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- Dumbledorito, on 04/25/2008, -23/+176Yes, it's the Year of Linux, again, for the first time, this year.
- BlueSkyfish, on 04/25/2008, -4/+78There will be no year of Linux, just a gradual change. And it won't go mainstream until retailers start giving the option to have it preinstalled. A little advertising wouldn't hurt either.
- weizbox, on 04/25/2008, -22/+56Ubuntu is a great distro to have people install that don't know much about partitions.. but past that (past Wubi), the distro is about on par with any of the other major recent distros. Why is there so much hype with Ubuntu specifically when the majority of the things Ubuntu is praised for (6/7 topics in this article) are things that pretty much every desktop distro has?
I'm really starting to dislike all these all-pro articles. It's great to mention the good things about Linunx and Ubuntu, but with all the issues a lot of people run into, you've gotta mention something about it. Since he's targeting new users, I feel it's essential that he say something about the possibility of not detecting all your hardware, etc.
I know Ubuntu/Canonical isn't too honest on that end to begin with by saying it 'Just Works' and 'Once Ubuntu is installed, all the basics are in place so that your system will be immediately usable.'... but we all know this isn't always the case. I think we'll get a lot more people to join Linux if we're honest about it.. I think it's a turnoff to a lot of newcomers if they're told everything will be fine, only to end up not having their internet work or have to go through forums and howtos in order to get permission to write to their external hard drive, etc... stuff that ideally, SHOULD 'Just Work'. - weizbox, on 04/25/2008, -8/+35sudo apt-get install blowjob?
- buddyw, on 04/25/2008, -4/+27If you downloaded that blow job package from the whore repository it probably installed herpes-lib as a dependency.
- oderdigg, on 04/25/2008, -5/+28You mean how Dell now has Ubuntu pre-installed?
- Tyr7BE, on 04/25/2008, -2/+22What's the problem? I have a nvidia card that's less than a year old, and it was one of the very first cards to get desktop effects. Works like a champ and never gives me sass. Plus I get a desktop that's smoother than anything offered by MS or Apple.
If anything I'd recommend people get nvidia cards. When you install Ubuntu, just start it up and check the system preference that says "I want awesome desktop effects" and it will do what it needs to do to make it happen. - oderdigg, on 04/25/2008, -5/+24You think Gnome is a Win95 simulation? Wow.. ignorance knows no bounds.
- RubberBinder, on 04/25/2008, -0/+17If you really feel that windows will be used more often then virtualize Ubuntu in XP, but if you only use windows for office you can run Office 2003 in Wine with little trouble, or virtualize XP in Ubuntu if you are set on office 2007 which isn't able to run in Wine YET.
On the second part of your comment, Wine is a program that makes apps think they are running on Windows whereas Virtual Box is a program that can be used to Virtualize another operating system so, you would install XP with Virtual Box were you to decide to run virtual XP in Ubuntu.
In the end it is all up to you, I use Ubuntu, XP, and OSX and they all have their pros and cons, I would suggest installing virtual Ubuntu in XP so that you can get a feel for how it works and if it is right for your needs and then from there you could install Ubuntu on its own and run virtual XP. Hope all of this helps. - Kamujin, on 04/25/2008, -1/+17This is really easy to understand if you stop thinking Ubuntu's popularity somehow means your favorite distro is not as good.
Short version of why Ubuntu is popular.
1) Google your problem with the word Ubuntu in it.
2) Get a good relevant answer.
3) Achieve Linux oriented goal in reasonable amount of time.
Keep using the distro you like. Just remember, your on the same team as Ubuntu. Apple's and Microsoft's monopolistic by design business models are the enemy. - zwaldowski, on 04/25/2008, -2/+17LTS != No Bugginess At All
LTS == Supported Long Time - purag66, on 05/13/2009, -6/+20I'm a n00b so bear with me here. What's better: running virtual XP in Ubuntu or running virtual Ubuntu in XP?
Also, I thought Wine was the virtualization "program," not Virtual Box.
I was going to switch to Ubuntu until Office 2007 came out....sigh....I hate Open Office for some reason. - Tyr7BE, on 04/25/2008, -0/+13Just search for your wireless card and linux support. It will tell you if it's sketchy or if it's solid.
You could also just pop in the install CD. It will boot directly off the CD into the OS and you can use some of the basic stuff without ever touching your hard disk. If you decide you hate it, just remove the cd and reboot and you're back in windows. The LiveCD approach won't get you a lot of goodies though (like desktop shadows and effects, etc). - KloroFormd, on 04/25/2008, -3/+15Do you see Microsoft saying the same thing about hardware support in Vista? Nope. It's the hardware manufacturers fault.
And most hardware DOES work out of the box in Ubuntu. I can't even get Vista to burn a CD. For some reason my burner is detected as a DVD drive and not a DVD/CD-RW. - mindwarp, on 04/25/2008, -1/+12MaxMWood:
The statement "Linux supports practically nothing without having to install WINE" is what you are getting burried for. Ubuntu comes with a Web Browser, Video player, Music Organizer, CD Ripper, CD Burner, Photo Organizer, Picture Editor, Instant Messanger etc right out of the box. If you are looking for a program and need help, send me an email directly at sharms AT ubuntu DOT com and I will answer any other questions you have.
That being said, if you grew up with Windows, and don't want to invest time learning, then staying with Windows is a great choice too. This isn't a war, everything can coexist. - saturn5, on 04/26/2008, -1/+12Yes, that's what he means. It's very hard to find on their website. There are no TV or print ads for it. It's not sold in any stores that carry Dells. And no other major OEM has followed Dell and offered Ubuntu, despite Linux fanboy predictions that they all would be by now. I wonder how long Dell will continue with it.
- Mohdoo, on 04/25/2008, -3/+13I will continue to show my support for all this improvement. still waiting for the day all my games run native. Just give it time. If Linux keeps growing, it'll happen =)
- JohnFlux, on 04/25/2008, -0/+10To be fair, the fake hardware raid thing is because windows can't do soft raid by default, whereas linux can. Fake hardware raid is just simply a device driver for windows with a small patch for the bios to just to boot it.
- vertexoflife, on 04/26/2008, -0/+10Compiz. Youtube it, it includes some of the things vista and osx can do, but much more and farther beyond.
- ralphthemagi, on 04/25/2008, -0/+10Well, maybe they were included BECAUSE it's an LTS release. They are going to support it for years, so they'll worth through the issues with updates.
LTS just stands for Long Term Support. It doesn't mean that the release is supposed to be flawless and stand the test of time without being updated. And on the server side, things like PulseAudio don't really matter. - Daniel591992, on 04/26/2008, -0/+10It's out since yesterday.
- tatinthehat, on 04/25/2008, -2/+12LEST WE FORGET: Linux is all about choice. I can choose what distro I want to use, from Slackware to SUSE, I can choose what desktop environment I want from Gnome to OpenBox, hell I can choose what window manager I want to use like Metacity or Compiz.
If you're complaining about "how great ubuntu isn't", get back under that rock. Who cares if ubuntu isn't "as good" as what you would like it to be, that's why there are other distros.
Let's face it, Ubuntu has made Linux easily accessible to many people due to it's simplicity, and has additionally spurred other distros to compete with it. In the end, Ubuntu is better for the end user...whether you even use it or not. - oderdigg, on 04/25/2008, -1/+11I run Ubuntu 99% of the time and I have VMware server running (also free) and I have up to 2 virtual machines running. Perfect for testing deployment as you have the option to revert back to an old snapshot and it only takes 1-2 mins. Sure beats un-installing!
BTW: I just did a cdrom-based upgrade to Hardy.. .holy *****.. amazing.. Just when you think things can't get better, they do.
Until you go back into Windows that is.. - Deodrus, on 04/26/2008, -1/+11I installed Ubuntu today - my first time with Linux. I've spent the whole day tweaking and configuring it for my laptop.
I'm loving every minute of it !! - MaxMWood, on 04/25/2008, -3/+13Please correct me if im wrong instead of burying me.
- Daniel591992, on 04/25/2008, -2/+11It wont go mainstream until hardware companies start releasing drivers for it. I can't wait until that happens. I wish Windows, Mac, and Linux all had a 33% market share. That would be perfect.
- jejones, on 04/26/2008, -0/+9All I can say is: I fired up synaptic, did a search for virtualbox, and there it was.
- sloppychris, on 04/26/2008, -0/+9Considering Dell has added models, they will probably continue for awhile.
- oderdigg, on 04/25/2008, -0/+9That will change. I work for an IT company and almost most users are Windoze, we have many that are Debian, Ubuntu, Mac. It's just a matter of time before people look at Windows like something people 'had' to use when there was no Ubuntu.
- TeamBaldwin, on 04/25/2008, -0/+9I agree... I dont think the author knows what he/she is talking about. Like this sentence for example...
"Head to Medibuntu's wiki page and copy and run the appropriate codes for your system."
The appropiate codes? Come on, at least try and hide your technical ignorance - Planets, on 04/25/2008, -5/+13VirtualBox comes with Hardy Heron? If not, why is it part of this article?
- vertexoflife, on 04/26/2008, -1/+9Uh...It's much easier to problemsolve for ubuntu because it has a bigger userbase...I've found it much easier to solve problems on Ubuntu than on Suse or Gentoo or others. It didn't stop me from trying out other distros but it is much easier.
- wellyuk, on 04/25/2008, -0/+7"Linux supports practically nothing without having to install WINE"
Practically nothing? By nothing, do you mean "support no Windows applications"? Otherwise you're completely wrong, hence your burying.
Take a look at: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/ - which isn't even a percentage of Linux software out there - and tell me again that it "supports practically nothing".
You firstly say you're a Linux and Windows user, then you say you love Linux and then almost immediately after say "but I just cant see myself using it thats all."
How about you make up your mind? - mvent2, on 04/26/2008, -0/+7Actually, no you don't.
- weizbox, on 04/25/2008, -2/+9Just to clear some things up, WINE runs individual programs and VirtualBox runs an entire OS.
'What's better: running virtual XP in Ubuntu or running virtual Ubuntu in XP?'
I can't say.... maybe someone knows this better than I do, but I would assume running XP inside of Linux would work the most efficiently. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
What features are there in Office 2007 that you like that Open Office doesn't have? - davem2312, on 04/25/2008, -0/+7The way things are installed in linux in general is much more streamlined than the way Windows or OSX has it done. Sure, you can't just go download an exe, but you can go download a deb, or rpm. The only difference is often times distributors have not already packaged the software into a deb, which requires compilation. This is not a factor of linux, but instead a factor of software distributors.
The reason I say linux software management is much more streamlined is that imagine in Windows a program that keeps track of all of the exe files you have downloaded, and updates them automatically for you, and makes them easy to remove. Windows has "Add/Remove Software", but sometimes that doesn't really work, as it only hard links to the own program's uninstaller, not an overall system uninstaller.
Once debs/rpms become more popular, go go package management. - oderdigg, on 04/25/2008, -2/+9No offense dude but it sounds like you don't know what you are doing or are too proud to look around for help. I've been using Ubuntu 99% of the time since 6.06 came out and each upgrade is better by and large over the last version.
FYI, Beryl = dead, it's now called Compiz-Fusion. - Adam420, on 04/26/2008, -0/+7Im sure it can do everything you want it too, you just dont know how.
In this new version I havn't been able to get Shockwave to work though, I did in the last version worked fine, anyone know how? Please help if you do. - weizbox, on 04/25/2008, -3/+10The difference between Firefox and Ubuntu is that Ubuntu clearly is being deceptive when it comes to it's products. It knows that there is a ton of hardware out there that won't be working out-of-the-box, or in some cases at all, and yet they say this isn't a problem in their advertisements.
Advertising is good, but keep it honest and balanced.... especially if your going to write a review on something. I already know a few people that got turned off the Linux because they thought it was going to be easy, and had to search over forums and howto's to just get they're external hardware working, and some more steps to have write privileges on it.
I don't want Linux's image to become the kid who cried 'it Just Works' because of Ubuntu. - mehigh, on 04/25/2008, -2/+9unfortunately hardy heron suffers from a major bug. Most of the users with nvidia gfx card can't use the accelerated driver and we're stuck with the Vesa one.
Does anyone have a solution for this? - davem2312, on 04/25/2008, -0/+6This should read
Too bad ATI is known for poor Linux support
Too bad (for you) Nvidia is known for great Linux support - Kyan, on 04/26/2008, -1/+7Gamers are an infinitesimally SMALL segment of the market. Games are not the selling point. E-mail, web and word processing are the real selling point.
- TeacherOfHeroes, on 04/25/2008, -2/+8I realize you're probably trolling, but what the hell...
autorun.inf points to umenu.exe, which can be used to select between a regular install (reboot, partition, etc...) and the Wubi installer (ubuntu entry in windows bootloader, mount root filesystem from a file on the windows partition, etc...) . So you don't even need to go looking for setup.exe - cesclaveria, on 04/25/2008, -0/+6well, you really can't blame the distros for that.
The blame falls on the developers who make windows only games, there is just a few that make native games for linux (Epic and ID software come to mind) - SDL486, on 04/25/2008, -2/+8i agree with your response, why don't people give you some reasons as to why you're wrong instead of burying you.
- wolferz, on 04/25/2008, -3/+9I disagree with you in regards to ubuntu vs other distros. And before you write me off as a ubuntu fan boy read my other comments regarding Linux. I'm no fanboy.
However, I do like to give credit where credit is do. Yes, every modern distro out there does what ubuntu can do... but then again so does Windows Vista. *Waits for you to pick your jaw off the floor* My point is that the question isnt whether or not Ubuntu does something new... it's whether or not it does it better. Ubuntu, by default, comes with gnome as it's window manager. Gnome is a simple, sleek, yet robust, and feature rich interface. It comes with many of the most common tools users would need and has a simplified means of managing software and hardware drivers. "But wait!" you say, "So does Suse." Yes it does, but it is my humble opinion that Ubuntu does it better. Last time I tried the comp[letely open source Suse it didn't tell me hardware hadn't been detected. It didn't offer to go fetch the proprietary (and capable of dual head) drivers for my ati card. It didn't offer to fetch the filters and such I needed to play divx and quicktime files. Ubuntu was offering that functionality then. I know it was because it was Suse that I left when I started using Ubuntu.
Ubuntu is deserving of it's hype in regard to other distros, IMHO. Though perhaps not in regard to being ready for Sue the mother three. I agree with you on that. - zadadka, on 04/25/2008, -2/+8Broadcom NICs are awful in Windows too.
Stay clear of them.
Period. - Kamujin, on 04/25/2008, -0/+6I agree with the above and would add that if they didn't include these changes, it would be too outdated long before its support period ended.
- Ademan, on 04/26/2008, -0/+6*cough* standards *cough*
- Disease, on 04/26/2008, -1/+7So use smoother fonts.
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