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- wispygalaxy, on 04/28/2008, -1/+9I am a girl who uses Linux. I started off with Ubuntu 7.10, and now I am interested in other distros, such as Fedora, Debian, and Arch. I like programming and computers in general. My little sister thinks I'm a "hacker" for using Linux. That hurts a lot, and I hope that she realizes that girls can be interested in other technologies besides cell phones, cameras, and iPods. A lot of girls I know want to be elementary school teachers, lawyers, artists, and beauticians. They should realize that technology careers can be cool, too! Math is my strong point, so I always liked science and math. I'm majoring in finance, but I'm learning programming on my own. I might go for a minor in computer science if I have the time. All in all, Linux taught me a great deal about computers. :)
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -0/+5seconding the gentoo suggestion here...
and you should *own* that "hacker" label, be honored! :o) - wispygalaxy, on 04/28/2008, -0/+4Haha, thank you! I don't want to have a bad label or anything. My sister is just misinformed, I guess. I should scare her and say that I'll hack her cell phone. (I don't know how to, really!)
- wispygalaxy, on 04/28/2008, -0/+3Thanks for the advice, weizbox! I'll give Gentoo a try since it gives me a lot of control over my system. It's good to hear that the documentation is thorough. I'm very interested in seeing how the various distros turn out. I should be getting some books, too, on the subject. I'm looking forward to Fedora 9 coming out!
- weizbox, on 04/28/2008, -0/+2Go spend a buck or so to freak her out by calling/txting her from a friends number... or her own (generally shows up as 'Voicemail' incoming, heh) ;)
http://spooftel.com
I'm sure there are other sites that do the same thing.. this is just one example i know of. Haven t looked into what it would involve to do it yourself without the service yet... but for how cheap it is.. i could care less :) - weizbox, on 04/28/2008, -1/+3Try a Gentoo stage3 install and learn even more about Linux if that seems to be your goal. For me it was a great way to learn how the basics of the system are set up, and ultimately gave me a larger view/idea of Linux outside of distro-specific issues and configurations. The documentation is also VERY well done on both the official gentoo.org site and on sites such as gentoo-wiki.com
I also would suggest trying all of the major distros out, if only from the LiveCD to get a feel for what each one is about, and how they function :) - inactive, on 04/27/2008, -1/+3would you concede that you actually meant conceited?
- dynacrylic, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2Close mouth; breathe through nose.
- dynacrylic, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2In my computer class there are 10 students, 2 of which are females, one being me. There are only 2 students in the class that use linux, me also being one.
We linux chicks normally don't go around bobbing our heads saying" Ohh maa gawd.. Like I use this thing like windows but it's free and has a cute penguin for it's mascot." - inactive, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1You make a valid point; in that we cannot combat "classical" sexism with "counter" sexism. But that isn't what this is about.
If you are a male and would like to help LinuxChix and join the community I think that you would be more than welcomed; they are not trying to "exclude" men. And while (hopefully) with true gender equality of opportunity, we would not *need* programs like this, and they would in fact be detrimental; at the moment there *are* significant undercurrents of gender bias, especially in tech arenas and the "hard" sciences. Because of this, it *is* helpful to provide a "safe" environment for ostracized minorities to find support without the fear of subtle gender biases affecting interaction. While programs like this cannot alone solve all the problems of gender inequality (of opportunity) they can allow a girl who might otherwise feel discouraged early on, having her undeveloped ambitions nipped in the bud, to gain that first step of confidence and allow her to go on and compete on equal footing in what you might call "the real world". Programs like LinuxChix or GirlStart or various programs that encourage girls in math, science, and technology are never meant as a "shortcut" or a "cheat", but merely a positive environment that they might not otherwise find.
It's true that largely, no-one has the audacity to outright and blatantly exclude women anymore (although blatant, overt sexism *is* still a problem in various countries around the world, most notably in Africa and the Middle East) but take, for example, the various "name studies" in which the same article or resume is sent to various academic journals or prospective employers, the only difference being the name at the top. Invariably a female name will perform more poorly than a male name (subconscious racial bias is also apparant, with typically "ethnic" names performing worse than typically "white" names). This, to me at least, makes it clear that there are still many gender (and class, racial, etc) bias issues that need to be solved. Racism is still undeniably a problem, even after slavery was outlawed, blacks gained the right to vote, and segregation laws were repealed; legislation is not the end-all and be-all of discrimination. Since most of these legislative milestones were gained by women decades after the same milestones were passed for black americans, I can only imagine that the *cultural* biases are likewise a few decades behind.
Saying "Sexism is no longer an issue; women are free to do anything a man can do" does not accurately portray the full situation, and is overall a detrimental viewpoint to hold in that is allows people to feel comfortable with simply ignoring the issues. - sybesis, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2this is cute and all...but where are they...i mean...here we have 100% men in our class. 17% use linux (me and an other guy)
there is close to 7% girl in the university where i'll go next year...its like...am i in the wrong country...:| - weizbox, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2So instead of her influencing and changing this "locker room mentality" that she was seeing by participating with the majority of Linux users.. she decided to try to separate girls from the the guys? Why create division? I personally haven't seen any signs of this 'locker room mentality' on any of the Linux forums that I visit... but perhaps Deb was going somewhere I wasn't.
'LinuxChix is a community for women who like Linux and Free Software, and for women and men who want to support women in computing. '
So... they're all go for only helping women, but not men. Men can help women.. but the goal is only to help women, and not men. How sexist is that? Why just focus on helping women? I'm pretty sure the inverse of this idea, or the same idea based on race instead of sex wouldn't go over too well.... and if that's truly the case, it looks to be a double-standard.
Lets just help people with Linux, regardless of sex/race/religion or anything else. Is that so bad? - theeldest, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2I didn't know canadians spoke Engrish.
No, you're not in the wrong country. (but what are you studying? That's probably the issue) - theeldest, on 04/27/2008, -1/+216 kids at my University graduated with a physics degree (one being me). 2 were female (12.5% is pretty good, right?).
One used Mac, the other was a BSD girl. I think she did it for the Daemon Mascot. ;)
What distro do you use? - weizbox, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1lol, yes... I don't know why someone dugg you down to zero but I'll digg you right back up.
You are absolutely correct :) - wispygalaxy, on 04/29/2008, -0/+1That sounds hilarious! I'll look into it. ;)
- pwnies, on 04/28/2008, -0/+1Welcome to having science and engineering as your major.
- amanilaenvelope, on 04/28/2008, -3/+3of course girls love Linux, just look at what this girl did to show her appreciation. http://blog.chip.de/chip-linux-blog/wp-content/upl ...
- inactive, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1Not to mention, Fictional too...........
- weizbox, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1and...?
- weizbox, on 04/27/2008, -3/+3People that say they are sexy are conceded, like you ;-)
- supersexyslax, on 04/27/2008, -3/+3Dugg! Girls who are into Linux are so sexy like me ;-)
- estvir, on 04/28/2008, -2/+1Uh, you guys are pathetic.
- inactive, on 04/27/2008, -2/+1I'm using Ubuntu :)
- supersexyslax, on 04/27/2008, -2/+1Haha! But still I'm sexy. ;-)
- weizbox, on 04/27/2008, -3/+2lol, lets see :P
- weizbox, on 04/28/2008, -2/+1I just like to verify information before accepting it as true :)
- subgeniusd, on 04/28/2008, -2/+1Uhh.....ok. I think you'd be more at home here http://digg.com/news/educational . This is more of a techie forum as the heading "Linux/Unix" sort of implies.
- richman241, on 04/27/2008, -2/+1finally there is a reason for girls to love me :-)
- inactive, on 04/27/2008, -2/+1doesn't count if you are a fatty.
- Hypomyxolydian, on 04/28/2008, -4/+2Girls pee out of their butts.
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