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- sooperdooper, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Right, because nobody with a job uses linux as part of it. And even if there are people who do, they're not satisfied, because it's garbage. "Linux stupidity," indeed.
- schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13I just hope that Mark will use his deep pockets to fund contributers of device drivers and give incentives to manufacturers willing to make these (rather than simply accept binary drivers).
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Can digg just block myspace links already?
- prammy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10@MeatBiProduct:
"Which is great for the 'homebrew' crowd but is absolute tripe for the professional world. "
Yea, its tripe for companies which use it. Like Industrial Light & Magic, Pixar, Dreamworks, NASA, BMW, Google, IBM, Cisco, US Army. Hell, according to http://blogs.zdnet.com/ITFacts/?p=7913 53% of Fortune 500 companies use Linux. Pretty impressive for a 'homebrew' software.
You cannot really blame the Linux developers for not supporting XYZ brand of hardware if the vendor does not provide them with enough information to make a working good driver. Even then some people are able to reverse engineer and provide drivers for hardware such as broadcom wireless cards etc. - Stonekeeper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I think by "single brand of Linux," he means Ubuntu
- grevvvvvv, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9dkoon you are pretty much missing the point
- GnuTzu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8OpenGL support for the Voodoo 3000 was completed before those cards went off the market. I had Quake for Linux running on one of those once.
- nerd05, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I think by "single brand of Linux," he means a single distro.
- motang, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9nice, they impressed me with having a good video driver for my old voodoo 3000 card. man it is amazing what they are doing with Linux, I am glad to hear.
- ziadoz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5You can't expect wide spread adoption of Linux if you aren't going to provide good hardware support (proprietary or otherwise) out of the box. Whilst this may go against the whole open source software ethos I think the majority of people simply want their components to work, they don't want to be caught up the more 'political' side of computing (FOSS vs Commerical etc). This doesn't make them bad people, they're just consumers who want things to work and don't necessarily know any better. Meanwhile Linux communities bicker about this back and forth and Microsoft continues to dominate the market.
- ziadoz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think this will only confuse granny further.
- brundlefly76, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@mootang
With Linux, the older your hardware, the better off you are. - brundlefly76, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I agree with you on both counts.
Especially the Windows part - I have maintained 6 always-connected XP distros since it came out, and I think my AV has detected maybe 6 virii, and none of them were activated. It certainly does happen but it is certainly way overblown how often an average Windows computer becomes infected.
In general I havent had a stability problem with Windows since before Windows 2000. - FreakyPhil31, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Great, have people hooked on Ubuntu then charge them for UGA(Ubuntu Genuine Advantage). I'm on to you Mark!
- cynicist, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4 "actually, a single brand of Linux" --Shuttleworth
Guess he hasn't heard of LSB or Portland? - oobuntu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The Archos video player AV400 is essentially a usb disk with FAT filesystem. For some reason it doesn't allow write access with the in-laws ubuntu machine. Really annoying! I wish archos had tested this first.
- jlebrech, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Just get your granny a linux compatible memory card reader.
I think the camera is not the right analogy. - dukeinlondon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Not interested in a "single Linux brand" solution for hardware support. I have jumped distros when my priorities/interests changed and I don't want to lose that. hardware vendors don't even have to support any particular distro, just support opensource drivers for the current kernel.
- Technopundit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Every time somebody installs Linux, a puppy dies.
- Ramsees79, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Looks contradictory, hey Mark, how about mind fixing this simple bug?:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/67369
That bug is stopping me of using ubuntu. - PuffyC, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This article is spot on - Linux + 3rd party hardware Just Doesn't Work way too many times. Actually most of the time really. If you want Granny to be happy and to have her stuff Just Work , set her up with the free copy of Windows XP she got with her computer and set it up right. Your chances of getting a virus or some piece of malware with a properly configured Windows box is essentiually nil, contrary to the popular myth these days.
- somerandomnerd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I think I'm going to learn how Greasemonkey works, purely so that I can get rid of the myspace links that digg's editors don't seem to know how to deal with.
Besides, they do about as much good for the 9/11 "truth" movement as South Park did for scientology. - HsoKinees, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I doubt it'll cause much confusion.. my sister's computer (sadly, running Windows XP -- she's a linuxphobe) has a card reader and I've just put shortcuts onto the desktop so when she puts an SD card in, she can wait 2seconds and click the icon and it'll load up the right DIR which contains images/videos on the card.. quite easy..
- koregaonpark, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5I think he already is, Roy.
- brundlefly76, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I just did an Edgy install the other day - and it actually was the least successful install I have done with Desktop Linux in 11 years.
To start, it booted and froze blackscreen (attempted to load inappropriate video driver).
It then failed to setup my monitor, video card, mouse, NIC, and sound card.
It took 2 hours of googling to get the first three working properly (Monitor needed manual sync info in xorg, Mouse wouldnt work on USB hub(?), Video Card required Nvidia beta drivers), and there are no drivers for my NIC (Killer NIC, which is ironic, because it is an embedded Linux device!) or Sound Card (Creative X-Fi, which evidentally will never have a Linux driver, similar to laptop modems).
Also, the nvidia beta drivers are incredibly slow with drawing xwindows, which is ironic because I have an NVidia 8800GTX.
Plus, I still cant use the back button on my mouse with Firefox (which I use constantly). Still cant get that working.
Finally, as a matter of habit whenever I install Linux, I had to install Microsoft TrueType fonts and reconfigure all my font settings in KDE and Firefox, because the default fonts in Linux blow chunks. (On a default install, you will frequently see web font characters physically touching each other in Firefox - the kerning is horrendous - and the weight of the font body varies widely - the bitstream fonts are better but none of the supplied fonts come close to TTVerdana and TTTimes New Roman). - manova, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2That is why you don't install Linux on your Granny's computer.
- MeatBiProduct, on 10/12/2007, -25/+9One suggestion to move linux forward would be to loose all the gay mascots of dragons and other stupid *****. Second thing is, look what the compeitors get right. Do that and do it better.
I don't understand why it has taken Linux this long to get this far with so many intellegent people working on it. I think its because the approach to Linux by most users is the same approach as homebrewed software. Which is great for the 'homebrew' crowd but is absolute tripe for the professional world.
Even this blog suffers from linux stupidity. They should have 'bury as *****' as an option. Great points in the article but just as much part of the problem as part of the solution. - dkoon, on 10/12/2007, -22/+3Just set up a Windows box for games.
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