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- arbulus, on 10/10/2007, -3/+30You don't know the power of the GNOME side!
- weijie90, on 10/10/2007, -6/+32Begun another GNOME vs KDE flamewar has...
- AforAlexander, on 10/10/2007, -10/+35I for one am, and have been a happy Gnome user for years now.
(no clue what you KDE nubs are doing in this topic to be honest) - kahrn, on 10/10/2007, -2/+21You sir do not have a clue. Ubuntu and Fedora both come with Gnome enabled by default (or at least, Fedora net install does) and counless other distributions use Gnome as the default desktop environment.
- gimlik, on 10/10/2007, -5/+23World of Warcraft has forever ruined my life. Even though I've used GNOME and KDE, anytime I see the word 'gnome,' I think of my little gnome mage.
Damn you Blizzard!!!!!! - HerbertScrunge, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15How about a source that's less than 5 years old?
Anyway, happy birthday GNOME - you're not my preferred DE, but here's to another 10 years of success!
Is it not fitting that GNOME should be winning the Desktop Linux Poll on its Birthday? :) - krewemaynard, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14...yet much more friendly than dwarves. Plus, you can throw a gnome. Dwarves get all huffy with you about that.
- krewemaynard, on 10/10/2007, -3/+17Gnome has come a long way in those years. I really got into it when RedHat 8 introduced BlueCurve. That was something like version 2.2 I think. Now I'm using 2.18, and with each release, there's always some new, subtle feature that I almost don't notice until I try to go back to an earlier version and realize New Feature X isn't there. I'm looking forward to a version 3.
- speaker219, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13Would you stop the GNOME/KDE flamewar? USE WHATEVER YOU WANT TO USE. That's what makes Linux shine. If you like KDE, fine, keep it to yourself. If you like GNOME, fine, keep it to yourself.
- martyFREEDOM, on 10/10/2007, -8/+21I dunno I kinda like xfce.
- DrBob, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12How can you call it a POS, and then say you're not insulting the dev team?!
- Peit, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12Mirror for the first picture:
http://rs171l33.rapidshare.com.nyud.net/files/49024673/gnome.png
(logged in X as root! :-P) - xspinkickx, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13KDE though its more customizable, however I still prefer gnome and xfce, KDE, I find is always, ugly, no matter what. I have yet to see a KDE desktop that I like.
- REUYL, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Ubuntu articles make the front page every day and you ask this?
- keyo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11SVG!! for one, and it's much much more customizable
- gordmoo, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13note: this is an article about gnome not about whatever you happen to think about it or what you think about kde, no one cares. just say happy birthday and be done :)
- aNoble, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Anybody got a mirror of the first screenshot?
- HerbertScrunge, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10No, I call almost 40% market share success:
http://www.desktoplinux.com/cgi-bin/survey/survey.cgi?view=results&id=0813200712407 - Xanium4332, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Ubuntu - Default is Gnome
- DrBob, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9kahrn's point is that many distributions use GNOME by default, rather than KDE, and therefore there are many GNOME users.
- manstein01, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Happy b-day Gnome! I am personally a KDE user, but if Gnome is your thing that's fine with me. Cool thing about Linux...you can choose what you like (friggin revolutionary I tell ya).
- johnnykwest, on 10/10/2007, -0/+810 print "what an idiotic comment"
20 goto 10 - cypherz, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9offtopic, but Xfce rocks:
http://www.xfce.org/about/screenshots. - fuckinhell, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Why can't you?
- CDoug03, on 10/10/2007, -6/+12freaking gnomes. they are about as annoying as hobbits.
- DrBob, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6What's wrong with Tango? I think the set's great.
- simca, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6KIOslaves, for example. fish:/ in any kde software's file requester opens another host via ssh, just like you browsing on your own pc, bluetooth:/ does this with bluetooth devices.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KIO - tuxerware, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7What, you don't like to be treated older then you are?
- bigern75, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8I dont understand o.O
- killercow, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Congratulations guys, may the road of gnome development take you to wonderfull and places.
- fuckinhell, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5I would compare KDE more to Windows and Gnome more to OS-X as far as interface design and usability goes. I just think that Gnome tends to be more elegant.
I started using LINUX with KDE but Gnome is just more beautiful. I really don't think it is any less flexible than KDE just different. It feels to me like OS-X unlocked.
KDE just feels like Windows with a ***** of crap to sift thru to do what you want to do.
Just my opinion. Not saying anyone should use Gnome unless they want to but saying that KDE is better is just a matter of opinion. - AforAlexander, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4You are totally right *****. In fact, most people who come to my house and see my gentoo/gnome workstation running think I'm an Apple/OSX user.
- Xenex, on 10/10/2007, -5/+8You have a problem with dual licensing? Then you must hate the triple licensing that Mozilla use: http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/relicensing-faq.html
I hope you don't use Firefox. - Fartag, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4"...designed within the realm of what it's supposed to be"
What does that mean, and how do you know what it's "supposed" to be? Cite any specific thing that makes KDE "a mess" or that makes Gnome so "poor", what alternate methods, modes, layout, capabilities should it support but doesn't, are you basing this on some GUI psych study? etc. Factless complaints with intent to disparage are counterproductive at best. - Ademan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Agreed, i gave it a try on one of my full-time machines, and I was very happy with it, except for one huge thing, the network-manager-applet kept multiplying every time i logged in (including reboots, it was a laptop after all, one with poor battery life at that, so it got turned off a lot unless it was on my desk) so i quickly switched back to GNOME, but i'm actually using xfwm, it was so nice...
- stalefries, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3If you're going to feed a troll, at least use the reply button.
- Fairly, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4What an *****. Vandal.
- C0D3M3C4, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2It may have looked clunky but once I managed to install RH6.1 and had purchased an external modem to get my inet working I was hooked :-D
- init100, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Because it has been shown time and again that Miguel is a true Microsoft fanboy.
- benplaut, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I will continue to use KDE and recommend Gnome! Hurmph!
- SteveMax, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2God, I can't believe people are misunderstanding this.
The design philosophies of both projects are opposed. Gnome's goal is to give users a default environment in which everybody should feel comfortable, while KDE's is to give the user enough power to drive their desktop to please every single point of their preferences while giving them a pretty poor default experience. Both attract every possible type of users.
The first point is that most people start with Gnome, not KDE (case in point -> Ubuntu). The second point is that every KDE/Gnome flamewar is stupid. Both are wonderful desktop environments, and both have done much more to advance free software to the desktop than almost every other project around.
However, in almost all flamewars, the stupid comments are in the tone of "KDE is ugly and complicated, Gnome is for nubs". Both points could be valid, but point only half of the picture: Gnome attracts new users, so it must be doing something right; while KDE's uglyness can be fixed by downloading one theme and you don't have to see its complications unless you want to. I'm surprised to see these lame arguments going the other way around, and that's all. - Gatesophile, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I love Miguel de Icaza. He's a genius.
- mikedoth, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Blowing this a bit out of proportion perhaps?
- cptl, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Oh God was that ever hideous! Makes my old AfterStep desktop look downright slick.
Kudos to the Gnome people for coming such a long way. - xspinkickx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2you know what I agree thats what makes linux so wonderful, if you need a thin desktop environment you can always use window maker, flux box, xfce, thats the good thing about linux we have choice lets stop flaming each others choices.
- Ademan, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Erm, he's totally right and you're a moron. Qt's ***** dual license involves raping you in the ass with license fees so high they're discussed only after signing a non disclosure agreement, mozilla's is just several open licenses.
From your link:
"Why is Mozilla code being relicensed?
Primarily to address concerns about whether the Mozilla licensing scheme is "compatible" with the GPL and LGPL."
Trolltech's dual license is to get more money, mozilla's was to help the community, that's worlds apart buddy. - Wyzard, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Just like Windows was another project that wanted desperately to look like the Mac? Both at the beginning (Windows 1.0) and now (Vista).
- xspinkickx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2no agree but I can kinda do that with gnome, its a big more out of ones way, however that being said, KDE is way easier to customize, but there is an elegance and simple look to gnome that I just prefer.
- Fartag, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Ugliness is a subjective thing, but with a highly customizable desktop you've got a good chance of customizing whatever you find ugly out of it, right? In KDE you can customize themes, color schemes, GUI styles, window header styles / sizes, font defaults, border sizes, colorized transparency, gradient scales, image incorporation in some GUI parts, button placements, desktop bar customization, various applets, superkaramba, splash screens on bootup, icon sets, desktop backgrounds and effects with that, and other things in there.
- Seidoger, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Long live the foot!
GNOME was my first ever connection with a Linux desktop environment, on RedHat 5.0
I will always have a place for you in my heart! Haha. -
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