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- sjbdallas, on 09/30/2008, -11/+114Another victim of the sub-prime mortgage crisis.
- leodavinci, on 10/01/2008, -2/+95Title makes it sound like Gentoo was about to die...
- quamsta, on 10/01/2008, -3/+47They probably couldn't release it on time because Xorg is still compiling after 12 months.
- RoboDonut, on 09/30/2008, -1/+36Not a big deal at all. This only applies to the LiveCD, and an up-to-date LiveCD is entirely optional. Personally, I'm still using 2004.3.
Because Gentoo is a "metadistribution", you can install it from within any functional Linux system. There's nothing special about the LiveCD, as far as I know. - gimpbully, on 10/01/2008, -0/+32dear god, come up with a better effin headline! I nearly had a heart attack.
- brisbin33, on 09/30/2008, -5/+27you seem to be getting burried; made me laugh, i'll digg.
- Khabi, on 10/01/2008, -1/+20yea, should probably have said 'Release' instead of 'Distribution'.
- inactive, on 10/01/2008, -1/+19Sensationalist title, buried.
- JakeW, on 10/01/2008, -2/+20I got scared for a second, because I read it as they were not going to be supporting it anymore.
Then I remembered it was Linux and open source.. = )
(And then I read it right...)
Oh, the comforts of Linux. - wrek, on 10/01/2008, -0/+11Enjoyed comment, would read again! A++++++++
- Shootfast, on 10/01/2008, -1/+12Wait till they get round to compiling KDE...
- funklor, on 10/01/2008, -1/+11Misleading article, for accuracy it should say "cancels release" and to that I say: big f*cking deal -- it uses a rolling release system, it continuously evolves, versions are nothing more than snapshots.
- weizbox, on 09/30/2008, -0/+9'There's nothing special about the LiveCD, as far as I know.'
There really isn't.. I normally do a stage3 install from a Sabayon Live DVD because of all the included app I get to play with while I'm installing. If this will push resources in other directions (bugs, patches, updated packages, etc), I'm all for it. - binarysemaphore, on 10/01/2008, -0/+7I was about to write R.I.P Gentoo after reading headline...but then I read article..
- McReynolds, on 10/01/2008, -0/+6I have used gentoo for four years. I installed 2004.0 in '04 and my system is as good as new as of a few months back when I last did an "emerge world"(update everything). With gentoo a new distribution does not mean a lot, it is just a headache for the gentoo developers to bind and repackage.
The heading did scare me though. - weizbox, on 10/01/2008, -0/+5Gentoo already is a rolling-release distro, like Arch, etc. So no... the article was not about that as it has already been a fact since the distro began.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_release - pdiddle, on 10/01/2008, -0/+5> I haven't used Gentoo since around early 2005. What exactly happened?
Nothing. The x.org project moved the original monolithic XFree86 source to a modular design around the time of X.org 7.0. The idea behind this was being able to rebuild individual elements of X.org (ie. drivers, dri, proto etc.) without rebuilding the entire Xorg source for a bug fix in one package. And then the Gentoo X.org team moved to modular ebuilds for each package.
Not to mention the current X.org maintainers had X.org 7.4 in the testing tree the same day it was released, as they're quite active on the xorg mailing lists.
Parent post is FUD. - KWhat, on 09/30/2008, -1/+6Lets not forget profiles. Along with updated packages on the live cd profiles also get updated providing new sets of use flags for your environment. Although this is not immediately critical it may lead to complications down the line. For more information on profiles check out http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml
- brundlefly76, on 10/01/2008, -0/+4bait headline should have read 'Gentoo cancels distribution RELEASE'
- SteveMax, on 10/01/2008, -1/+5Or OpenOffice. On ARM. And the 68000. Specially when they find out that cross-compiling has been broken...
- SteveMax, on 10/01/2008, -0/+4You don't need a new CD to select a new profile. I installed somewhere around 2004.2 and I'm now at 2008.0/desktop. On a weekend, change the softlink at /etc/make.profile, sync, emerge -uDN world, revdep-rebuild, and you're on "the latest release".
- funklor, on 10/01/2008, -0/+4http://www.funtoo.org/linux/
stage3 tarballs updated weekly :) - sewerraccoon, on 10/01/2008, -2/+5this post is made of pure win
- Protoss, on 10/01/2008, -2/+5Rolling releases FTW! ArchLinux FTW!
- weizbox, on 09/30/2008, -0/+3More info on their forums. Not sure why it wasn't included in the article:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-708686.html - Culyt, on 10/01/2008, -0/+2Gentoo is basically a rolling release, the first thing you need to do after installing it is update to the latest version.
It would be nice if there was an automatically generated iso though...
☢ - neotrantor, on 10/01/2008, -0/+21.5 server was just moved to ~arch this past week
- Origin415, on 10/01/2008, -0/+2When you install it from a minimal cd, you are basically downloading the latest automatically generated tarball for your base system. Not much to update normally.
- IAmRoot, on 10/01/2008, -0/+2It does matter, though, that the newer cds are running newer kernels. The older cds don't necessarily have all the drivers you need (most importantly, network). I generally use knoppix or sabayon livecds for installs, though, and only use the gentoo disks when I've got slow downstream and don't want to download 700mb or more. This decision is actually an upgrade, because now there will be weekly livecd builds, meaning more of that all important driver support. I've had trouble in the past with gentoo cds being too outdated.
@KWhat
Only if you're doing a networkless install, which kind of defeats one of the main features of gentoo: custom compile and USE flags. If I have to use networkless because of driver issues, I always emerge -ave world anyway. - weizbox, on 10/01/2008, -0/+2As long as the devs keep the packages up to date, I'll keep using Gentoo, regardless of how the office politics are going.
- weizbox, on 10/01/2008, -0/+2You mean you fail at following instructions? The update was very simple... I didn't have any problems at all with it.
Way to go. - arcticblue, on 10/01/2008, -0/+2I haven't used Gentoo since around early 2005. What exactly happened?
- symx, on 10/04/2008, -0/+1dude, they can't compile kde cause X has still not finished compiling ...
- symx, on 10/04/2008, -0/+1gentoo is fun and it surely is highly configurable but if you want an easy (as in fast and as automatic as possible ) to update system then it's not the right choice. The harder it is for you to update the less likely to do it.
- MadHarvey, on 10/01/2008, -0/+1Thats one of the great things about open source. That wouldn't happen as long as people were still interested in it.
- AsusMobo, on 10/01/2008, -1/+2Since Robbins left the whole thing went down hill. It was like 100 people on a power trip, so fricken annoying. I bailed about a year after.
- inactive, on 10/02/2008, -0/+1Headline is misleading, Gentoo is not cancelled - the scheduled release is, submitter is an asshat.
- bitbytebit, on 10/01/2008, -0/+12.5 days! on an i686 .. god I hate gentoo oh and that was a stage 3 install
- neotrantor, on 10/07/2008, -0/+1nvidia has been lax on the linux support too, my fps on glxgears went from 20k to 12k with the newer drivers
- LinuxGalore, on 10/01/2008, -1/+2I have been using Xorg 1.5 now for two weeks under kubuntu - Intrepid, it's very stable and works well and I love how you don't have to edit the xorg.conf file anymore. The only issue I have is that ATI hasnt released drivers to work with xorg 1.5 and they are not due out till later this month so I have to use the FOSS driver with no 3D support.
- tortov, on 10/01/2008, -0/+1There's something to that, but it would still be a bitch if your distribution went under. Distros are less about source code than the service they provide: a repository of well-maintained ports. If Gentoo shut down and the main Portage tree went offline, I imagine that would be pretty painful for Gentoo users.
- Giga, on 10/02/2008, -0/+0But then it wouldn't have been bait.
- Codes02, on 10/01/2008, -1/+1Could we just get a newer version of xorg, then? 7.2 is killing me.
- Giga, on 10/02/2008, -0/+0As long as *enough* people were still interested in it. Also, since the Gentoo Foundation owns the copyright to the name and artwork et al, the continuance would most likely be a fork with a different name.
- inactive, on 10/02/2008, -1/+0Write congress. Gentoo needs a 700mb bailout before they accidentally the whole distribution. Seriously I had fun with gentoo back in the day.
Remember kids "Gentoo is Rice" - brettalton, on 10/01/2008, -2/+1I think that article could have been summed up as:
"Gentoo is looking to include rolling updates, similar to Arch Linux, in the near future." - ptFoe, on 10/01/2008, -6/+4It is not "canceled" but "suspended" in commemoration of the brave efforts by John McCain.
- phaedrusiszen, on 10/01/2008, -2/+0How so? I've got three year old Gentoo install I'm typing this on that I converted to modular X, no problem.
- antoniuk, on 10/01/2008, -7/+2Gentoo broke itself when it modularized Xorg. It is now dead to to the egos of the maintainers. Way to go.
- kishosingh, on 10/01/2008, -11/+4I had heard, Linux is launching its new version also.
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