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- jacobmp92, on 10/10/2007, -2/+38Now that's what I like to see: Release notes that are not a plain text file.
Congrats to the GNOME developers for another great release on-time yet again. - schestowitz, on 10/10/2007, -5/+41Kongratulation to the GNOME developers! Oops, I meant "Gongratulation".
- mournsanity, on 10/10/2007, -0/+24Looks great, and I can't wait to use it in the next version of Ubuntu. Congrats to all the developers and documentation people for getting it released on schedule!
- aCiD2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21Gotta say, these features although small, are very well thought out! More than half of these features made me say "hey, that's a cool idea!" Good work GNOME developers :)
- Tyr7BE, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17I agree that the 'g' and 'k' things are a bit over the top, but things have actually gotten a lot better over the last few years. For the ones you listed...
gftp: not a Gnome app, it's a GTK app (the 'G' in GTK stands for 'Gimp', whose 'G' stands for 'GNU', whose 'G' stands for...oh well forget it, it's too complicated)
gnumeric: I'll give you this one
gaim: Now called Pidgeon
Gnome-sudoku: Come on, the desktop is called Gnome!
Galeon: Over and done with, replacement project called Epiphany
Gnucash: 'G' for 'GNU'
Gimp: Again, 'GNU Image Manipulation Project'
Gnuchess: see above
gnumail: see above
gstreamer: Not sure what 'g' stands for here, but it's not Gnome, and I don't think it's GNU. Gstreamer is used in a lot of different desktops, including KDE
As for so on...
Evolution
Epiphany
Tomboy
File-Roller
Calculator
Beagle
F-Spot
Rhythmbox
Nautilus
etc...
That was a lot of effort to put into a post that I really don't give 2 ***** about. I must be very bored. - Tyr7BE, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15I especially like that screensaver note-leaving deal. That's a great idea.
- maybeway36, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15I actually use KDE, but GNOME is a great desktop too; they each have their strengths. Congrats on your 2.20 release!
- Tyr7BE, on 10/10/2007, -3/+16Damn that looks good!
One thing I've never understood. Why do all the fonts used in the release notes look like my ass? I mean, take a look at this screenshot:
http://www.gnome.org/start/2.20/notes/en/figures/rndevelopers-library-gnome-org.png
Note the differences between the text rendering used by the web browser widgets (menu bar, back button, etc), and the text rendering used in the actual web page ("Users", "Developers", "Available Languages", etc...). There's a world of difference, and IMO (and most other people's O), the web page rendering is the clear winner here. It's possible to make your widgets render text like that. In fact, it's ridiculously easy to get them rendering text like that, it's one of the first things I do whenever I install a new system. So why not get them rendering text in a half decent way if you're taking screenshots? The whole purpose of the screenshots is to showcase new features, and what better way to express how new and advanced your desktop is than moving your text rendering out of the 1970s into the 21st century? - sirhomer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13You know you can block the entire Linux section? Then you can have the "LOLz LOOK AT MY COUSIN!!1" news stories i.e. the rest of Digg.
- Malachai, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9DO NOT DO THE ABOVE COMMANDS.
If you do the first one, you'll mess up your Feisty sources. Gutsy is in development, unless you know what you're doing, I don't recommend upgrading for it until it is released in October. - modena, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Looks good, congratualtions GNOME team. I've been hearing so much about KDE4 lately I was wondering what the GNOME team was up to.
- sirhomer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9I see nothing wrong with the fonts.
- zwaldowski, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Your ass looks like smoothly anti-aliased fonts?
- Tyr7BE, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9Sounds like someone's a little pissed that the desktop doesn't allow one to customize how fast their cursor blinks.
- duprasi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Proper graphic design does not require the graphics to all be photorealistic (in terms of icons, it's quite often better for them to NOT be that way, in order to miniaturize them easily). It also does not require the window borders and widgets to resemble glass or steel. From an artistic standpoint, the modern GNOME look, with Tango and Clearlooks, is quite intelligently designed and graphically attractive. It's not photorealistic and shiny like Vista and Leopard, but it certainly now stands as an equal competitor.
- daradib, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6You have to upgrade to Ubuntu Gutsy (currently in Alpha stage) and then update.
- Tyr7BE, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7I actually really like the way Gnome's going in response to KDE4. Gradual incremental improvement instead of one huge release. It allows the platform to mature properly, instead of trashing all the work that was previously done in an area in favour of a whole new approach. Then with each release, they build on that solid foundation.
- atdigg, on 10/10/2007, -7/+12"only in KDE" have you ever used GNOME? What about: gnumeric, gftp, gaim, gnome-sudoku, galeon, gnucash, gimp, gnuchess, gnumail, gstreamer, and so on...
- jaymzz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6This means Debian will have it by October... 2011.
- duprasi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5What I am interested in is the new Clearlooks by Andrea Cimitan. It looks like he took the old Clearlooks, and combined it with a Tango feel (the modern standard for GNOME graphic design) and the Murrine glass-like appearance (his own personal pet project). It's... interesting. I like it, but it'll take some time for me to get accustomed to. At least with things like Tango icons, though, it's helping to forge an official, clean, recognizable GNOME appearance, whether you are one of those who like the design or not.
- thtroyer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4There's nothing wrong with Gnome. Sure, I don't like the blue Clearlooks theme, but that's a preference of mine. Gnome can be themed to look quite nice.
I use fluxbox as my WM. I surely hope your measure of a computer isn't how pretty the effects are... I can assuredly kick your butt in boot time, performance, and memory overhead (Gentoo + fluxbox... can't get much faster). And no, it doesn't look like poo. I'm learning to quite enjoy the minimalism. - rville, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Gratz, Gnome Dev Team.
Looks really good. The new more user friendly format release notes are superb. Finally. The old text files sucked bad.
I see some good improvements for users and not only changes that only affect programmers. But generally I think Gnome
needs better default settings for appearance. Better theme, fonts and font rendering.
I have always liked KDE better thou. But I'll constantly watch over what those gnome guys come up next... - Wyzard, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4There's already a desktop-wide keyring -- it's been around for a release or two. The new features are the ability to change its master password, and having it automatically unlock when you log in.
I've been using gnome-keyring to store my WPA passphrases for NetworkManager for quite awhile now. It works nicely. - GMorgan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Nice to see the improvements in Tomboy. I've held off on dedicated note applications until I can easily detach the notes from the client. Preferably you'd create a note file (with some sort of standard format, perhaps a stripped down XHTML in a tgz file) and Tomboy would store it's data there rather than storing it hidden in the home directory (hidden directories and files are for configuration, not user data. User data should always be visible and readily accessible) and then network access is as simple as pointing Tomboy at the appropriate file over the network.
Still using WebDAV or ssh is certainly an improvement over the current situation. They are at least looking in the right direction (in terms of functionality) even if they are doing it in an over complicated way. TBH this is an area I've been tempted to get involved in but right now we have loads of nascent options and I'm not sure I want to add another (even if none of the current ones do it right ;) ). - h0ly, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Congratulations! Looks like a nice and polished release.
Now I'm looking forward to the new GnomeVFS :) - jjb123, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Always more of a KDE man myself but glad to see all these projects moving along so well.
- hyperair, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4That's wonderful. I really like what they did with the file dialogues =P
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4And still Epiphany doesn't have a friggin' Search Box, that's a very basic feature...
A hint for the gnome-devs: http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6324/rnusersepiphanyjo3.jpg - geminitojanus, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4G, as in the 7th letter in the alphabet.
Oh, I bet you still think GNOME stands for Gnu Network Object Model Environment. That's not been true for quite a while. - Tyr7BE, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I find that KDE suffers from similar problems. The difference is that KDE uses a default font that doesn't look as bad with out modifying the font hinting settings (I can never remember if it's turning on or off the hinting...let's just call it 'doing whatever the Ubuntu guide says to do to make your fonts look like pure sex'). The font hinting is an X windows thing, so it really will affect all desktop environments.
And I definitely agree that more work is needed on default fonts. Vista's fonts look pretty damn good out of the box, so do OS X's. It's sort of ridiculous that you have to do some sort of special song and dance to get fonts on Linux up to par. I understand that it's not enabled by default because of patent issues, but it would be great to either get an open autohinter that can cut the mustard so we can enable that by default. At the VERY least, put a 'Use Nice Fonts' checkbox in some very obvious preference box. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -7/+10i think you meant "Congratulation". they do that only in KDE
- renegadeafk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Damn lookin pretty nice.
- mezoko, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Looks like its a little bit more user friendly
- LinuxKitty, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Good way of looking at it. KDE and Gnome discussions often end in flame wars. Never made sense to me, since choice is a Good Thing. If people wanted just one GUI/DE, they might as well have stayed with Microsoft's OS.
- hyperair, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3My my, then I must conclude that you're not at all observant.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Gnome is becoming little more user friendly with each new release.
- zwaldowski, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3@atdigg: Gnome used to mean "GNU Network Object Model Environment," however, the acronym was dropped and the project is now just Gnome. Stop referring to it as GNOME.
- duprasi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3To my knowledge, GNOME has Bitstream Vera as the default font, and KDE uses Deja Vu, which is the exact same font as Bitstream Vera except with additional unicode characters. Any difference in appearance would have to be because of different font rendering techniques, I would think, not the font itself.
- Tyr7BE, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3It's a matter of opinion. I think they look too...'skinny'? There's no shadow to them. They're not smooth. Though I've heard people complain that the alternate version (web page version) is too blurry for them. To each his own. I've just heard a lot more people complain about the default fonts than the smooth versions.
- Tyr7BE, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Just turn on small menu widgets. It's in the 'Menu and Panel' prefs or something like that. Shrinks them down to like half their normal size (comparable to the size of the back/forward buttons on Windows firefox, but across the board for all apps). And all the buttons and scroll bars are exactly the same size as they are on OS X and Windows.
I mean, you might have found that out yourself if the second thing you did is figure out how to customize your desktop, rather than uninstalling it as the second thing because it doesn't suit you perfectly after only turning off font hinting. The second thing I do is go to the Desktop prefs pane and set up my installation how I like it. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Wow - this is fantastic. Kudos to the Gnome team for providing such helpful release notes.
- maybeway36, on 10/19/2007, -1/+3you're inkorrekt.
- Billthe4th, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2the gaim project is now pidgin, not Pidgeon (which is actually spelt pigeon)
Other than that, a very thorough comment :) - deadbaby, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3If GNOME can learn from KDE fonts, KDE can learn from GNOME minimalism. Putting every single option on the screen in the form of 60 little icons and 15 checkboxes doesn't really appeal to a lot of people. You need to find a happy medium of usability/clutter/power.
- DarkJesus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Also, the software has to be released before it can be packaged.
However, I do agree with the wine posts. They are bloody 2 weekly! I think we can predict them without needing the help of digg. - anshuman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Fastastic !!!!!! :)
- Wyzard, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2They're oversized because they have text labels under each button. Turn off the text labels (in Preferences -> Menus & Toolbars) and they're nice and compact.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Now I want the ones who dugg me down tell me why?
- djGentoo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1fail
- Wyzard, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2It's still referred to as "GNOME" on the project's own website. The page title is "GNOME 2.20 Release Notes".
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