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- duhblow7, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9No problems with the live CD. The reason the install is so in depth because it's a beginning to what is known as "the gentoo way". Gentoo is a source distribution, opposed to most others, which are binary distributions. It has a lot of installation steps because as you install items need by the OS, you usually have a choice. For instance; you need to install a kernel, you can choose among dozens of choices. Then you move on to the next step, which could be a syslogger, again a dozen choices. etc etc. I understand binary distributions can ask these same questions during the install, but they are installing a precompiled copy. You don't get to compile the app with your architecture in mind and you get USE flags that a developer feels is best for everybody, not necessary what's best for your application.
To each his own of course, but as you can probably tell, I'm a big fan of Gentoo.
I can have a P4 up and running in under 30 mins following Gentoo's install guide.
BTW, gentoo was the first distro I actively used. I installed Redhat as my first distro, and it was great, I had a workable OS, but I learned next to nothing during the install. Slack was a little more in depth, but again, didn't learn much. Then I tried Gentoo. First time to install took me a week to learn what I was actually doing and to get a workable OS. But I learned more during this installation than all of my previous linux experienced combined. That was in late 2003 and I haven't looked back. I run linux on 5 production servers and 3 workstations.
This turned into a lot longer than I wanted. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@baalzebub
When I read your comment, all I see is "I'm too stupid to read the manual so I rather just find a distro where all I have to do is look for an Install button" - stoffe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@dharm, cowsay (thanks for the tip) on Ubuntu uses the "good" cow too! ;-)
sudo apt-get install cowsay
cowsay moo
Hehe :)
That said, why knock Gentoo people? It's an awesome distro and I used to run it. The only reason I switched was that Gentoo is no fun unless you are running it on the edge, and well, finally I had to get some work done. ;-) Stable would have worked, of course, but then I didn't see the point of Gentoo... Gentoo is meant for people who like to tinker, after all. - dharm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@baalzebub
your opinion is outdated...
gentoo's official gui installer has improved alot, and there are few steps. you can have a complete system up in 30 mins. there still are a few quirks.
but then there is the gentoo livedvd/installer Sabayonlinux, http://www.lxnaydesign.net/index.php (formerly rr4 linux). it is very well polished
also this is not a topic about ubuntu vs gentoo really. they have their own communities, and their own purpose. one is aimed at being user friendly, other being able to control every aspect of it and being on the bleeding edge of linux applications. just cause you dont see gentoo articles that often on digg, does not mean that the community is small. even if you dont use gentoo, you should hitup gentoo forums for general linux tips for networking, gaming, and security cause it has a great and advanced community.
anyways the ubuntu cow looks messed... someone should fix it, even though it doesnt do anything...
http://gentoo-portage.com/games-misc/cowsay - Seraph787, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I learned gentoo, then used ubuntu.
I have to say first using gentoo you really learn about linux inside out. It is definitley the easy way to teach yourself about linux... lol "easy way" anyway. I loved its optimization and customizablity. The support for gentoo is just sorta insane you can find almost anything on the wiki. Though compiling of proggies is a bitch. Gentoo is unique because when something goes wrong you know how to fix it and where to fix it immediately because you were forced to put everything where it is now.
Though I love ubuntu because everything is quick simple and beautiful. forum support is pretty amazing.
I like both, though gentoo is definitely for those who are looking for the totally personalized and optimized destop. While ubuntu is going for look it works! - shrewduser, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2gentoo really is the (possibly obsessive) power users distro, just because you don't "get it" doesn't mean you should knock it.
i'm an ubuntu man myself, but my server is all gentoo baby ;) - deadlock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Gentoo has a bit of a reputation for being a "ricer's" distro but it's actually an extremely flexible distribution and very well-suited to running on servers etc. Portage is an absolutely fantastic package management system and far outstrips the FreeBSD ports system on which it is based, in terms of customisability, searchability and so on. The USE flags alone put portage light-years ahead of anything else.
But all of that is eclipsed by the community on the Gentoo forums who are one of the most helpful Linux user groups I've ever come across. There is very little of the elitist attitude that one would expect from Gentoo users based on the stereotypical view of them and the Gentoo forums are almost always one of the first places that I check when I'm having a problem with *any* Linux distro, not just Gentoo.
Also, installing Gentoo can be a bit of a mare if you've never done it before and there's no denying that there's a steep learning curve but in my opinion portage - and the tools that accompany it - makes managing a Gentoo installation far easier than just about any other distribution. - colonelpanic414, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1/lecture
Please don't spam, dude. Before you say it, having the word "cow" in your site's title and content about Linux doesn't make it a relevant link for a discussion about ASCII cows in Ubuntu and Gentoo.
/end lecture - projecteternity, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0How does gentoo's "elephant being eaten by a snake" stack up to ubuntu's?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Gentoo has a better cow than Ubuntu!
But nobody has a better cow than Apple.
http://www.appledefects.com/media/moo.mp3 - tcort, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0http://larrythecow.net is pretty beefy.
- baalzebub, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5when gentoo works the bugs out of their live CD installer they will win more users, other than that gentoo is just another distro with a difficult and obsure installation method, even debian and slackware have easier installers...
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