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- falloutsyndrome, on 04/22/2008, -2/+90I've been Windows free for about 4 years now. I honestly feel free on the Linux platform. I started with Fedora Core, but when Ubuntu came out I gave it a shot. Right now I'm on 8.04 and I really must say, watching Ubuntu grow up has been almost like watching a child grow into a respectable adult. 8.04 is a solid piece of software and I'd recommend it to anyone. Ubuntu has my full support even in their endeavors as a mobile software solution.
/end fatherly rant. - SDL486, on 04/22/2008, -7/+63I'm really interested to see what ubuntu is like on a mobile phone. This article is getting me really excited about the future of ubuntu, I can really see it penetrating the market in 5 years. I've been using Gutsy for a little over 6 months and I'm just as used to it as I was with M$ Windows XP.
- stix213, on 04/22/2008, -3/+44As a computer tech I used to like Windows in general, but now that I've been using Ubuntu for the last 3 releases on my home and work machines I have found that I cannot stand using a Windows machine anymore. Windows is just so sluggish and boring.... I also hate that in every new version they try to hide more of the inner workings of the OS from you, even though those inner workings will fail at some point and need a tech to repair them.
A Linux machine is just so much easier to fix if you know what you are doing. All the settings aren't stored in easily corruptible registry files, that can't be edited with a text editor. The OS is completely modular with only limited interdependencies, so when there is a problem it is already isolated (When you mess up IE in Windows sometimes half your apps can't connect to the network anymore because Windows networking and IE are integrated for some ridiculous reason) - balazsbela, on 04/22/2008, -3/+36Firefox 3 is beta, but it's a lot better than Firefox 2 when you look at memory usage or (in my case) stability.
- CrackyJSquirrel, on 04/22/2008, -0/+26I have tried a couple myself.. And am finding Ubuntu to be the best work out of the box distro for my laptop.. I am slowly becoming an Ubuntu fanboy, god save us all..
- Picer, on 04/22/2008, -5/+29Linux would wipe the floor with all OS's, but only if developers of popular programs created versions for Linux, or made versions that work with WINE, instead of relying on some pissed off WINE user cobbling up a solution. The GUI is steadily getting better too, with Linux.
- inactive, on 04/22/2008, -5/+24What I don't get, is since it's a LTS release, they're including the Firefox beta as default. I thought the point of LTS was to be as stable as possible?
- pr0gr4mm3r, on 04/22/2008, -0/+17Ubuntu 8.04 is shipped with Compiz Fusion, not Beryl.
- cronot, on 04/22/2008, -1/+17"You have problems with your hardware.. and yet people just want to try to ignore it instead of helping you... whats with that?"
Sorry, he isn't looking for help, otherwise, he'd have worded his comment differently. In fact, if he was really willing to put on any effort to make it work, he probably would have it already working. He's just bashing, plain and simple.
I agree that there are Ubuntu fanboys that may wrongly dismiss some legitimate calls for help, but his comment is as useless as the fanboys attitude. - arthurdent3, on 04/22/2008, -0/+14ITs the chicken and egg argument for apps on linux. Users want more apps before they consider using it and app developers say that they need more linux users before they will port an app.
What ever happened to the build it and they will come. Application vendors need to start testing the waters a little more and maybe they will see that people will be there to purchase their products. - SSUK, on 04/22/2008, -8/+21All the cool kids say M$!
- mossblaser, on 04/22/2008, -2/+15As DemonWasp says but also really you will not have to use a terminal in linux any more than in windows or OS X. Also, things "not working the way you expect" - come on thats like acting surprised that a jet is "not the way you'd expect" having learned to drive a car. If by annoyances you mean inconsistent software installers [windows], rename your home folder because you don't realise what might happen only to find all your applications just break [mac os], random security warnings [windows vista], being locked into one hardware vendor [mac os], antivirus and other software being neccesary [windows], haveing lots of seperate update managers for all your apps [both], having to browse the net manually to find a program then take the leap of faith that it is not some dodgey virus, then install it, then find it needs some other app to run, find that app.. repeat.. [both], not be able to (with no legal qualms) run the OS from a CD or portable drive to fix a problem or to run on someone elses' computer [both], not including pissing rsync (or similar) [both] not being able to burn ISOs without 3rd party software or a terminal [both], having shifty closed source licenses [both], controlling company having questionable business practices (anti-trust and blatently ignoring the EU) [windows], having advertisments that spent thier time slagging off the competition [mac os] and the list goes on....
- directrix13, on 04/22/2008, -0/+12Well, Firefox 3 beta 5 is very stable. And Firefox 3 final will be out in June. I seriously doubt there will be too many stability issues, as most progs that use the Gecko engine probably either embed the Gecko engine itself or use XULrunner now.
- UKsHaDoW, on 04/22/2008, -0/+12the animal names are unoffical dev names. The real name is Ubuntu 8.04
- stix213, on 04/22/2008, -2/+14Ahhh, I'm still waiting for "Lacerating Liger" though....
- shredswithpiks, on 04/22/2008, -1/+11the proper answer is to get linux installed on enough home desktops so that game developers will have some native installs for us
- bigsteve, on 04/22/2008, -4/+14Well thankfully, you of course reported your instance of failure (lspci and dmesg output, hardware model numbers, etc) to the developers via the appropriate channel. Luckily, the devs are very helpful with their instructions on how to communicate such data to them.
Because otherwise you'd just be another ***** wanting something for nothing.
Good thing you did that. - DarkDx, on 04/22/2008, -0/+10Beryl is so 2007
- freedomorfire, on 04/22/2008, -2/+12the hardy heron beta really impressed me. all my hardware worked with no hacking or anything (even webcam) and beryl worked out of the box too.
cant wait for full release - Acglaphotis, on 04/22/2008, -0/+9When viewing flash content, Firefox2 gets slow and unresponsive :
- init100, on 04/22/2008, -0/+9I'm not going to suggest The GIMP as a replacement for Photoshop, but what unique features do you need in WinAMP that are not available in Linux music players?
- bigsteve, on 04/22/2008, -1/+10ffmpeg. Took 8 seconds on google.
- PleaseJustDie, on 04/22/2008, -0/+9I like it, its quick and easy to remember and makes finding support for your specific version easier since I can type "feisty fawn nvidia driver" and get a walkthrough for specifically ubuntu feisty fawn, while if I put "ubuntu 6 nvidia driver" I will also see results in there for gutsy gibbon, hardy harpy, earlier versions, etc. It may sound kinda kooky, but it really does make some things easier to deal with.
- gn0stik, on 04/22/2008, -0/+9beryl doesn't exist anymore.
- gn0stik, on 04/22/2008, -0/+9He was correct as well. In fact his comment shows hes been doing this for a considerably longer time than you have.
- powatom, on 04/22/2008, -0/+9Not really, it just means they support it with upgrades for longer - meaning it's better for production machines in the long run. It's also more likely that any issues which arise will get fixed, rather than people simply waiting for the next release.
- intangible, on 04/22/2008, -1/+10Why are you installing apps from the command line instead of double-clicking the .deb package?
Or try exploring the "System->Administration" menu... "Synaptic" is the GUI way to find and install packages if you don't want to find them on your own on the net. - bigsteve, on 04/22/2008, -3/+12Ubuntu has done something amazing. It's put Linux into the hands of so many who normally would have never touched it. It's replaced Mandrake/Mandriva as my recommended distro of choice for newcomers to the Linux scene. I've always sort of predicted that it'll really only take three major things to give Linux desktop adoption the push that it's had in these past few years. 1) A major distro with fantastic out of the box hardware detection and support. 2) a major distro with a fantastic online support presence, complete with tutorials detailing common tasks ("I wish to play DVD movies on my laptop.." such things were very difficult 7 years ago) and 3) that these two distros would hopefully, in fact, be one distro.
One very irritating thing, though, is Ubuntu's big name coming back to haunt it by way of a very vocal ignorant minority of people who aren't willing to put time into desktop Linux to make it work (especially if you're not a driver programmer..) or who don't know exactly what they're getting into. Those who don't understand the dynamic of why some hardware works in limited or non-existant fashion. I just hope the FUD and crap spread by these users doesn't undo too much of the great work Ubuntu has done of bringing new people to the table. - OneLess, on 04/22/2008, -0/+9Apple names their OS iterations after cats and Microsoft's current Windows version is named after a scenic view. Not a whole lot of choice as far as names go out in the market. At least the latest version of Ubuntu has the word "hardy" in it.
- cawpin, on 04/22/2008, -3/+12The new beta releases of Firefox are as stable, if not more so, than the the last "stable" ones.
- Morghin, on 04/22/2008, -3/+11This is the release that will most likely tip me over to Linux :)
- weizbox, on 04/22/2008, -0/+7'You must have faulty hardware.'
If what your saying is true.. than it would appear the update would have damaged his hardware... which I know isn't the case. Some wifi adapters still are having some issues... luckily the new 2.6.25 kernels are giving them some more support.. If he had them working previously.. he should be able to now, it just might take some work. - stix213, on 04/22/2008, -3/+10"fdisk /mbr" from an XP boot disk would have fixed your last problem
- arjie, on 04/22/2008, -4/+11Not true. I have a brand new Vista machine (some of my recent comments show me supporting Vista). However, when Windows Update failed to install one update you know what it said? Failed. Error code: 8008005. And there's a helpful link next to it which points to _some other_ code in the help documents. Easy to fix? *****.
Error code, in this day and age. - latova, on 04/22/2008, -0/+7You can love both, its called dual booting.
- weizbox, on 04/22/2008, -1/+8Just keep in mind where a great deal of those changes came from ;)
Xorg 7.3 has made some great improvements(RandR 1.2,Input Hotplug). Gnome with GVFS, Window Composting, Google Calendar support in Evolution, etc.
What Ubuntu-specific changes did you like most about the new version? I have yet to give it a try :) - mossblaser, on 04/22/2008, -0/+7Its unfortunate, but i must point out, for every TV card I've come accross, its not just stayed out of trouble, its worked out of the box 100%, teletext and all.
- weizbox, on 04/22/2008, -2/+8pop the cmos battery out? ;)
- yetAnotherCroc, on 04/22/2008, -0/+6What names for releases? Ubuntu 8.04 seems to follow fairly regular run of the mill software naming conventions.
If you are talking about Hardy heron then that is just the development codename. Kind of like Whistler for XP, Blackcomb/Longhorn for Vista and Albany for Windows 7. Dont see how those codenames are any less stupid then Hardy Heron - cawpin, on 04/22/2008, -1/+7Locked BIOS? Do you mean the BIOS has a password on it? If so, look around the web for a solution. Almost all can be reset without knowing them. You just have to read up on it. I've done two myself in the past.
- weizbox, on 04/22/2008, -3/+9The apps are really what's going to make a mobile platform shine.. the OS sure means a lot too.. but a lot of the things that Ubuntu is famous for will be almost non-existent in mobile devices (Wubi, bulletproof X, hardware detection, etc).
You seem to be pretty gun-ho for Ubuntu, but have only used it for 6 months.... have you tried any other distros out? - cyberwiz01, on 04/22/2008, -0/+6Superficial Stigma is an upcoming Ubuntu release.
- fredmv, on 04/22/2008, -2/+8update-manager -d, folks. I'd urge anyone that has been shying away from the world of GNU/Linux to give Ubuntu a fair, honest try. Hardy is without doubt the most stable, robust release yet. You just may find that it's the best operating system you've ever used. I'd venture out to say that many would never even touch Windows again.
- latova, on 04/22/2008, -0/+6No. Considering that we're talking about ubuntu here, we're not using FF3 on OSX.
Its very stable for Hardy Heron, if you have problems under a completely unrelated OS then I suggest downloading the latest beta, contacting the developers, or waiting for the final release. - angrylinuxgeek, on 04/22/2008, -0/+6Thinkpads have security features to keep you from getting around it like that. t8ert0t was correct, you have to make a dongle or send it to support.
- chmcarro, on 04/22/2008, -13/+19I know that this is an unpopular opinion, but I have to say that Hardy Heron(or linux in general) is no Windows replacement, as much as I'd like it to be. There are so many subtle annoyances that make it inferior to OS X, XP, and Vista. I can list several things that don't work as expected and I would get many replies on how to fix it at the terminal. But that is the problem. Normal users shouldn't have to deal with a terminal.
- almighty, on 04/22/2008, -2/+8As much as I love Linux and Ubuntu, this is all the article had to say:
The new Ubuntu version is coming out. It has new KVM visualization support for the server, it can be easily tested in Windows, and better support for some media types.
There is no other good info in this article. Why is this on the front page? - intangible, on 04/22/2008, -0/+5Then your grandmother will download the .deb file just like she downloads the .exe or .msi in windows and will double-click it. Done.
- 000dom000, on 04/22/2008, -0/+5I have a TV card and it operates exactly as it did before. I am still having problems with external drives being messed up, but I'm expecting a big change as we get the final release.
- Rauby, on 04/22/2008, -0/+5Dude, I use FF3 all the time on OS X and it is SOOOO much stable in compare with FF2.
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