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- nxusername, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20You can't be serious, can you? First of all, that is a total ripoff of Mac OS. Secondly, it's not even a good rip off.
At least the Gnome concept was original. - Boiler98, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Yes, steelmaverick, you should assume that what Linus says about a user-interface is correct, because Linus understands usability and human-centered design probably just as much as your average software engineer. That is to say... **nothing**!
(hoping I missed the "sarcasm" tag) - nxusername, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13I hope my Linux desktop of tomorrow looks like this:
http://desplesdadotcom.nfshost.com/?p=75 - MacHarborGuy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8personally, I think an "expandable interface" would be great, where there is different user levels (novice, intermediate, advanced) that had or do not have different feature sets based on user experience. I think this could actually put Linux on the map as a consumer OS rather than a techy OS.
Sort of like what Apple did with the Simple finder in the MacOS where it removes some of the more advanced features, clearing up the menus a bit for people. Take this to a higher level by going across the whole OS.
Microsoft sort of has it right with the advanced and not so advanced views for the Control Panels window, but with windows you are still given a huge number of options once you get past that window and actually enter the panel. Cleaning this up a bit could help.
Graphics Settings Options
Novice - Change colors, change resolution
Intermediate - Change Colors, change resolution, change multi-monitor settings, Change Color Configuration (brightness, gamma, etc)
Expert - All options avaliable
Just an idea, maybe not a good one, but hey, it's still an idea. - YHCIR, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Go away spammer. >:F
- groggyboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7i use linux precisely because its NOT windows (or macosx, either). i like the way linux looks and feels. i hope noone listens to you, donloper.
- leszek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7GoboLinux Filesystem
Gnome Portage accessible easily through Ubuntu Add Application gui
Beryl + emerald
When there is a problem and X cannot run, try to run X again with the vga driver and give 2 choises to the user :
- start desktop with the vga driver
- easy application to change the X driver and parameters - FastZ, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Why are all these types of surveys generally for corporate input? What about Linux on the desktop at HOME?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6The gobolinux file system where applications are in their individual containers like Mac OS X would be ideal.
consistent packaging across distrobution would be key, a gui tool that can handle rpms or debs and even configure, make and make install tarballs regardless of the system you're on (with alien capability) would be key.
and a helluva increase in eye candy and usability, full support for compiz/xgl would be ideal.
native wine support, and a lot better third party support for codecs and drivers
oh a boy can dream. - rynoon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5So make an OS that looks, acts and performs exactly like windows and runs windows software natively. This is your big money making idea? How many people do you expect to switch to an operating system that is EXACTLY like the one that came pre-installed on their computer and pay you for it? How do you intend to get Microsoft to supply you with all of the components required to run Windows software natively? How do you expect not to get your ass sued off by Microsoft?
Worst... idea... EVER! Don't quit your day job, kid. - DigeratiPrime, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6^ "Block/Report this User"
- mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Those who are concerned about the 'bottom bar' in that screenshot, guys, it's like the Windows taskbar where the applications you are using show up, and where they go when you minimize them. It's empty in the screenshot because no apps are running. Gnome by default has two bars, one on top and another on bottom. Of course you can change it however you like. But the screenshot design, admittedly, seems too rigid.
- drFUNK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Linux is not Windows: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
- Wootery, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"easy as windows", Gnome and KDE aren't themselves difficult to use, I think the difficult thing about using Linux is the package management. That definitely needs to be made easier. (And unified, but I digress.)
"looks like a mac", Apple isn't going to release OSX's look-and-feel under copyleft. Indeed, I'm not too sure if Baghira is legal.
"stable like unix", even Windows is stable nowadays, not to mention that Linux already has the stability thing down to, as they say, a tee. - CptnObvious, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I am not a fan of the pure white icons on the top bar, the bottom bar has almost no use (as jimbo2150 pointed out), the information panel is too big, I *HATE* it when it tries to make the screen corners curved, and too much empty space in the application menu/clip board/information panel (which I odd to me as that's the main KDE complaint I always hear).
Don't get me wrong, I like it, but it has some work to be done before it becomes completely practical. - groggyboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I noticed one significant omission from the list of distros that are jumping on the portland bandwagon - Ubuntu!
Personally, I like being able to choose between desktop environments. If the OSDL and Portland can make a program like amarok look good in Gnome, or make gnome apps look good in KDE, that's all i need! Standards, people, standards! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Automatic xorg backup after each change. Therefore, if X is unable to startup, prompt the user to restore their xorg.conf file. I couldn't tell you how much trouble that could have saved me in the early days.
- elastikos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3First of all it needs a really slick looking design, one which I'm yet to see so far. I work with someone who uses it religiously and keeps showing me 'great' GUI's, they always look like rubbish. Secondly, one which won't happen for a while, is applications from Adobe and all games working on Linux. Until that happens I won't switch.
- JonForTheWin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Beryl/Compiz as the window manager and composite manager, and something like gdesklets dashboard etc that properly take advantage of composite managers.
Gnome and KDE already provide good "desktops". - srg13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Mine does... If you don't want to wait for a native driver, just use NDISwrapper (took me 3 lines in the terminal) or get a supported card. After that it just works.
- MacHarborGuy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2eye candy is nice in some areas, but I wouldn't increase it "a helluva" as you suggest. Many people say that the MacOS is a lot of eye candy and that Vista is adding even more, but honestly, eye candy that works with the design and flow of the OS is better than eye candy for the sake of eye candy.
Now I haven't used Vista much yet, and definitely not on a system that is able to deal with Areo/Glass, so I will not make any judgments on weather those effects HELP the usage experience, but here are examples of ones that at least I know of in other systems...
MacOS/Windows Good Eye Candy: Drop shadows under windows. Helps spacial relations between different windows, gives a sense of depth and dimensions.
MacOS Good Eye Candy: Cube transition when switching users. This really sends home the idea of switching between 2 different spaces. This is also sort of used with Front Row where you are pulled away from the MacOS and into the FR interface.
MacOS Good Eye Candy: Fade transitions between different sections of the System Preferences. Again, it adds the feel of smoothly moving from one spot to another. Wish something like this was in my web browser actually, that way I don't have to watch the new page load up chunk my chunk.
MacOS/Windows Good Eye Candy: Solid dragged windows (where the window stays rendered rather than turning into an empty box). This effect has become standard now, works well, and helps keep track of windows while you move them.
MacOS Bad Eye Candy: It isn't much, but the water ripple when dropping in dashboard elements. I could do without that. It is mainly meant for other people looking at your system. It doesn't really HELP the usability of the OS, but luckily it isn't "in your face" enough to hinder usage.
MacOS So-so Eye Candy: Sucked/Genie windows to the dock. This is a nifty effect, again pulling in the "ooo's" and "ahhh's" from people because it "looks cool". After awhile you get used to it to where you don't notice it anymore, and it doesn't take up too much processing power so performance is really a non-issue with deacent systems.
When too much useless eye candy is put into an OS, it not only bogs it down, but also puts development time, effort and costs on things that just are not needed. Remember animated icons? For kids that is something of a novelty, having Elmo dancing around on the desktop, but for most users animated icons are just a burden and they will most likely turn it off. I used to have a few invader zim characters dancing on my desktop using Konfabulator/Yahoo Widgets, but that lasted about a week. - zitch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1XGL/Beryl/Gnome is what I'm running now.
- zitch, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Because getting the corporations to use Linux for the workstation will make it more likely the users of those systems to use Linux at home. It's much the same idea of why DOS became so popular in the 80s for home PCs.
- steelmaverick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Invader Zim 0wns.
- Xilon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I love that design, of course it needs some changes and would need to be very customizable (I hate a static interface... must be customizable).
One thing I must "bitch" about though; "‘Preferences’ and ‘Administration’ capplets into one package. Why split them?"
The Administraction and Preferences menues are very different, one is user-specific and the other is system-wide. I like it the way it is currently set out as it gives you an idea of what is going to be changed and it's much more logical this way. - ioannusdeverani, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Very nice. I would love to have this as my desktop
- nxusername, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's like I always say:
Linux is not Windows. Linux does not want to be Windows (or Mac OS). Linux is want it is. The only requirement is that it be free and open.
If you don't like it, don't use it. - Darthmalt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I want my linux desktop to detect wireless cards and make them just work. I shouldn't have to fight the command line only to fail to be able to connect to the internet. This is the reason I have an Ubuntu box sitting next to me that hasn't been turned on in days.
- zitch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1There's always the ReactOS project: http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html
It's not Linux, though.
Frankly, changing Linux as you say will destroy it. People use Linux because it's different. Some thing these differences are an improvement over Windows. Without those differences, there's no point to using Linux. - jambarama, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I hope it looks like this:
http://akaimbatman.intelligentblogger.com/wordpress/archives/10
Part one of a four part series, it is at once both high concept and utterly doable. - Excessive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This survey asks for "Corporate view of desktop", not user's views. Nobody cares the individuals, even on OSDL.
- jimbo2150, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3I like the GNOME version nxusername suggested. It looks pretty original. The only part I didn't like: The bottom bar. It looked to bland and useless and a waste of space unless you expect to put some more stuff down there.
- shrewduser, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1i want a symphony orchestra to play startup and shutdown musics with corresponding animations which are slightly random.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Desktop? How about some terminal improvements: http://h1.ripway.com/chesss/dirlist.png
As a new command line lover, it makes me sad to see the significance given to 'desktop' while the cli seems to be stuck unchanged - JrGhoull, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0i admit, i think linux should have the option that allows u to go from the linux setup, to the windows or mac setup. it would be like the 3 operating systems rolled into one in that sense, also by having it like that it might let people get used to a setup by slowly easing into it (maybe they could have tons of control over the interface and have certain sections more like windows and others like linux...if thats do-able) also if possible (i know nothing about programming) to have one of the key focuses in the build, so that it runs mac or windows software perfectly (or at least as good as it can) i'm not talkin about something like wine either, i'm talkin about an distro with this idea in mind while building it. also finally, i think, especially since its linux, that it should come with a whole bunch of documentation on programming (i am a moron, especially when it comes to programming, and if i could download free software which would come with a whole bunch of documentation on how to program, enough so at least that one could make fun little programs, maybe even programs that would take advantage of linux being open source, then at least i personally would be all the more encouraged to use linux
- sembetu, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Baghira looks like a Mac on stage at a Donkey Show.
- Dayz, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4@schestowitz
if you liek the Maclook get a Mac - mishaco, on 10/12/2007, -11/+6easy as windows
looks like a mac
easily to config
stable like unix
is as unlikely as marrying the perfect woman - donloper, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2How about making it look, act, and perform exactly like Windows and have complete compatibility with all Windows programs, except have it run on Linux and be either extremely cheap or free. Why do Linux people not understand that this is the only way to take out Microsoft? I'm not going to switch until Linux works more or less like Windows, which means allowing me to run all the programs I currently use. If somebody could do this they'd also make a lot of money, which some people are still interested in.
- steelmaverick, on 10/12/2007, -22/+5Linus himself said that Gnome sucks, so I'm not touching that with a 5m stick.
- schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -21/+4How about Baghira?
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=28612 - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -42/+1http://www.s183554677.onlinehome.us
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