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- stormgren, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11No, it clearly skips intermediate users.
- kremvax, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I use uCLinux daily, but only on computers smaller than a mouse.
- b7illsmith, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Fedora, but I gave a thumbs up to the uCLinux guy.
- blacklotus135, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7gentoo.
- tomvendetta, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I'm a linux user, Windows 98 is the best linux there is.
Just messing, I'm an ubuntu user. - MeltedUFO, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11Does anyone on digg use any distro besides Ubuntu?
/SuSE user - mooninite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Fedora.
Look at all the "ubuntu folks" digg us down. Come on guys, we're all on the same side... good lord. - knupso, on 10/12/2007, -8/+14Digg me down! Please, I beg you.
- livet0ski, on 08/17/2009, -0/+5wouldn't it just be ubuntu networking for everyone?
- illicium, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Arch.
- knupso, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I use PCLinuxOS an Fedora. I tried Ubuntu but like some of the other distros better.
I'm just getting into linux so I haven't settled on one distro yet. - subliminal727, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This is pretty useful. Anyone can figure out the gui stuff as it's not much different from windows but the command line stuff is good to know.
- manitoba98xp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Well, unlike _all_ of the aforementioned distros, it uses the great (IMHO) packaging system APT. It comes on one CD, and does not need to compile. All of the basic applications are included (web browser, office suite, and more) but not too much. It's totally F/OSS (not commercial), ships you free CDs (if you want them), and has a massive community behind it (yes, even more so than others, just look at all of the "Ubuntu" Howtos we've had here recently). Mindshare is very powerful.
Many other distros are great, but I like Ubuntu best. And I am perfectly capable of running a Gentoo or Slackware system, before anyone says anything. I simply choose Ubuntu.
Of course, I won't hold it against you to use something else: we're all one big happy family...holding hands, just like the creepy Ubuntu people. :D - dmoney22, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2because unlike gentoo, its easy!
- hackwrench, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Why, becuase he doeesn't understand how NAT works, of course..
Oh, wait, they seem to be outside his private network, since he gives addresses starting with 192. further on, more common with NAT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation
But then again if that last digit of the first number is 2...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_IP_address - 0siris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I happen to be an "intermediate" user, this has nothing I need that i can understand, and nothing i can understand that i might need.
Now try to understand that sentience. - aschmack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Why does he white out his internal DNS server IPs?
- InetRoadkill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm a little surprised that you have to reset the entire networking stack when you change one of the interfaces in ubuntu. On my old RH system, it's simply ifdown eth0, make your cfg changes, ifup eth0, done.
I would have thought that it would be the same across all the distros since (presumably) the networking stack is the same given that it's part of the kernel.
Does ubuntu have ipchains? - b7illsmith, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3No! I will leave you at +1.
- usherzx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i'm a ubuntu/winxp user but i am really interested in using some of the other distros of linux just to see what else is out there and where each distro is different ... right now i'm kind of confused. all the screenshots of linux desktops that i have seen all look the same so far, so what exactly is the difference in each linux distro ?
- gilbert2048, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I use mainly Fedora and Ubuntu but i also use what ever I see fit for my situation at the time
yes I have multiple computer all running different distros
SuSE, Gentoo, PHLAK, are all distros I've used - guardsman85, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm fairly new (less than 6 months) to Linux and open source in general. I guess you could say that I'm a recent convert that "saw the light" and made the switch.
I had previously had many misconceptions about Linux: a) Mainly for servers and not a viable option for the desktop. b) Inferior to Windows or OSX. c) Too complicated to figure out in my free time.
Then one day I saw a feed for Digg that said something like "Ubuntu easiest Linux distribution for beginners yet" and decided to find out more. I tried several distros.
I didn't like OpenSuSE, mainly because of YAST and a more complicated (IMO) setup. Debian just seemed too cluttered for me. Gentoo...tried it, but I honestly don't remember why I didn't like it.
In short Ubuntu won as my distro of choice (at least for now) for these reasons:
Free - both as in price and as in licensing philosophy
LiveCD - I didn't want to back up my hard drive and reformat just to try something
Uncluttered - Not a bunch of packages I don't need upon install
Support - I personally found more relevant support info for this distro compared to others
Drivers - with the exeption of my video card Ubuntu had fewer problems with my hardware than did other distros I tried
I wouldn't digg someone down for using another distro. We all have different preferences and situations. What works for one, may not work for another. I just hope more people "see the light" like I did and make the switch to open source alternatives--whichever alternative they may choose. - dmoney22, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Linux from scratch anyone? Yeah, me neither.
- mantlepro, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Gentoo, SuSE, Mandrake, and Fedora are all better distros in my humble opinion. Ubuntu users: why do you prefer Ubuntu? What makes it so special?
- lilrabbit129, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1FC6
- 70phr3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@InetRoadkill:
ifup and ifdown work in Ubuntu as well...maybe thats the intermediate way of doing things - InetRoadkill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1RedHat 8. Never had any reason to upgrade.
- regeya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Start up a Terminal, and type 'man interfaces', and stay the hell away from the Ubuntu graphical config programs.
Here's mine:
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auto lo eth0 ppp0
iface lo inet loopback
iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.0.1
netmask 255.255.255.0
iface ppp0 inet ppp
provider provider
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See, I live out in the boonies, where my high-speed options are 'satellite' and 'go to hell.' Therefore, I have pppd configured to do dial-on-demand, have dnsmasq providing dns and addresses (yeah, dnsmasq does dhcp) and lazy ol' me lets firestarter firewall/nat the whole mess. Since I want to use dhcp on this machine and since I have firestarter handling the firewall rules, and the firewall rules clobber dhcp, I had to add this to /etc/firestarter/ - regeya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Aaargh! Accidentally clicked on Submit instead of Check Spelling, didn't have my comment come up on refresh, got an error when trying to submit my edit...someone tell kevin and alex to stop polishing their monocles and get their asses off the yacht and fix some stuff, man.*
First, here's what I had to add to /etc/firestarter/user-pre:
$IPT -A INPUT -i $INIF -p udp -s 0.0.0.0 --sport 68 -d 255.255.255.255 --dport 67 -j ACCEPT
Add that, restart Firestarter, and you should have no trouble with serving up dynamic addresses...once you have a dhcpd. I recommend configuring dnsmasq to do that, skip out on dhcpd, and DO NOT elect to assign addresses via DHCP in the Firestarter wizard.
Anyway, the reason for the line that says 'provider provider' is that I picked the default name 'provider' in pppconfig. Set 'em up in the curses (terminal-based) interface, save the config, add that. If I'd named it 'murderface', for example, that line would read 'provider murderface'.
So...yeah, a really brief rundown of what could be a potentially complex setup. But it's not, thanks to the hard work of Debian and Ubuntu devs.
One last thing: IF you want to set up a static address for eth0, and you have zeroconf installed, make sure to add the following to /etc/default/zeroconf:
IFBLACKLIST="eth0"
Either that, or if you want to disable zeroconf completely (might not be a bad idea)
DISABLE=yes
*old kuro5hin joke, sorry - aragon127, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Ubuntu, PCLinuxOS & Suse.
Suse is probably my favorite, but package management pissed me off so much I use Ubuntu more than the other 3.
PCLinuxOS is the easiest of the 3.
Ubunut seems to be right in the middle. Not as easy as PCLOS, not as "clean" as Suse but works just fine.
The myth of great Ubuntu support cracks me up though. Everyone thinks that because Ubuntu has so many users you can get great support on the forums. I ran into 7 problems with Ubuntu and not a single one was answered on the forums. Most of my questions were answered on the Suse forums and about half my questions answered on the PCLOS forums. - regeya, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Define 'better.' Maybe what's better to you really sucks for someone else. The main reason I use Ubuntu is because, with having a toddler in the house, I don't really want to spend all my free time on chasing down broken RPM deps (ok, so file-based dependencies rock, but shouldn't it be able to find the package of the file it's depending on all on its own?), crappy ebuilds, or whatever. Plus, to get the sort of system I'd want on a Debian system, I'd have to mix testing and unstable packages...no thank you. I'll let the friendly folks at Canoical handle that one.
The guide linked to in this article, though...I dunno, I'm gonna have to give whoever greenlighted the supported network setup the finger. Maybe both fingers. And a boot in the ass. Brutal. Apparently they considered Debian's method so broken that they had to replace it...then keep the Debian way around for giggles. Me, I edit /etc/network/interfaces.
More in another comment, as I'm getting way OT. - tpink, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I'm a little surprised that you have to reset the entire networking stack when you change one of the interfaces in ubuntu. On my old RH system, it's simply ifdown eth0, make your cfg changes, ifup eth0, done."
Yes, that's all you need to do (did it yesterday in fact). Always make sure you do:
sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
If you're connecting over SSH. If you do the first without the second you've just locked yourself out of the box and have to bring the network interface back up at the machine console (or over serial console). - breakaway, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1maybe if you didn't suck so much *****
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