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- kevinmotel, on 10/12/2007, -7/+70Lisa: Dad, what's a muppet?
Homer: Well, it's not quite a mop, and it's not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then continues in a serious manner) So, to answer your question, I don't know. - pseudojd, on 10/12/2007, -4/+35NASLite does this with a single floppy. And it supports 10/100/1000 Nic cards. And it's free.
- TonyCubed, on 10/12/2007, -16/+46Stop being muppets.
- slythfox, on 10/12/2007, -4/+30Yes, but submitting it again, especially after 231 days, people forget about it, and new users will have a chance to find it. Sometimes resubmitting something can be a good thing.
- locnguyen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21I have an old AMD pc in my room that I want to convert to a NAS or server of some sort. The only thing holding me back is electricity. How much does it cost to keep a home server up each month?
- squeevey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21not THAT much. couldn't be more than a few bucks. I've been doing it for years, and it's just a workstation in the closet
- smuirhead, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21There's also the heat it generates. I shut down a PC I wasn't using anymore and it's noticeably cooler (and quieter) in my office.
- socokoolaid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18NTFS support is read only..
- merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15A modern PC probably consumes something on the order of 250 watts (no monitor) (keep in mind that your '550W' powersupply doesn't always pull 550 watts -- that's really it's peak rating, and usually, it's inflated). That's 6 kwh/day, or 180 kwh/month.
My last PG&E bill says they charged me a little over 11.4 cents/month. That's just over $20 month total, for 180 kwh.
It really depends on your system, how you have power management set up, and how heavily you use it. The only real way to know what you're using is to pick up a Kill A Watt meter.
http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/7657/
If you want to save power, space, and noise, the Mac Mini is a great option, honestly. - iamausername, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16I agree, though sometimes its just kinda fun to do. also, a pc is ultimately more configurable.
though I always preferred building mine from scratch with debian.
for some people, its about the process, not the product. - philbrewer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Does NASLite support SATA? Don't think it does my friend.
- rolotomasi, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17So I have the choice of using a crappy, big, ugly, loud, power hungry old PC, or buying a small, completely silent device that uses very little power like the Linksys NSLU2 for 70 bucks? Thanks, I'll go for option B. It'll pay off if quickly if you consider the electricity costs.
All these "use your old PC to do X" stories have a big flaw: new hardware is so cheap that, all things considered, most of the time it makes more sense to buy a new specialized device. - JeremyBanks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Yes. No.
This is a file server, not a game server. - Fratm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11[Quoted from article]
Protocol: CIFS (samba) , FTP, NFS, SSH, RSYNC and AFP
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CIFS is samba.
-Fratm - bieber, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Listen to smuirhead. I had a friend once who had a room in his garage with three computers and two game consoles in it, and that room was beastly hot. Even the single workstation in my room that I leave on all the time makes the room noticably hotter than the rest of the house. So, if you have a problem with heat, it'd be best not to do.
- slythfox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9It's really not that buggy, since version 0.56. I actually find it extremely stable.
- sublime, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10From the site: FreeNAS is Alpha or Beta, its not a production release and it will have bugs in it. It is YOUR risk if you load valuable data onto FreeNAS.
Sorry. All my data is valuable. - SpacemanSpiff01, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11I bet you heard of this off of Hak.5 episode 2x02. (The one that came out yesterday.)
- surfactant, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Yep, saw that. Thanks! Don't know how I missed it...*smacks forehead*
- ravnwolf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Yes, economically it makes more since to buy a device for $100 to $200 for the specific task at hand (NAS, etc.) instead of using that old, dust collecting machine for the purpose. I've been down that road, running a W2K3 Server with 2 internal hard drives and two external firewire drives. It works great, but if I had it to do over again I'd buy a device made specifically for it. However, If you want the machine to pull double duty (i.e. web server, software test platform, etc.) then this may be the route to go.
- fishbert, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8And letting that old 300W power supply touch the wall outlet for the sole purpose of sharing files over the network? Just plain wasteful, inefficient, and costly.
- jorgevargas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I must have miss it 231 days ago.
- thelastknowngod, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8yeah i saw this on the most recent Hak.5 episode. looks really cool.
- cheeze69, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6All your data are belong to us!
- pseudojd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5in between 1 to 3 light bulbs of electricity depending on how old / inefficient. the new imacs's use less than a light bulb at full usage.
- gmillerd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Depends on where you are at, its not cheap though. I worked out how much having a computer on to just do p2p (edk and bt) with and it was about $20 a month. It was a compaq6400.
- EricJD, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Too bad my old PC's hard drive is only 8 gigs.
- calpis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5you can use a low wattage mobile cpu to cut down on the noise/heat/cost of keeping one up. like amd xp mobile chips that run at 35w (which can be underclocked and cooled passively too).
- themorbidhippy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8The lack of full NTFS support kinda kills it for me. Cool product though.
- rlanctot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Someone set us up the logic bomb!
- dwnwrd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5naslite-2 usb does, but ti costs 30 bucks.
- Jaymoon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5That's why you get a new blank hard drive, and have FreeNAS format it for you...
- cliffzdude, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Pretty cool, I've been using Lorma Linux as my file/print server. Once this matures I may try it as well.
For Windows users .nix and samba are all you need, the rest makes it easier to install/maintain/etc...
Check out Lorma Linux if you're thinking about building a file server. - zbilly, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5This is still pretty cool altough it's in beta.
You can do it with any distro of linux, but having a package, with a good webGUI is great. - cheeze69, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3If you can point me to one of these $70 low-power devices that support mirrored RAID (preferrably, with both drives installable into the enclosure of the device), I'll buy one right now and decomission my FreeNAS box. Until then, though, I want the mirrored drives and I've not found a Linksys/etc. that will do that.
- b0rg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Power consumption has two parts: First you need to figure out how much power the PC itself eats. If you're able to choose, I'd aim for a lower-speed AMD processor, and on-board video, since you probably won't even be connecting a monitor to it more than once.
Example: My "sandbox" computer, with two 7200rpm drives on it, burns up 87 watts at idle. During A/C season (here in houston, that's roughly January to December...), you also need to get rid of the heat it creates - which means, in very rough terms, doubling the power consumed. (Allowing the drives to spin down when inactive can cut the power and heat in half AND make the drives last longer)
Assume about 15 cents per kwh, the computer itself uses about 62kwh per month, which comes out to nine bucks and change. Call it $15 if you're also paying for A/C.
I used to keep a couple machines on 24x7 at home. Now I'm pretty serious about having everything go into standby after 40-60 min. - haastyle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3o man just made my PII 300mhz machine into a freeNAS BEAST!!! Hooked my modded xbox to it, o SWEETNESS, in heaven.....OWNAGE!!! streaming some music without the need for my main pc awesomeeeeeeee
- rockets, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3And after all this, still only read to NTFS...
Hello? There is read/write NTFS source already! - CompIsMyRx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I used this for a while, but found that it had some memory issues and would lock up after a while. Switched the OS to Xubunu (Ubutu with Xfce) and installed Samba to do the same thing.
- nathan1313us, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I've had a freeNAS server up for about 5 months solid and it runs great. The power consumption depends on the computer you use. I have an old p2 running it with 256mb of ram and the thing is amazing. It never crashes and works great with samba.
- CompIsMyRx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Actually, you can do that. It is an option you pick when installing.
- Daisuke, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3jorgevargas:
http://digg.com/linux_unix/NTFS-3G_-_Full_NTFS_read_write_support_for_Linux
Figured I'd let you know ;) still in development stages (I think..), but supposedly very stable for writing and probably good enough for the average user. - dangmoss, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Freenas rocks.... I have used it as a backup server for SBS installs...
- sigmaman2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You don't need NTFS, unless you already have data on the drive that you want to share.
- webcrumb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"But muppets are funny."
But unfortunately not technically competent. Though they can get into space, they can't operate a keyboard. Or eat cookies. - Technopundit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I wouldn't trust this.
My NAS appliance connects happily to my wireless router, uses very little electricity, times out and shuts down when not in use, and cost less than 100 dollars. I use an old 40 gig drive that was laying around on a shelf. - monergism, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You shouldn't use NTFS unless it is for your native OS.
- cessax, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i
- RayQ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Captive-NTFS has served me well every time. Using NTFS on the Windows side because of the 4G limit, and just overall performance. Local system is ReiserFS. Windows can read ReiserFS with some tools, and Linux can read NTFS with the captive-ntfs pseudofilesystem via FUSE.
- jorgevargas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1to the poster, thanks for the link if you got it of hak.5 (if they change it someone has to tell that to wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hak.5 vs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hak5)
anyway I'll probably watch that some days/weeks from now so thanks. reading the docs now and I'll probable install it in a PC I have next to me. -
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