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- Valkarie70, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Nothing against DD-WRT, I use it at my parent's home and my old high school and it works great, but we are using full PC's here. Just wondering why the average digg user wouldn't use something a bit more powerful such as IPCop, Smoothwall, Endian, m0n0wall, pfsense, etc.. I personally always likened DD-WRT to small appliance hardware, when you can run something more "powerful" on full blown computers instead...
- schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Legacy hardware never ceases to serve.
- roeboedog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I am using DD-WRT on my one of my routers (wrt54gV5) to bridge part of a wired network to another wired network - (the bridge is wireless) and it works perfect.
(um - and it works as far as a city block - not that I would, um, be doing that - um) - grayfox, on 10/12/2007, -10/+19Sorry the site went down for about 2 minuets its back up now. (I triped over the power cable)
- heavensblade23, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Or you could buy a $50 WRT54G and run DD-WRT on that, which would probably save electricity and effort.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7From the DESCRIPTION:
"This is really useful if you are frustrated by the lack of ram and/or performance the wrt54g offers but still want the power and flexibility of dd-wrt's firmware."
dd-wrt can be a bittorrent client, Asterisk box, etc etc. The extra hard drive space alone makes it worthwhile. - nnonix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Cuz you've always wanted a 200lb boat-anchor for a wireless router!
- mkearl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Call me an idiot, but I run a small wi-fi business off of it. Works great and I couldn't be happier for the price/functionality. I do plan on upgrading once I get more people on. But for now, it's runs awesome!
- DarkMeld, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8u stick one connection to a switch
- kremvax, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I'm not sure everyone needs a router that continuous draws 300 watts, has fans, is 2 cu ft, etc..
DD-wrt on a $50 linksys or buffalo airstation is a lot easier on the pocketbook and only draws current in milliamps.
(and works like a champ.)
(( and has a great "linux runs everywhere" vibe )) - Valkarie70, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I wouldn't say it's "not that great", it's just like most other things in the world, right tool for the right job, and it always seemed to me that DD-WRT was targeted more for appliance hardware (like the WRT54G series)
- Sage-Tech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Thanks for the mirror. The original URL only brought up the logo for me.
- dirtyhand, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The only reason I would use a spare pc as a router is because dd-wrt on my wrt54g v5 craps out when I run bittorrent
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I hear that alot about DD-WRT. And you can read how many bricking incidents there are on the forum. But you can't brick a PC with it at least.
- Netmindstorm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4dd-wrt is great. Anybody still using/supporting Sveasoft is a fool
http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=187159&cid=15444725 - giid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Any WRT54G beyond v4 is kinda worthless for linux, since with the v5 it has half the ram and half the flash, I recently bought a WRT54GL and so far torrents work great. They're a little bit more, but they come with a full 16 meg of ram and 4 meg flash. The WRT54GL is basically a WRT54G v4.
More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRT54G
Looking back on it, I wish I would have bought something with at least 32M ram and maybe some more flash for some extra breathing room with torrents. - Brennan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Why not use m0n0wall or something else, dd-wrt isn't that great.
- grayfox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Just plug eth1 into a switch or hub. (I strongly recommend using a switch.)
- kremvax, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3DD-wrt has a lot more functions and features than a consumer/home price range router.
It can be turned into a wifi repeater, can be used as a pay-for access point, has some fairly sophisticated security functions, a smart firewall, etc.
Generally, you'd need about $500 worth of commercial router to match the features you get with running dd-wrt on a $50 piece of hardware. - grayfox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Another mirror
http://www.jonathankirkey.com/grayfox/ - valkyries, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4call me a complete linux noob, setting up my first "linux box/firewall" i used Smoothwall. It was really easy for me to setup, get it up and running. once you do get it setup u really dont have to touch a lick of linux code, u can control the box thru any browser on any machine inside the network.
- cawpin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Unless you pumped up the antenna output to ridiculous levels, DD-WRT doesn't brick anything. I've been using it for well over 2 years without any trouble whatsoever.
- AssProphet, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7You must not be paying the electric bill...
- grayfox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Not everyone has the older WRT54GS where it had 32MB of ram. Typically users with a wrt54g have 16MB of ram. (8 mb in the newer revisions)
And the pc version doesn't take full advantage of the hardware yet but the community will and eventually dd-wrt will. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2There's only one command to type...
- TiMMY8765, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2the newest firmware should fix that (did on my v6)
- dirtyhand, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2hmm what if you want more than one output port... more ethernet cards?
- deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2dirtyhand is right. Just use a switch. You're only going to have your WAN traffic passing over that link. All the LAN traffic will be forwarded by the switch itself unless you plan to do some weird sub-netting that requires the dd-wrt router to route your internal LAN traffic.
- foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Could someone please explain to me the benefits of using this rather than a router from a store?
Or are they different kinds of routers? - elitexero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2DD-WRT worked great until out of nowhere it bricked my router.
- Trevor2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What I want is something that lets you use multiple wireless cards at once each connected to a different wlan and load balance it for the ultimate bittorrent upload :D!
- DarkMeld, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1well it functions the same way as the standard wrt54g.
But i am also wondering what are the true advantages over using the store bought router other than a rather limitless routing table
what uses does it allow that the wrt54g cant - BigBadHoss, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1theres lots you can do, just depends on what you want!
- lobsang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm a bit confused...
DD-WRT is great (I use OpenWRT, but that's another discussion), but what's the point of using it on your PC if it does not (yet) support wireless cards? Did I understand it right? Furthermore, the instructions do not put enough warning that using dd over /dev/hdX will wipe-out everything you have there... - ghrayfahx, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6Love the name. Heh. Been using this one since 2000. Sorry for the useless post, just had to say it.
Now, proceed with my Digg-Down. - grayfox, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Heres a mirror
http://flib.homelinux.com:8080/grayfox/ - Valkarie70, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Mt first as well, and that's the idea of those distributions in some sense, make it as easy and headache free as possible. Our biggest issues was trying to get an IP from Verizon without first releasing it from a different MAC address... Currently running IPCop because it can do DHCP reservations in a way that two mac addresses can be assigned the same IP (handy when you have a laptop on a dock and want to forward stuff to it)
- Darainbowfr0g, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2looks good, I think I need to make a router.
- grayfox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The only page people should have trouble visiting is /index.html and only ie users (I have explorer destroyer on there).
- cejones, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3"Currently wireless doesn't work. Support for this will likely be added in future versions."
Um, doesn't this make it useless for anyone who wants to replace their wrt54g? - usentr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I dont use explorer either. I use Opera, still couldnt see the page. Please Dont destroy Opera.
- sandersons, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That's a great info GrayFox, this way you can make use of your old pc in a better way. Thanks.
- cantormath, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1an awesome product if you have the right router
- Olivaw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Seems like if you were going to all the trouble to build a router out of an old computer, you'd want to make it a file server as well. Something like Knoppix (the Live CD!) and a couple of cheap 300gig hard drives with Samba and you got an expandable network file system that will run on under 64meg of memory....
One of the great (if not confusing) things about Linux is that there are so many ways to get the same thing accomplished... - neopath, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2/lurking mode OFF
I've been using clarkconnect community edition for a couple of years and it's great... router,gateway,web server,ftp,intrusion detection.. you name it.
For people who wants something that "just works" I guess this dd-wrt thing is great (although clarkconnect "just works" too indeed) but if you like to play around and learn you could do a lot worse than try it out.
Bonus: install torrentflux on the box and you get yourself a nice torrent client that can be controlled by a web interface.. love it...
http://www.clarkconnect.com/
http://www.torrentflux.com/
oh,and the CC community edition is free and is based on the Centos distro.
/lurking mode ON - grayfox, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yes EBOX
- mikeroySoft, on 10/19/2009, -1/+2As cool as DD-WRT is, it's somewhat overkill to have a pc running the router software.
I would, considering i have the spare hardware, but then I also pay for electricity! - grayfox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Fixed it for users on all browsers I forgot to upload the css file.
- grayfox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It will obviously wipe there target drive its putting a hard-drive image overtop of the existing data. And physwritedisk gives the windows users a warning. If there using linux they should already know that.
- usentr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Many users seem to get a blank page when they access this site. It's as if somebody does not want you to see the site,
For those who cant access the site, Here's the contents:
DD-WRT on a standard X86 pc
What is dd-wrt
DD-WRT is free firmware that orignal ran on Linksys's popular WRT54G router. It is based on OpenWRT and maintained by BrainSlayer at dd-wrt.com. Now with it able to run on standard X86 hardware it is no longer limited by the lack of ram and slow cpu in Linksys's WRT54G .
Files needed
physdiskwrite (needed for Windows)
dd-wrt_public_vga
Requirements:
An X86 compatible pc (i386) or greater with at least 16MB of RAM, 2 network cards, and a hard drive.
The files listed above.
Test platform
For my test platform I used a Pentium 3 450 with 384MB of ram and a 10.4GB hard drive.
The network cards were the following:
Intel Pro/1000MT Desktop Adaptor
Integrated 3COM nic.
Linux/OSX Instructions
Step 1- Open your computers case and plug in the hard-drive that you wish to install dd-wrt onto.
Step 2 - Open up your console/terminal program.
Step 3 - Become a super user and enter in your super user password (Or if your on Ubuntu or OSX just type sudo before the dd command.)
Example: su
Step 4 - Navigate to where the image file is located.
Step 5 - Use the command dd to write the image to the desired hard drive
/dev/hda =Primary Master
/dev/hdb =Primary Slave
/dev/hdc =Secondary Master
/dev/hdd =Secondary Slave
Example: If you wanted to write the dd-wrt image to your primary master drive, you would using the following command.
dd if=dd-wrt_public_vga.image of=/dev/hda
Example picture below
dd-wrt-linux
Live CD
The instructions are exactly the same as for Linux but you don't have to put the hard-drive into another machine. I suggest using KNOPPIX or DSL Linux if you want to do a live CD install.
Windows Installation
To install this on Windows, it's just as easy as with Linux.
Step 1 - Open your computers case and plug in the hard-drive that you wish to install dd-wrt onto.
Step 2 - Open the command prompt. (Windows XP, 2000, 2003= Start>Run>cmd)
Step 3 - Navigate to the directory where physdiskwrite.exe is and where your image is.
Step 4 - Enter the following command :
physdiskwrite -u dd-wrt_public_vga.image
Step 5 - Select the disk you want to install dd-wrt to from the list.
dd-wrt-windows
DD-WRT
After you have imaged the hard-drive boot the machine.
You should see a login prompt after everything has loaded and booted.
Now plug your switch into your eth1 interface (the second network card in your machine, If you have onboard the onboard will be eth0 and your pci card will be eth1.) The web administration interface can be accessed at 192.168.1.1 and the default username is root default password is admin.
dd-wrt-info
DD-WRT Wireless Lan
Currently wireless doesn't work. Support for this will likely be added in future versions.
Return to GrayNetwork.org
This can be discussed in the forum here.
Updated: 2006/12/28 23:42 Author: GrayFox -
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