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- Sammi84, on 06/04/2008, -2/+63Historically we've never seen MS make a new OS that was lighter than the one before. But now they need to do this, or else low cost PCs with Linux will turn out to be their Achilles heel.
Open source gets the work done on the lower end; Microsoft does not. Competition is good.
I am so excited about this new trend. This will be delicious on one of the many new cheap ultra portable laptops. - pierrelourens, on 06/04/2008, -1/+27Every year for the last 5 years have been the year of the Linux Desktop.
Gah. Nevertheless, I run Ubuntu :P - mcmlxxii, on 06/04/2008, -1/+21why use the word "fecal"? Looks more like chocolate brown to me, but then I don't scrape around in the pan with a colour chart.
- MeatyMcBeef, on 06/04/2008, -3/+22I've been saying for a couple years now that 2010 is the year Linux catches up to Microsoft and Apple in usability, compatibility, man-hours on design and overall awareness. Ubuntu might actually make that a reality.
Looks incredible... - ptFoe, on 06/04/2008, -0/+17Nice they got the creator of AWN into it.
- PFS1, on 06/04/2008, -6/+20Looks solid...but any plans for a KDE version? There is much of KDE I can't live without and my Eee's 4 gig drive doesn't allow much room for having the GTK and QT libraries to be installed simultaenously...
- Tippx, on 06/04/2008, -0/+14XP Embedded? Windows CE? THAT ***** THING SUCKS!
- mrsteveman1, on 06/04/2008, -0/+11Both of those suck, and Microsoft hasn't been seriously pushing either one in a competent fashion.
MS could crush this interest in Linux if they wanted to, but if they do it will only be because they are afraid of Linux gaining this market and keeping it, prior to the Linux based embedded device craze, Microsoft barely cared about these sorts of devices, there have been a few "microsoft business partners" making CE or XP-E based devices, but they all sucked, and they either fall off the market or get replaced by the next round of failures.
CE started life over 10 years ago with those palmtop things, with monochrome displays etc. They continually updated it each time, switching its name to handheld or palm-size pc or pocket pc, each time barely giving any effort to its usability or utility.
XP Embedded has been used in certain situations, HP uses it for their instant on QuickPlay system on the dv1000 laptops, and certain point of sale systems use it as well, but it has never been pushed as an end user OS for this sort of market.
Basically this situation is an example why Microsoft needs competition, when they don't have any they MAKE CRAP. - deltron, on 06/04/2008, -2/+12DAMN Sexy!
- gradivus, on 06/05/2008, -1/+10Ubuntu is the electric car of software.
- Woknblues, on 06/05/2008, -0/+8I can never understand the hate for the color scheme in ubuntu themes. I have no problem with the color brown, and don't usually equate brown with *****, but rather with "nature". Though I changed my theme recently, the process takes all of 5 seconds. the default color theme is the single worst reason not to embrace ubuntu.
I love the remix idea. I see ubuntu taking linux to the next level, regardless of ubuntu's position in whatever hard core linux users rate it at. - ZaZ2137, on 06/04/2008, -1/+9You know i found your problem when you said ATI.
- HonoredMule, on 06/05/2008, -1/+8If we picked just one toolkit, we'd be stuck with whatever is ***** about that particular one. We can standardize when one of them all-around doesn't suck.
- cave, on 06/04/2008, -4/+11Dugg for fecal brown. How hard is it to make a dark gray theme with orange accents? Something more along the lines of Ubuntu Studio (replacing blue for orange) would be great.
- Dylson, on 06/04/2008, -0/+6Go away.
- FaberfoX, on 06/05/2008, -0/+6I just did. It's quite easy, add this repository to synaptic (single line, digg may add breaks):
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/netbook-remix-team/ubuntu hardy main
and then (again single line):
sudo apt-get install window-picker-applet
this was taken from https://launchpad.net/netbook-remix
I installed all of it but couldn't get go-home-applet running, and the launcher is too slow on my onboard video, so away it went.
Looks really promising, pretty similar to maemo on the N800, can't wait for ubuntu running on it. - geoken, on 06/04/2008, -0/+6Is there any way to install the window switcher panel applet on regular gnome?
- alexforcefive, on 06/04/2008, -2/+8You mean apart from asus and dell?
- monkeeofevil, on 06/05/2008, -0/+6Unity is good, but so is competition. KDE and GNOME are both teh w00t in their own ways. I personally use gnome, but am also a big fan of xfce.. KDE feels weird to me, but i still give props.
- cleaton, on 06/04/2008, -1/+7did you read the article, or just look at the pictures?
- cgeier, on 06/05/2008, -0/+5UBUNTU ROCKS!
- MeatyMcBeef, on 06/04/2008, -0/+5Haha yes, hence my date of 2010 said back in 06. I've been periodically trying various versions and as a techie who lives with cavepeople I recognized it was far from ready for the average user.
I've yet to try the latest release of Ubuntu. Maybe when my replacement power cable arrives(flushed one end of it...please don't ask) I'll give it a spin. - freehunter, on 06/04/2008, -1/+6You mean shops like Wal Mart? Not that long ago, you could find a Ubuntu based machine in Wal Mart. Besides, how many people (apart from grandmas and the like, they don't make up a huge percentage of buyers) buy from Wal Mart or Best Buy or the like? Most people I know buy from Dell.com, and I'm talking a wide variety of end users.
- armo, on 06/05/2008, -0/+5It is dark grey, but its opacity makes the default brown background show through. Set the background to something different and...
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/armo_2007/ ... - mrsteveman1, on 06/04/2008, -3/+7The real answer is to pick a toolkit and stick with it, if that means letting one of them drop off the face of the earth so be it.
It would be one thing if GTK and QT served different purposes, but they are used for the same things, its duplication for no reason at this point, especially if you know the history of the 2 toolkits and why each exists. It would also be different if these were just APIs for the same basic desktop, they aren't, we have complete, separate but partially compatible desktops built around each one, fragmenting things and causing problems such as PFS1's situation. - moocow1452, on 06/04/2008, -1/+5I think it's GNOME Specific.
- thetacticus, on 06/04/2008, -0/+4Sweet interface...Would look sweet on my eeepc too...PFS1, did u install eeexubuntu? I think u have 1.3gigs left after install.
- inactive, on 06/04/2008, -1/+5Gradivus "Wost.Operating. System. EVAR!! Seriously,it crashes every program about 3 times day,updates literally every 12 hours. "
maybe you had it configured incorrectly i have installed ubuntu on about 200 different machine with very minor issues which where eventually fixed. - daftman, on 06/05/2008, -1/+5Your average Joe seems like an Average Dedicated Windows User.
Let's just say there's a larger market than the Joe you're describing. Alot of users don't even know what OS they are using.
> Joe will think something like this: "Good TV's aren't free. Good car's aren't free. Why would a free OS be better than Windows? It must be an inferior product."
Is good sex free? - alexforcefive, on 06/04/2008, -1/+5To be fair, it's not like there's a new suite of notebook-friendly apps in the remix. It's more than just rearranged icons though :p
That tabbed application thing is SO SEXY - cactus476, on 06/05/2008, -0/+4Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs?
- arcticblue, on 06/04/2008, -1/+5You might want to hold off on the latest Ubuntu for a while (they're releasing 8.04.1 in July). It's got a few problems. For example, Evolution is constantly corrupting my local mailboxes and I have to go in and delete some files to force it to rebuild the index and metadata for that mailbox. Also, if you try to add an LDAP address book and you don't have the settings perfect, it has a nasty memory leak and won't stop eating your RAM until you kill evolution-data-server or your computer grinds to a halt and you have to reboot.
Another thing is that if you specify a domain name during installation, your network doesn't work because it screws up the host file a little bit. It's done that to me on every machine I've installed it on here at work. Once you do get your network working, you'll find that their implementation of NetworkManager kind of sucks. If you need to set a static IP address, NetworkManager no longer does anything for your interface which makes it a little difficult to set up VPN connections. The only way for NetworkManager to handle VPN connections is if you use DHCP. I've submitted bug reports concerning both this and the Evolution issues, but nothing has been done to fix them (they show an initial interest and then they vanish).
Also, there's STILL no snes9x-opengl support! I've had a bug open on that forever and no one has looked at that.
And the last thing (and this may be only on my computer), Hardy seems to eat RAM on my computer. I'm using near 375MB of RAM right after booting and after a couple hours, My RAM usage doesn't drop below 700MB. It starts to really crawl when I load up my XP VM in VirtualBox.
As much as I love Ubuntu, I'd have to suggest avoiding it for now especially if you're looking at using it in an office environment. I'm using Fedora 9 at work and it seems to be much more solid than Hardy for the time being although it's a pain to install non-opensource stuff (like Flash on 64-bit). At least I can have a VPN connection on a static IP address though. - monkeeofevil, on 06/05/2008, -0/+3indeed.
- Appleboi4evr, on 06/05/2008, -0/+3Dell mini-inspiron anyone?
considering right now that dell is the only major pc manufacture offering ubuntu (specifically) and its soon to be released mini-inspiron it makes sense, hopefully timing is right. where Asus eee pc has Xandros, HP's 2133 Mini-Note PC offers opensuse, and dell has its Dell-ubuntu initiative it makes sense to offer ubuntu netbook remix. all the manufactures want a unique derivative to offer, dell got ubuntu (although not exclusively). - ooblez, on 06/04/2008, -4/+7still ugly as sin, but as has been said a thousand times, most people change the theme.
problem is here that to be widely expectable the default theme needs to be better.
glad to hear about the improvements on the technical side of things though, they should give ubuntu a edge over xp! - jay019, on 06/06/2008, -0/+3Buried for Trollism.
- neko, on 06/05/2008, -0/+3Sure, and everyone should just pick the same tinfoil jumpsuit design from 80s futuristic TV shows and then we can all wear the same clothes.
But it's not going to happen. - sapient2003, on 06/05/2008, -0/+3Auto-install? Ubuntu has Add/Remove under Applications and the Synaptic Package Manager under System-->Administration. As jcastellanos713 said, you more than likely misconfigured something. I am surprised you have any problems at all with Ubuntu in all honesty. It is so easy to use a blind monkey with no fingers could use it without a single problem.
- CarzorStelatis, on 06/05/2008, -0/+2You realise that the Eee's processor is actually underclocked to 600Mhz?
- PFS1, on 06/04/2008, -0/+2Nope, I use regular kubuntu. xfce is far too light for me. I use the eee as a satellite of my home server and I work a lot on my website over ftp, so the functionality allowed by dolphin/konquror + the KIO slaves is hard to give up.
- pHr34kY, on 06/05/2008, -2/+4This further outlines why the multi-window interface that the GIMP implements needs to change. Seriously, how hard is it to dock toolbars to a workspace?
Aside from that, it looks like it would work well on a small screen. - alterImperson, on 06/06/2008, -0/+2Ugly as sin? Compared to Vista, Ubuntu's default theme is elegant and simple. I find the brown and orange refreshing, but maybe that's just because I am forced to stare at Vista machines all day.
- BlockedUser, on 06/04/2008, -0/+2WTF is your problem you douche!?
- cave, on 06/05/2008, -0/+2Heeey now we're talking!
- roguent, on 06/04/2008, -0/+2I can't wait for this to be the only OS I have to deal with. That day will come if MS keeps pushing Vista down business's throats. Get Vista to run on an Atom processor...HAHA
- bj1989, on 06/05/2008, -0/+1I saw this exact comment a at least once before. Nonetheless it's still relevant and true.
- dualboy24, on 06/05/2008, -0/+1Well I would love to see Dell and HP and Asus keep on pushing these sub notebooks. I was so wanting to get the HP Mini note but the via chip is just not enough power, but I think that Dell and HP both have a sexy design that puts the EEE to shame. Asus started the hype, but if they don't take a class on design they might find themselves behind the competition.
I love how they are focusing on power savings with the Intel Atom, and I hope that by next year we will be seeing a subnotebook with the HP Mini note design, but running one of Intels new Dual Core Atoms at 1.86Ghz. This would offer great performance, a great screen resolution, and a good sized keyboard along with the benifits of good battery life. I would be willing to pay the ~$499-$699 to get this type of hardware. - geoken, on 06/07/2008, -0/+1Works great, thanks FaberfoX.
- davidlt, on 01/06/2009, -0/+1Ubuntu is sooo awesome, it completely blows windows right out the door. Easy to use, fast and dependable. Ubuntu is a great Linux distro! No other operating system comes close.....are you listening MS Windows?
replacement windows http://homereplacementwindows.net
installing replacement windows http://homereplacementwindows.net/information/3/in ...
replacement window systems http://homereplacementwindows.net/information/8/re ... - crgnetworks, on 01/24/2009, -0/+1If you want to change the opacity of the netbook launcher window, I wrote a guide here:
http://www.raydetwiler.net/post/How-to-Change-netb ... -
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