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- bmartin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+37I'd like to point out that this was never meant to be a Ubuntu thing. It doesn't matter which distribution you're using; running that command and posting the output would be a great help. It'll be written in Python and licensed under the GPL. I intend to contact several distributions if word doesn't get out automatically. If you'd like to submit the output of the command listed on that page, it can be sent to wifish dot dev at gmail dot com. Thanks in advance.
- tgm4883, on 10/20/2007, -2/+14Thats not cool at all
- coredump0x01, on 10/20/2007, -3/+12For all those wondering what that does, it erases all your files. DO NOT RUN IT!!!!!
- mustiquefusion, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Why don't you start a project in source-forge, with more details, so many people can see your effort and perhaps help you?
Beginning that in Ubuntu forum, it is biased by default.
Good luck, though...It will be a very useful program - coolsteve, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9I think they only want people to post their information if their wireless works...
- geminitojanus, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Meh, he already said it's going to be written in Python under the GPL and is distro neutral. And I hope he hosts it on Launchpad or Google Code because Sourceforge is a cesspool.
- billalbertson, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Having used multiple Linux and BSD distros, I can say that I am really frustrated with the near complete lack of wireless support by Linux distributions. Just about every wireless chipset has working kernel module support for drivers. Precompiled, with documentation, and for every kernel release. Yet, not ONE Linux distribution can get working support on first boot. Not one. Or after install, for that matter, without significant user intervention.
Ubuntu? Ships with broken drivers you have to fix (except for those new dell laptops, hmmm). Redhat? Nope. Suse? Nada. Slackware? Nope. Derivatives? ROFLMAO...no. Top it off with the fact that some distros (like Ubuntu) won't support certain chipsets at all, not because they aren't FOSS, but because the distro(s) painted themselves into a corner by using subsystems that don't have great documentation and refusing to support anybody who doesn't waste their time putting more bloat into their kernel drivers just to get included in a release (and that should never be the kernel driver dev's problem, really).
On the other hand, the BSD's allow for running *net installs* from wireless. something like "ifconfig ral0 up && dhclient ral0" will get you started on a complete install over wireless. This isn't putting Linux distros down- its just showing where things could be improved if folks would stop wanking off to Compiz and other stuff that doesn't matter if you can't get online. - hyperair, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7You need an English teacher, badly.
- bmartin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5@daftman: No, this was an attempt by a Ubuntu forums member who also happened to be on digg to get a quick popular story. I've written a Python-based installer for the Broadcom firmware and ndiswrapper+bcmwl5 installer. We might use that code to create a the new "universal installer", or we might start fresh. Either way, we're hosting it on sourceforge. I'm wifish on there. It's me and one other guy so far. If you know Python, drop me an email there, as long as you can write Python code... or are a quick learner. I'm no pro; I could use the help.
@amillion3: It's neither helpful nor harmful. I'm using grep to parse the page contents. If I have to use another program to reformat the text, that's cool. I'm a lazy-ass programmer. I don't do any more work than is absolutely necessary. The more the merrier; I can keep a count to be "more sure" that the driver is correct. This stuff is all on file forever between Gmail and the Ubuntu forums. Even if I were to screw this up, the information is out there. If the ambition and wisdom are there, someone will get it right.
@arjie: I do. I'll be working on the legality issues with the Ubuntu guys. In a sense, I'm doing them a favor, and they're doing one for me. I want to get the ndiswrapper support working just like everyone else. I want to help everyone I can. - amillion3, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5What if our wireless card has already been posted? Do you want multiple versions for the same card?
- NiX0n, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I'm quite certain this will work on the Live CD. No real need for re-installation (that is, unless you want to).
- daftman, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Where is the program in question? I would like to help with the source. Is it on source forge currently?
- Foamator, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Damn, can't wait for this.
Crappy Wi-Fi drivers is what's standing between me and Linuxy heaven. - DarkN00b, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3This isn't meant to be a driver for your card. It'll be a way to get the driver for your card and and make it easy to install. Run the script, choose your options and install. bmartin has already created a similar installer for Broadcom cards. This will be a larger more sophisticated program, but it will do essentially the same thing. Give it a chance and you'll see what he can do.
- bmartin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3It is now. http://sourceforge.net/projects/wifix
It's in planning, but thanks to Digg users (and who knows where else), we have a lot of user data ready to start the hard part of our work. Thank you everyone for your help! - angedinoir, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I'm sure you got such a great response because you're question probably went something like, "Hey fags, is there any ***** out there that can help me with my my piece of ***** wireless."
- arjie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2What about ndiswrapper'd drivers? Do you want cards that only work under that also?
- tunapez, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3A ray of hope! This is the only deterrent to Linux on my laptop. Will reload OS and post by the weekend.
- Hortinstein, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1this is awesome...emulating drivers can be a nightmare...everytime i upgrade the kernel i have to reconfigure
- burty89, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1This sounds very promising, but I hope people don't become too dependent on it. The best way to get wireless working in Linux distros is to get open source drivers written, committed to the kernel & distributed in, well, the distros. This is happening but is a slow process without specifications, so things like this app will be useful to some in the short term, I just hope it doesn't detract from the efforts of the open source driver developers.
- secretrk1313, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I could have used something like this a week ago when i switched to ubuntu, i have a broad com based card and posted my results. Go Ubuntu!
- sandkiller, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I will help. :D
- tunapez, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Thanx for the heads-up, I missed a line there. Hope they can get the RaLink to connect w/ WPA, I tried a few config file edits with no luck. But as you can see, I'd make a horrible coder missing something this obvious:
"If your wireless connection is working,..." - darkNiGHTS, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Go die in a fire.
- canthraxp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Comment system SUCKS! I buried coredump0x01 beacuse he said that this command would delete all, and I though he was talking about the one in the forum post, not the one that aliengoods posted; now in sort-by-date view I can see my mistake, but not digg him again. Sorry man.
"rm" is remove, and "-r" means recursive, so it will delete a folder, and all subfolders inside. Buried for being a bitch.
(Did I double post? hope not.) - bmartin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1wifish dot dev @ gmail dot com
It's actually gonna be called WiFix. The name was voted on. WiFish was my girlfriend's idea. - bmartin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I agree. It's one thing to write a driver for an open or shared specification; it's another thing entirely to reverse-engineer a driver for about a dozen or so chipsets. Take a look at the Atheros/MadWifi project and the Broadcom/bcm43xx project at berlios.de. Those guys at the bcm43xx project need boards and donations to make their work happen, and even at that, only a few chipsets work. ndiswrapper is to wireless as Wine is to Windows apps: they're bridges. Support doesn't come over night; Linux is a great thing; it's a shame some people have to wait. Companies have to go where the market share is and writing drivers is hard work.
- srg13, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1All you need to do is to use NDISwrapper with the windows driver for your card - works for me
- Morm, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Well, I believe Ubuntu as of Feisty got my wireless working out of the box. But the reverse engineered Broadcom driver only supported 802.11b. I had to use ndiswrapper to install the Windows driver and then switched from Network Manager to Wicd and now my wireless works better than it did in XP. It connects to my access point the instant I'm on my desktop or restarting from hibernation.
So it may be a bit of pain, but it can work very well. Hopefully this project will give wireless another push in the right direction. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Why is this such an issue and amazing thing. If people who support Linux want it to be widely acceptable, things like this should have been created months ago and well polished by now. I know as a fact that this is why I and many others have yet to give Linux a proper chance.
- jarrod10, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I cant wait till this comes out im hoping they do something like this with pclinux to though cuz i have a dell 1390 wireless card and i wanna put linux on the thing but i pretty much need wifi.
- MWeather, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2Yes, just like the binary Nvidia driver is in the kernel.
- DrBob, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3Shouldn't all working wireless drivers be in the kernel, and thus not need to be installed (in fact, they should work by default by magic)?
I don't use wireless though, so forgive me if I've got the wrong end of the stick. - jonjo, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1open source driver developers? give me a break
- MBHoy, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1The title suggested to me that "Help" had created this program and it was readily available.
- bruenig, on 10/10/2007, -6/+2This looks like another automatix/envy disaster. Abstraction here is incredibly dangerous and irreversible most of the time because people don't know what is going on and so they can't undo it. But there are plenty of the click and pray people out there so I guess if they know the risk and go for it anyway, its all about freedom right?
- bruenig, on 10/10/2007, -6/+1This looks like another automatix/envy disaster. Abstraction here is incredibly dangerous and irreversible most of the time because people don't know what is going on and so they can't undo it. But there are plenty of the click and pray people out there so I guess if they know the risk and go for it anyway, good luck to them.
- tehmoth, on 10/10/2007, -6/+0wait, you mean people are intentionally using the name Ubuntu instead of Linux to get digs? How can this be.
- helmsb, on 10/10/2007, -8/+1You mean "Plug and Play"
- Bennybot4, on 10/10/2007, -9/+0HOLY ***** i have not even read the story yeat but the title says it all i was on a forum site and every one on the site was like come over to linux so i was like ok ill switch sounds fun but//////////////////////// when i started asking for help in how to install wireless drivers I GOT FLAMED TO HELL BY FAGS galore they were like find out your self , theres millions of guides...... i spent hours looking for ftfm type ***** for the card i had and nothing so i asked one more time and they were like your a noob go back to windows , and of course i went back to great old windows where u dont have to be a total fag to run
- aliengoods, on 10/20/2007, -26/+5It's 'rm -r /'. Unfortunately, you have to be logged in as root to run it.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -23/+0Sweet I will try this
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