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HOORAY! New opensource already beating official driver: Avivo vs. Fglrx

phoronix.com — As you can see from the timed results, the Avivo driver with ShadowFB enabled had sharply outperformed the 8.39 fglrx driver. It is important to keep in mind that the Avivo driver is still deemed experimental and lacks a number of critical elements; however, the Avivo driver is now fast enough for using basic desktop applications.

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  • jasmin888, on 10/11/2007, -0/+58This new driver is showing tremendous progress.
    Shame on you ati/amd - this should have been coming out of your labs!
  • ArthurSucks, on 10/11/2007, -0/+23If Ati was smart they dump a lot of money of this open driver and get that thing stable! They need to package it with their hardware.
  • geoken, on 10/11/2007, -3/+22Another way to not have to rely on AMD is to simply stop using their products. Personally, spending hours upon hours getting these cards to play nice with Linux sends a much worse message than simply diching ATI and picking up an nVidia card.
  • Scyth3, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17I refuse to buy an ATI card until there's linux support for it (other than community created drivers). nVidia has a dominant marketshare for linux at the moment until ATI puts out decent drivers.
  • Sortaburnt, on 10/11/2007, -0/+15This gets truncated in my Firefox Bookmarks Toolbar feed reader to read:

    "HOORAY! New opensource already beating off..."
  • schestowitz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+15The same goes for the NVIDIA open source driver project, based on a quick-and-dirty benchmark published last week. Bear in mind, however, that the OS drivers are more rudimentary, so the comparison is not necessarily fair.
  • init100, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11I also heard their drivers suck in Windows too, not just in Linux. That could be part of the explanation (if true).
  • inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+14I think it's safe to say at this stage that ATI has lost the fight to NVIDIA, latest steam hardware survey shows nvidia 60%, ATI 40%.. Who is to blame? ATI for not supporting linux and linux community.
  • ZennZero, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10I agree with you on who is to blame, but not the reason why. Do you really think that all those Steam gamers care about Linux support? They are Windows gamers - most of them have probably never touched Linux in their life.

    The reason ATI is trailing is because Nvidia has been a step ahead of them for over a year. ATI's loooooooong delayed DX10 kit really can't compete on price/performance basis. The only thing they are really doing well is their HD-decoding hardware, which seems to be marginally better than Nvidia's implementation.
  • selrahc, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10I really wish I had known I was going to be interested in Linux when I bought my laptop. I would have made a better choice. Broadcom and ATI, bleh.
  • Disease, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10Worst combo ever
  • allywilson, on 10/11/2007, -5/+13Nah, if the community can make a better driver - then we no longer have to rely upon AMD for them!
  • thepxc, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8This is pretty incredible for the Avivo devs and extremely pathetic on the part of ATI. Thanks for (not) trying, AMD/ATI!
  • Bizmac, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Is it news? Most of the open source projects are already better than the commercial ones. And the best: it is open source...Thanks to the open source community! Hooray GPLv3, creative commons...***** MS, copyrights, patents and the RIAA...
  • jcaino, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7its hard to do that since so many pre-built systems use ati still - end users sales aren't really that huge.
  • Urusai, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8It's currently 2D only...by far the easiest thing to get working. And one of the bigger obstacles to packaging Linux drivers is the multiplicity of distributions and kernel versions; it's best to supply a reference code tree and let the packaging monkeys for each distro sort it out. Don't forget the BSD...
  • prammy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Agreed. Working with nvidia cards in Linux have been so painless that its hard to consider ATI for anything.
  • jcheng, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Is anyone even interested in 2D performance anymore? Is the fglrx driver noticeably slow in 2D drawing operations?
  • Scyth3, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4DIfferent sections have different release characteristics. Since politics is now more popular than technology (based on the krose interview), I'm sure the frontpage stories take more digg's to make it from the politics section. That and the political spam is a bit much.
  • ahvi, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I can't wait to get rid of XGL :)
  • richardiscool, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Context next time please.
  • benanzo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2It's not copyright infringement..it's Trademark. Copyright infringement would be if the Avivo devs copied ATI's code.
  • TechCF, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Totally agree. The Linux nvidia driver and configuration utilities is great and fast. Would like to see and open driver though, but as long as distributions are allowed to distribute and integrate (like ubuntu) I do atleast have fast 3D hardware working for the new compositing world
  • bigtomrodney, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Wouldn't that be Intel that has the dominant share? I mean sure I have an nVidia card in one of my Linux boxes but let's not forget that more midrange PCs ship with onboard graphics from Intel than nVidia or ATI. Hell when I recently bought a notebook I chose Intel GMA because I knew the opensource drivers would be a better option for suspend and hibernate.
  • Stemp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2driver for the Radeon R500 and R600
  • nzhamstar, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I would buy ATI if they have good drivers because nvidia remings me of intel, and ATI reminded me of AMD before they bought ATI. So I would much rather buy ATI if they supported my linux. :)
  • rewquio, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2The story has already made the front page, but it was buried. They don't show you how many buries a story gets, only how many diggs. The way you can tell is subscribe to an RSS feed. It usually still includes buried stories. At least it used to.
  • djGentoo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1The what?
  • djGentoo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1This is why Noveau isn't packaged with any distros other than Fedora; it doesn't have 3D acceleration either. Yet.
  • generalloy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1You can have the same name in a different field.

    Eg., (a few years ago), it was Apple Computers, Apple Records.
  • mbelly, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4"It is important to keep in mind that the Avivo driver is still deemed experimental and lacks a number of critical elements"..

    And I stopped reading...re-post when it has the same functionality as the ATI stuff and still beats it. Not that I am knocking OSS, but you can't base a test on incomplete product.
  • BattleStar47, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Wait, is this just a new feature of the r300 drivers, or a totally different driver all together?

    I had thought about maybe hacking the r300 some, but for some reason gdb won't take me into the OpenGL calls (even with -g in the compile).
  • inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1thats why anyone who has half a brain uses the omega 3rd party driver rather then the ATI ***** drivers.
  • amfantasy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1When I go into my bios and I turn the cache up on my video card, the black window bug goes away. If you have a onboard Nvidia card try that.
  • Fartag, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1... and the MPAA, closed source software (especially fundamental OS / driver software), DRM, EULAs, WGA, Sony, misinformation, and FUD...
  • msgyrd, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1ATI's drivers do suck on Windows, and Omega's 3rd party driver's aren't really 3rd party. They're just additional tweaks and tuning available for the card that ATI doesn't "officially" support. Using them doesn't make the driver itself any better. Omega doesn't actually write the hardware drivers because they would be at about the same stage the Linux community is at...reverse engineering ***** because graphics card companies won't release any info. Read Omega's "about" page...it's his hobby in his spare time, and his intro page says he raids in WoW 6 hours a day all week long. No chance in hell that guy writes hardware drivers from the ground up in what's left of his spare time.
  • djGentoo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1It's spelled A-I-G-L-X.
  • anachronox, on 10/11/2007, -5/+35% of desktop users use linux... 35% unaccounted ...
  • Meep3D, on 10/11/2007, -4/+25%?!?

    I have no idea where your getting that number (slashdot server logs probably) but according to all the numbers I have seen, and backed up by the majority of my web server stats (for normal websites) Linux accounts for ~0.3% of desktops.

    Companies ignore Linux because it's market penetration is negligible.
  • iofthestorm, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Umm, but isn't Avivo the name of ATI's video quality improving software? How have they not gotten sued for copyright infringement yet? Perhaps they should have chosen a better name.
  • tropicflite, on 10/11/2007, -6/+0nvidia still has the horrible black windows bug under compiz-fusion.
  • UnFriendlyFire, on 10/11/2007, -11/+2I think digg needs a new driver. This story was made popular after 8 hours with just 37 diggs. While this storyhttp://www.digg.com/political_opinion/Former_Reagan_Official_Bush_May_Stage_False_Flag_Events_To_Reinstate_Draft is still on the upcoming page with over 375 diggs in just 6.5 hours.

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