimes newsletters sent on a large scale are marked as spam by many different e-mail services. The notion that Microsoft is marking as spam everything mentioning Linux is patently ridiculous based on the anecdotal "evidence" of one screenshot.
- mroo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13I'm a Linux advocated, but this is completely lame. It has nothing to do with Linux.
It was probably correctly tagged as a 'phishing scam' because the REPLY-TO address is different to the FROM address. A technique commonly employed by phishers. My own LINUX mail servers does the same thing. - EXreaction, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Sadly it doesn't surprise me you guys just believe this FUD that was posted.
Did any of you even try to visit the site the mail supposedly came from? - expliquezvous, on 10/10/2007, -4/+16if you're so into linux, why are you checking your HOTMAIL using INTERNET EXPLORER?
- pathy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Digg has turned in to a festering ***** hole compared to what it once was.
- vonskippy, on 10/10/2007, -6/+17They has yet to be an instrument invented that can measure how little I care about problems with Hotmail.
- czedlitz, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13tags are just the same since you can look at just 1 at a time if you want....use those..
- expliquezvous, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12true.
not the point i was making though.
thanks for playing. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11agreed buried as lame. its not a linux distro site. and some people must have reported it in as spam to be registered on hotmails filters as spam.
- redrock34, on 10/10/2007, -4/+14If your lazy and accidentally clicked the view reply button instead of clicking the link HA5TY provided theres a link to Gmail at the bottom of this post. So you now have an option to either bring your pointer up or down to click the link...Choose wisely.
http://mail.google.com/ - sumasshu, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13"Linux most preferred than Windows; Tips to create friendly websites"
Wait, so that's not spam? - wolferz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11its where unlike a fanboy, who is devoted to bragging about a product or company and refuses to acknowledge its flaws and even make up stuff that isnt true, you instead devote yourself to talking trash about product or company and refuse to acknowledge its success's and even make stuff up that isn't true. Note the strong parallels and minor differences.
For example, any one got a screen shot of the full message? Any one notice this message uses horrible grammar and actually has two separate topics in the subject? How about the word tips, common in spam mail trying to sell you a product by listing it's features as "tips." There are other explanations as well but like these none of them paint Microsoft as the world dominating force for evil that the anti-fanboys all want it to be.
I'm not saying they are true and no one is as quick to lay on the ***** about hotmail as me (mine based on first hand experience as opposed to something I saw under say... THE LINUX SECTION of Digg). However, the willingness to accept anything negative about Microsoft without requesting proof ether makes these people horribly gullible (sheep) or horribly ignorant (fanboy/anti-fanboy).s - pplude92, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10I clicked "CANNOT"...and missed.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12You can use tags that is SO MUCH better. You can put several tags to the same email without having that email several times, which would be the case using the Hotmail folders.
- JeffH, on 10/10/2007, -5/+14Not really an underhanded trick. I bet other services would pick it up as spam also. This same email should definitely be sent to other email hosts and see what happens.
- EXreaction, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Not only a single screenshot, but a screenshot of just the subject and from address.
Maybe they never heard of spoofing? Either that or it is a hoax. - toasterwaffle, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10So they're using WINE? Looks like a genuine Windows Internet Explorer.
- minus1999, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Lets step back a minute. the subject was "Linux most preferred than Windows; Tips to create friendly websites" from a "Developer Weekly"... change Linux and Windows to whatever you want and it would still sound like spam. some weekly news letter you forgot to uncheck. happens all too often. stop hating microsoft for one minute and use some reason. Gmail is better, but even gmail marked my Seagate News letters as spam. So what? Google hates Seagate? they want me to use someone else for hard drives???
- el_taco, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11myciol.com does not contain a SPF record. Gmail would probably flag it too. The incompetent sysadmins is the problem.
buried as inaccurate - tdous, on 10/10/2007, -6/+15Stupid reaction to a stupid link. Buried the post and your ***** tinfoil hattery.
- strictnein, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Based on the grammar in the title, it's possible, I guess.
- tnoy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8*****, I did too. I'm not too worried though, a Nigerian prince is going to give me a couple mil now that I've given him all my bank account info.
- assholepundit, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Not only that, but a mailer with a really ***** command of English. The subject line is "Linux most preferred than Windows".
I'd mark that spam too. But than, I'm not more better then spam filters in most things to. - bigtomrodney, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6And I'm sure the junky grammar in the email wasn't helping things. You know, that magical grammar that only Nigerian Princes can manage to use when asking to share their wealth with you.
- trogdoor, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9Either Digg users need to wake up and start burying ***** like this as inaccurate or the Digg devs need to change their algorithm because I haven't seen a story with the warning " Reported by diggers as possibly inaccurate " in ages, and you all know there has been a good deal of incredibly inaccurate stories that have made the front page. Seriously, what does it take for something to have a warning of being inaccurate? And who the hell is blindly digging this crap?
- shawnz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7did anyone think that there might actually be a REASON it was marked as phishing? IP different from domain, for example?
- Ademan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6lol we all still love your quote style...
- somegeologist, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8This is just dumb.
- DeFex, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Coyote's law:
When the same set of facts can be explained equally well by
1. A massive conspiracy coordinated without a single leak between hundreds or even thousands of people -OR -
2. Sustained stupidity, confusion and/or incompetence
Assume stupidity. - 1310nm, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Inaccurate, goodnight.
- HA5TY, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6lol...
oh, wait...... http://www.gmail.com - Ademan, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Do you have anything better to do than troll linux threads? I think you've FAILED at life! Congratulations.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Or you could just use tags in exactly the same way
- prammy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I don't use it much anymore, but I still have my hotmail account from 1996 :)
- Ademan, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5*****? Was that the best your pathetic brain could come up with? If you contest the information he posted, contest the information he posted, if you're butt hurt because it doesn't agree with your narrow view of the universe, ***** off.
- gazzerh, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Agreed. Complete *****. This doesn't say anything about the reasons it was marked.
Buried. - Ademan, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6No, what's pathetic is that you can't spell stupid right when you're calling him stupid, you're calling him names, and you can't have an intelligent discussion about what he posted. Yeah, it's five incidents, notice the first reply to him? He said it was a "wall-o-text", in other words, really ***** long, did you want him to post a five page report on why hotmail is *****? Would you like him to post a five page report on why hotmail is ***** in the digg comment system? Didn't think so, shut up.
- Megatog615, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8You get lots of cookies when you go to Hotmail.
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