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- ieure, on 04/29/2008, -12/+86Peers, eh? How many of those jurors wrote kick-ass journaling filesystems?
Peers, my ass. - godofpumpkins, on 04/29/2008, -4/+78He sure sounds guilty, from what I've heard (the whole getting rid of the car seat and the blood, etc.)
but I don't get why the jury was instructed to disregard the fact that his friend (and the man with whom his wife was cheating on him) happened to have murdered 8 people... it seems at least partially relevant to her disappearance investigation, given that she was having an affair with a serial murderer... - tsotha, on 04/29/2008, -0/+54Reiser may or may not have written a kick-ass file system (opinions differ), but he made one stupid blunder after another regarding his wife's disappearance, whether or not he was guilty. This is almost a textbook case of what *not* to do when you're accused of a crime. For one thing, you should never, ever, talk to the cops unless you are the victim. Anyone who's watched Law & Order knows the cops are allowed to lie to you, make false promises, whatever it takes. But you're in big trouble if you lie to the cops. And you never take the stand in your own defense, no matter how smart you think you are. Prosecutors know how to trip people up - they do it for a living. The last thing you want to do is get up on the stand and get caught lying, as Reiser did.
In all probability he probably would have been convicted anyway. For one thing, he took the seat and carpet out of his car and threw them away, then hosed out the inside of the car. Who hoses out his car? And then he didn't have any sort of reasonable explanation for his behavior. He said he took the seat out so it would be easier to sleep in the car, but he left an inch of water sloshing around on the floor. And he left two books on murder investigations in the car. Oh, and some of her blood was in the car as well.
When they caught him he had his passport and thousands of dollars in cash on his person. He'd taken the battery out of his cellphone so the cops couldn't find him using e911. At first he claimed he did it because he thought the battery would last longer, but then later admitted he was lying.
When the cops found the wife's car her cellphone was in it , with the battery taken out of that phone as well.
He picked up his kids from school the day after his wife disappeared but before she was reported missing. The problem is it was her day to pick up the kids, and he didn't call her to change plans. So... how did he know she wouldn't be there to pick up the kids?
It's really hard for me to imagine he could be innocent. - DeathJux, on 04/29/2008, -4/+56sudo rm -Rf /wife
:-( - Brian48216, on 04/29/2008, -4/+43I like how so many people are up in arms.
Programmers are as human as the rest of the population and are completely capable of committing murder just like everybody else. - WoundedTownsmen, on 04/29/2008, -1/+38Everyones so flabbergasted and appalled at how he could be convicted without hard evidence or a body. Sometimes circumstantial evidence can paint enough of a picture to prove guilt without reasonable doubt (Not ALL doubt, it's called reasonable doubt for a reason).
- Hosed out the interior of his car, removed the seat and carpet; both the latter never recovered
- Found in his car: sleeping bag with her blood on it along with two books on murder which he bought days after her disappearance
- Paid retainer fee on a lawyer just days after her disappearance, before even trying to call her
- Wife's car found next to his house, rotten groceries and her cell phone with the battery removed found inside
- Brought into custody carrying thousands in cash and a passport
Yeah, it's circumstantial but the nail in the coffin was his explanations for them. If he would have shut up and listened to his lawyer is probable he would have been found innocent. - PJBovoNox, on 04/29/2008, -13/+46What the *****? You think because he did some open-source work he should be acquitted of murder?
Thank god you don't run the world. - toastgodsupreme, on 04/29/2008, -4/+37Indeed, what happened to reasonable doubt?
Without a body, a murder weapon, or copious amounts of blood, how exactly does he get found guilty?
Sure he LOOKS guilty from all that weird crap. But there's no hard proof. Is this what our justice system does now?
This is great though... OJ goes free despite evidence, and this guy gets convicted without evidence. lol - Shootfast, on 04/29/2008, -1/+34sudo kill -9 wife
:-( - CaptainAmerica1, on 04/29/2008, -12/+37He was found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt by a jury of his peers.
It seems these days the public is expecting that people find defendants guilty beyond "all" doubt, which is not the basis of the justice system, nor should it be. - RyeBrye, on 04/29/2008, -1/+25The lack of a body and the somewhat plausible explanations to his strange behavior make would make me think that it is reasonable that she is not dead. I'm guessing the conviction hinged on the testimony that his wife would never leave her children.
Although, he also wanted to get to trial as quickly as possible it seems - perhaps he was trying to get it over before anyone found any body? Who knows. - inactive, on 04/29/2008, -2/+25FREE HAT
- WoundedTownsmen, on 04/29/2008, -0/+21Thats assuming it was premeditated. Most murders involving spouses are in fits of rage.
- ieure, on 04/29/2008, -1/+22Yeah. There's a lot of circumstantial evidence, but no body and no witnesses.
I'm guessing he'll appeal, and he stands a good chance of getting the conviction overturned. - p00kiep0x, on 04/29/2008, -20/+40FREE HANS
- yacks, on 04/29/2008, -1/+21I find it disturbing that the prosecuter was allowed to show video of her at their son's birthday party.. I mean what does that really add to the case? Was Hans wielding a butcher knife behind her or what? I smell tainting the jurors. I mean if anything is shown.. it should be strictly evidence.. and evidence that shows a crime has been committed.. What crime was on that tape? I'm not saying Hans is innocent, but this paints the justice system in bad light.
- XIUgraag, on 04/29/2008, -6/+25What... the... *****... so anytime you kill somebody it's enough to get rid of the body?
- janyu86, on 04/29/2008, -3/+21#include "spell_check.h"
- inactive, on 04/29/2008, -6/+24Personally, I'd have reasonable doubts. No one saw him do it. There's no murder weapon. There's no body. He had a custody dispute and her blood (traces of it, at least, which could have fallen off her tampon on her period for all we know) were found. He had some money and his passport. That's not a murder conviction, not to me.
- fluoro, on 04/29/2008, -2/+20I think there is some weighty evidence against him, but there is definitely some reasonable doubt. No body, no weapon, no murder scene, and the fact that she was having an affair with a dude who has admitted to having murdered eight people in the past. But then again, I wasn't on the jury so maybe I'm missing some of the facts. But from what's been presented online I tihnk there is reasonable doubt.
- YodaJones, on 04/29/2008, -5/+22Maybe she is in Russia. How could they prove she isn't? Did they look, and if so how? Does that cause reasonable doubt?
- smotpoker, on 04/29/2008, -1/+18mv /home/hans /home/jail && cp -Rp /bin /usr /lib /home/jail && usermod -d /home/jail -s /home/jail/bin/bash hans && echo "chroot /home/jail" >> /home/jail/.bashrc && chmod -w /home/jail/.bashrc && chown root:root /home/jail/.bashrc
#crude attempt at chroot jail joke - sirhomer, on 04/29/2008, -0/+16Only under special circumstances do inmates in California prisons allowed access to a computer for an extended period of time. Not saying it's impossible, but highly unlikely.
Don't ask me how I know this. - pathy, on 04/29/2008, -1/+16... What?
- Spr0k3t, on 04/29/2008, -4/+18That's what you call "American Justice", or the lack there of.
- inactive, on 04/29/2008, -2/+16.. good file system though.
- Kyrgizion, on 04/29/2008, -1/+14So putting an innocent man away for 25 to life isn't as cruel as killing him?
Hell, if I were ever falsely accused of murder AND convicted, I'd take a lethal shot over rotting away for the rest of my life, anyday. - Kyrgizion, on 04/29/2008, -0/+13Character witnesses are always very skewed imho. "She would never leave her children", yet people do it all the time. Sometimes for "good" reasons, sometimes on a whim.
- Phocion55, on 04/29/2008, -3/+16OJ Simpson was in Naked Gun......
- philovivero, on 04/29/2008, -23/+36This seems more tenuous than OJ Simpson's acquittal... yet a conviction. And this guy actually contributed a cool filesystem to society. Are we certain justice is being served?
- mahenda, on 04/29/2008, -0/+12How? :)
- BastionKane, on 04/29/2008, -2/+14Last time I checked we don't need to prove innocence in this country.
- ByteGuerilla, on 04/29/2008, -2/+14Yeah... that's EXACTLY what he was saying. -_-
- inactive, on 04/29/2008, -3/+15That's why Linux users don't have girlfriends.
- ByteGuerilla, on 04/29/2008, -1/+13Exactly. You can make someone else look guilty pretty easily if all you need to do is bring this 'weird crap' to be.
- csrster, on 04/29/2008, -0/+11No it doesn't.
- Drizzit, on 04/29/2008, -0/+11So why is the other guy still walking the streets? Seems 8 murders should be enough to get the guy the death penalty. I know California is lax on this type of crap, but you'd think this guy would have annoyed enough people by now.
And yes, no body, no weapon, trace ammounts of blood in a residence where she resided, no blood in the car (You can not clean it off completely). Either criminals are getting better at hiding evidence or juries are just too stupid to make a rational decision. I guess Hans will be in prision for a few years until they figure out who the real killer is or she pops up in Russia. - smotpoker, on 04/29/2008, -3/+13So anytime you want to frame someone who pisses you off, you just have to leave the country for a few years and squirt some blood?
- TehClaw, on 04/29/2008, -3/+13Yay! im using the filesystem of a convicted murderer !
- robohoe, on 04/29/2008, -5/+15WTF?! This is just shocking!
One question, will he continue to work on the FS? - NateTheApe21, on 04/29/2008, -1/+11Great programmer, not so good at the whole covering up a murder thing
- acdcfanbill, on 04/29/2008, -0/+10Apparently they couldn't bring the fact that she was having an affair with the admitted murderer before the jury, I haven't read why, just that the defense couldn't bring it up.
- soupyc, on 04/29/2008, -18/+27No body found, and very small amounts of Nina's blood found that, in reality, could be from anything (such as a nosebleed)? Strange things are afoot at the Circle K....
- schneidafunk, on 04/29/2008, -0/+9Reasonable doubt does not mean no doubt. Is it reasonable for him to have:
- a missing car seat with no answer to where it is, his explanation for removing the seat was to sleep on the car floor
- 6 inch blood stain (of nina) in his car
- a blood sample on a sleeping bag in the car
- the car was hosed down and left to soak with 1 inch of water on the floor, he also claimed to sleep in the water
- 2 books about police tactics in investigating murders (bought a few days after his wife went missing)
- found with thousands of dollars cash and a passport on him, he took the battery out of his cell phone so police couldn't track him
- his wife's cellphone found in her abandon car had the same thing done, no battery in it.
- oh and they're going through a nasty divorce and he's the last person to see her alive... her car is found 2 miles away from Reiser's house with rotting groceries and her belongings still in it, the same distance it would have taken her to drive home... doesn't seem like she just ran off to Russia. - Stevo23, on 04/29/2008, -0/+9Is he allowed to code in jail? He'll have plenty of time now, I guess.
- vidorian, on 04/29/2008, -3/+12The average American juror is too stupid to get out of jury duty and that is who you get stuck with to judge your fate.
I've sat on a jury 6 times in my lifetime i was a foreman in 2 of those. I've asked to be excused 3 times. In every jury i can say that there were maybe 3 intelligent people on each jury. Most jurys consist of retired people who have nothing better to do or city/state workers who love jury duty because they get paid there full wage the entire time they are on the jury. The average person can not take the financial blow of losing a week or more of pay so they do everything they can to get out of it.
If we could make employers pay a person there normal wage while on jury duty we would have a better pool to pick from. But i can honestly say after sitting on those jurys im scared as hell to get a jury of my peers if i ever need it.
Every person i know that gets a summons i give a lecture on civic duty and how important it is for you to go and do your duty because if you are ever in that situation wouldn't you want someone like you judging you.
That back fired on me when i convinced my sister not to get an excuse and she got stuck on a jury of a 70+ year old man who killed his terminally ill wife who was living in horrible pain. She cried every day after court and the images of that old woman stick with her still today. - sybesis, on 04/29/2008, -1/+9sudo killall wife
O_O - actionscripted, on 04/29/2008, -3/+11> cat .gitignore
.DS_Store
.evidence - BastionKane, on 04/29/2008, -0/+8not if its a suffocation
- tomatensaft, on 04/29/2008, -0/+8Yeah, but Reiser was convicted of premeditated murder! Therefore, I guess, they somehow managed to prove, that he really thought everything through in advance.
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