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- geminitojanus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+32*Nautilus gets...
For the record, this bug has been on record since at least 2004. Thank goodness people are actually paying attention to Nautilus development again. - z0mbie2099, on 10/10/2007, -4/+30Wow really, I wasn't even aware this feature was missing, go figure.
- RealityBender, on 10/10/2007, -1/+25alright who let the windows guy comment on this story
- lassegs, on 10/10/2007, -2/+23This is the best thing about 2.20. I've missed this for so long.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16Gnome has had drag and drop for ages, it just has better drag and drop now.
- mvent2, on 10/10/2007, -5/+20I see the Windows trolls are coming out of their ***** again. GNOME has always had drag and drop (in addition to its other superior usability features to Windows), this is just so you can drag files from File Roller to Nautilus. Why this is Digg-worthy I don't know, but oh well.
- mvent2, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16You really don't have a clue. PS, DirectX10 is still slower than OpenGL.
- Optimaximal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14Your comment is right, but your linux fanboyism has just made you look like a prick.
Windows has always supported dragging and dropping because the OS is written from the ground up as a GUI-based system - d&d is an integral part so they needed to get it right.
Linux/Unix are CLI-based with a GUI bolted ontop afterwards - the only reason it's been implemented is because the increasing need to up the marketshare (for some reason) has driven the development of X and the desktops. - geminitojanus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13Nautilus has supported rubber-banding ("drawing selection rectangles") for ages (since it was written? At least as long as I've used it, it's had it). No idea what you're talking about.
- mvent2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12a) GNOME =/= Linux b) GNOME =/= Nautilus c) GNOME's Drag and Drop has always been fine, this is only Nautilus. The summary is wrong.
- djauto23, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Yes it has, even between KDE/Gnome, but appearently not for this particular feature (D&D from file-roller to nautilus).
- mikal, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12I didn't know what it was called, but I sure did miss it. Especially not being able to drag a file from Fileroller annoyed the hell out of me.
- bratterscain, on 10/10/2007, -4/+13Awesome. Imma drag n' drop 'til I drop now.
inb4 Windows fanboys saying, "welcome to 199?". For the record, there is still many Windows situations where dragondrops don't work and even before, many situations in Gnome where dragondrop did work for years. - mvent2, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10No, you're the joke because you didn't bother to read the article properly.
- bigtomrodney, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8It's not a war, it's a choice.
- selkie, on 10/10/2007, -6/+14Linux is now ready for the desktop
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10They are super secret code words
☮☀☂ ☏☁☃☋☄★☇ ☈☉☊☎☌☠ ☡☢☍ ☣☤☥☆☦☨☩ ☪☫☬☭☯ - geminitojanus, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Basically, everyone gave up on Nautilus development ages ago, with only a trickle of bug fixes here and there and no real development. Every single other application could do XDS, but nobody bothered updating Nautilus.
Finally, someone decided to rip the code from Thunar and threw it into Nautilus, now that people are realizing it's quite possibly the most Bitrotten piece of software in continuous use today. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -4/+11So when will gnome have thumbnail previews in file upload dialog box?
- technoredneck, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6You might want to get that hearing problem checked out.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Its actually be a faily major PITA for me, every time I want to extract a file I end up having to browse to the folder location where I want to put it. Much easier to just drag it onto the desktop or into documents etc...
Maybe next we can get the ability to actually edit entries in the menu rather than just relying on the inbuilt entries and organisation, although I guess the Gnome developers think that is to advanced for grandma. - mvent2, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Instead of repeating myself, I'll just give you a virtual bitchslap over the internet.
- MikeWanDo, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8This has nothing to do with KDE. Sound's like you're just a fanboy for something other than Gnome; no different from the people you're calling 'brainwashed'.
- DnasTheGreat, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9Before the trolls start randomly making false claims,
GNOME has had drag-and-drop support for a while already. This is an enhancement to the protocol to allow for fast transfer of files via drag-and-drop, for things such as file archiver -> file manager, or more interestingly, saving by dropping directly to a file manager, as opposed to using the file chooser. I believe the ROX desktop makes heavy use of this idea.
For example, the GIMP in its latest version (release candidate 2 is available), when it displays the unsaved files, you can drag the entries directly into a file manager to save them, and they will disappear from the list -- having tried with Thunar, this is very convenient. I'm glad GNOME is finally going to support it. - Optimaximal, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7The 'dragging onto taskbar' error still pisses me off. Not only is it disruptive until you turn it off, but it seems logical that another way to open files/programs would be to drop them on the taskbar, which represents the 'working space' in the OS.
- tech42er, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5It's obvious from your comments that you're nothing more than a 2-bit troll. Blocked.
- djGentoo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Erm... More like 30 million.
- arjie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I have. This has been a known problem for some 3 years now. Finally fixed. Great thanks to them.
Now they should go for the Save Dialog... - Kugo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4"Steve Jobs once said the X Window System sucked and would be dead in half a year. He was half right." -- Dennis M. Ritchie
- michiamojoe, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5They're two desktops with different designs philosophies *for the user*. So long as they continue to use (open) standards to do common things like clipboard support, DBUS, etc., they are interoperable. I agree that some things will differ like conventions for Open File dialogs and confirm/cancel button layouts, but these are pretty minor -- you can use one application in any other desktop environment.
The one thing I would like to see is a common theming/style standard (maybe even as high a level as HUG detail) so that a theme written in this standard would be useable by GTK/Gnome, KDE/QT, Enlightenment, GNUSTEP, etc. - adt41287, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4not everyone works with packages unless they absolutely have to, but those who dont like command line will find this very helpful
- daverave999, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5It's like he hasn't heard of google or something...
- liorwohl, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4in ubuntu too
- stephdau, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Ah ah. +1 for using WordPress nightly in the example screenshot. :p
- djauto23, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4You are assuming that:
lack of knowledge of computers == a limited mental capacity
Now, is this always true...? - srg13, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Wow... Not only did you not read the article (or at least comprehend it) you didn't read one of the 20 comments clarifying this... GNOME has had drag and drop from the very first version. As has any good window manager/desktop environment. This is just one application supporting a different (more standard) drag and drop protocol...
- Izacus, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Well, friggin finnaly. This has been pissing me off since I started to use Gnome. Now I hope they fixed the damn save window bug too.
- bruce89, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2What do you expect from someone called "L33tMasta", they're probably from Croydon.
- sirdaz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2If compared to windows,
Gnome: The desktop (or shell as in windows) that you see (tasbar, menus, start menu, etc).
File Roller: Opens zip / arachive files as explorer does.
Nautilus: as explorer in windows - bruce89, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Right click on panel > Add to Panel > Main Menu > Add
- 0xception, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4you mean in the main system menu? i think this ability already exists, not sure if it's a 3rd party app but in fedora you can right click the menu and click edit...
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It's there but it doesn't work very well (from what I hear that's no fault of the writer of alacarte, it's a problem inherent in the GNOME menu.) But for me at least it takes a few seconds to actually apply changes, and messes up a lot of stuff.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3> They're two desktops with different designs philosophies *for the user*.
Yes, but the developer makes that choice for the user. The user has no say in the matter, other than to not use the application.
This digg story is about interoperability between two *Gnome* apps. Interoperability between Gnome and KDE apps is much poorer. I don't suppose you can drag a file from File Roller to a KDE app? Didn't think so.
And consistency between standard dialogs is *very* important, and it's made much worse by both Gnome KDE's utter reluctance to standardize on even these most basic of desktop services. The best button layout is the one that all of the other apps use, the one that the user expects. Swapping OK/Cancel positions is just about the most satanic things an application could do, and I still get constantly burned by it.
These aren't license or language issues. The Gnome and KDE camps have never taken interoperability between the two seriously, and the Linux Desktop user suffers as a result. It is very much a war. - arjie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yeah, that usually triggers Alacarte - The Menu Editor. If you're not using the latest version of your distro you may have to install that package.
- tech42er, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Right. That's exactly what he said, but you said it in a much more civil manner. Do we need drag and drop on Linux? Of course not. We have mv and cp, but now that some distros (e.g. Ubuntu) are catering to those who live in the GUI and want drag-and-drop support, it has to be perfected.
For the record, I prefer having my GUI be superfluous, hence why I use Linux. Obviously, some people want a more GUI-centric OS. - Peterix, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Find the image in nautilus -> ctrl-C -> switch to the file upload field -> ctrl-V
No preview needed. - cdmarcus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Gnome brings the window to the front when you drag items onto taskbar entries as well.
- sirdaz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Actually in Windows, if you drag a file on top of an app button on the taskbar, it puts that program into focus so that you can drag into that properly.
When the taskbar is full, you couldn't use it to open new apps which would then be inconsistency. - kiranaryan, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Apart from the file roller drag n drop, we can now leave messages on a locked computer, edit user profiles and there's evolution with libnotify which is quite kool!
- flaare, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Thanks!
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