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- meshman, on 03/10/2008, -15/+98"Full Linux Alternative to Exchange Server"
No calendar sharing support and a web page that sucks only the largest of balls. Their website doesn't tell you a damned thing. Nothing. Try finding it on Google. It's like the product doesn't exist. Is it any good? What features does it have? What doesn't it have that Exchange/Outlook does? Who can tell? - sirhomer, on 03/10/2008, -5/+51Linux alternatives exist for some time already Zimbra is a big one. There is all the fully open source Citadel groupware suite. But Zimbra has already a very large portfolio of customers and in many ways is much more advanced and comprehensive then Exchange is.
- chris9902, on 03/10/2008, -3/+47Another beta product that's set to change the world.
- JasonCox, on 03/10/2008, -18/+46Listen, I love competition but you can have my Exchange Server when you pry it from my cold dead fingers.
- freaktech, on 03/10/2008, -2/+30Actually if you look at the website they do support calendar sharing.
- andrewgreene, on 03/10/2008, -4/+25E-mail, collaboration, VoIP all in one box. If this gains any market share, I can definitely see Microsoft gobbling up some small VoIP company and integrating it into Exchange. True unified messaging FTW.
- carolinaws, on 03/10/2008, -2/+22I use Zimbra for my premium clients and they absolutely love it. One even asked, "what's wrong with your mail server? It hasn't gone down for `maintenance` since we signed up." (They signed up 4 months ago).
- shiitake, on 03/10/2008, -0/+19Isn't Zimbra already available?
- ExSlashdotter, on 03/10/2008, -1/+19says the guy with the screenname "mcse2k3"...
- DoctorWhohaa, on 03/10/2008, -0/+16Zimbra also supports Outlook via a plugin, which is a big bonus to anyone rolling out an exchange replacement. Plus you can get Blackberry software for it as well to operate Zimbra as a BES alternative. I've never tested it, so I'd be interested to see how well it works, but it looks promising.
- oldhick, on 03/10/2008, -0/+16Microsoft as integrated VoIP using Communications Server 2007 with Exchange 2007. There are plenty of third party products that interact with previous versions of Exchange. Further, while I think this is a fantastic product for the small office and am thrilled someone had the vision and time to develop this, ultimately the "one box" certainly will not be important to larger companies and most likely will be a drawback as scalability becomes an issue. But the small office market is fairly large and I'm impressed.
- mithrasinvictus, on 03/10/2008, -3/+18Looking into something does not mean "roll it out".
- freetron, on 03/10/2008, -1/+15Threaten your Exchange Sysadmin with a firing or hire someone who can properly setup Exchange. To pull the "my best friend is a black person" type of analogy, I run Solaris 10 on my personal laptops and desktops, the wife prefers slackware and FreeBSD, but I have seen nothing as user friendly or robust as exchange 2007 for a business communication suite. A sad fact, yes, and also my personal opinion.
- electromage, on 03/10/2008, -10/+24I'll be looking in to this for my company.
- alphex, on 03/10/2008, -1/+14lol, marketing digg spam, I love it.
one word: zimbra.
its the only alternative to exchange that I've seen come close to doing what exchange can do.
exchange is awesome, if you're 100% windows... but for those who aren't. I *HIGHLY* suggest checking out zimbra.
Only problem is that they're owned by Yahoo... *sigh*
Additionally, the Unisom website doens't tell me anything, and is horribly structured to find anything really useful, or descriptive about how the product works.
I'm curious, but... not really compelled to dive deeper just from what I've seen in a few moments of browsing. - MoneyShot, on 03/10/2008, -2/+14Ha! It's not even open-source. They only provide RedHat compatible binaries. All the "open source" downloads on their website are to MySQL, FreeRADIUS, SER, and about a dozen other FOSS components that they integrate into their package. *Their* code itself isn't free.
- fkr3, on 03/10/2008, -1/+13Wow.... imagine the confusion if you guys got married!
- MoneyShot, on 03/10/2008, -4/+15Good luck getting users to use anything other than Outlook. It's what *everyone* knows. And to be honest, it's not a bad email client. Zimbra did it right by integrating with Outlook (or without, if you'd like to use another client)
- Cerebral, on 03/10/2008, -0/+11Why the hell can't PC World put this link in their article?
- Nightfall, on 03/10/2008, -5/+16As usual, the comments when it comes to a "Linux Alternative" are filled with FUD, inaccuracy, and fanboys. Lets cut through it shall we?
Exchange admins know how to setup a Exchange server the right way. I have set up a lot of exchange servers in my time, and not one of them has had a problem with a patch, update, or other issue where Exchange just stops working. In short, if your exchange server is dying and its not hardware related, time for you to get a admin in there who knows the software to make it right. If you have an exchange admin, its time to kick that guy to the curb and get a real one.
Secondly, anyone saying they would run their business with this software needs to get a grip. I wouldn't run my business on software like this, not because it won't work, but because I want to be able to hire someone who can support it and keep it running. What people don't realize is that the cost of supporting hardware/software can be just as expensive as the software itself. Its going to be much easier and cheaper to pay for the licensing and get an actual admin who knows Exchange than it will be to find an admin for this alternative.
These alternatives have been out for a while and just as wbeavis has said, the ones with the same features as Exchange like Notes and Groupwise cost just as much as Exchange. I have worked with Notes and Groupwise in the past, and they are solid products. However, Exchange is much easier to support and implement right now, especially from a personel standpoint.
If you are a Linux fanboy saying this will kill MS, you are sadly mistaken. Exchange has been around for this long for a reason. Its a solid product. Doesn't matter if you like Exchange or not. Doesn't matter if you like Microsoft or not. Saying this beats the crap out of MS is really not a smart thing to say unless you are a brainwashed fanboy. This coming from someone who likes Linux and runs it at home. - usingpond, on 03/10/2008, -0/+10Maybe some people care? Obviously they do if this is front page.
- Chakat, on 03/10/2008, -1/+10Looking into doesn't mean installing. One can look at cars, up to and including test driving them, without intending to purchase one at that moment.
- Nicksname1, on 03/10/2008, -0/+9FTA: "Unison is aimed at 20- to 300-seat organizations, but the US-based company plans to add server clustering in the future."
That's pretty weak. Headline should read "Full Linux Alternative to Exchange Server (for small companies)" - RIMberry, on 03/10/2008, -1/+10It supports up to 300 users max, that's not even Exchange's target market...
- RIMberry, on 03/10/2008, -1/+10Then you sir have a bad Exchange admin.
- webcrumb, on 03/10/2008, -0/+9Linux news in the Linux section? Who'da thunk it?
- madeingermany, on 03/10/2008, -0/+8Well, I'm for anything that produces a more diverse eco-system ;)
But am I seeing that right, that there isn't even a linux client? - sublynx, on 03/10/2008, -1/+9http://www.unison.com/download/download.php
top right on the website - joncarr, on 03/10/2008, -0/+8"Full Linux Alternative?" Where's the support for open protocols like LDAP & CalDAV? Where are the non-Windoze clients?
- rrife, on 03/10/2008, -7/+14andrewgreene - Exchange 2k7 already supports all of those features and then some.
- javaroast, on 03/10/2008, -0/+7You do know that he is correct don't you? Taken from Unison's site, "In addition to its proprietary code, Unison uses open source software and shares all modifications of that code with the community, in line with the software’s licensing agreements:"
- Rikkochet, on 03/10/2008, -2/+9You do know that open source doesn't mean free, right? It only means people who get a license for the product (free or purchased) are granted access to the source code.
- Nex6, on 03/10/2008, -2/+8we have a huge exchange farm and they never crash..... maybe you should look at how they are setup, whats cuasing the crashes etc...
- madeingermany, on 03/10/2008, -0/+6do I look like I need one?
- PirateFSM, on 03/10/2008, -0/+6Dude, seriously?
- ksool, on 03/10/2008, -0/+6Call me jaded but this brings to mind press releases from PostPath, Scalix, ... all of which came out claiming to be the next "Exchange killer" and all of which really flopped (or didn't have all Exchange functionality or weren't really free). Don't get me wrong, I wish them the best and I'll give them a shot, but a press release about a Linux exchange server is about as meaningful as ... nothing
That said, I've found Kolab to be the best replacement so far. Requires KDE clients but runs pretty well. - Firehed, on 03/10/2008, -11/+17You can keep it. I don't think I've ever had a good experience with Exchange. Our server has been unavailable almost a dozen times today alone, and is always stupidly slow - even compared to my iPhone hitting my IMAP server over EDGE with two bars.
- inactive, on 03/10/2008, -1/+7Um there have been oodles of FULL ALTERNATIVES just none compatible with messages and appointment requests sent by other companies using outlook.
Many VOIP products already have integrated modules for exchange,,, just companies too cheap to opt. for them. But as prices go down more and more companies are going for that option.
Not sure how this is anything new. - fkr3, on 03/10/2008, -4/+10It would surprise you if someone on digg wasn't an IT guy? It surprises me when someone here has finished highschool.....
- theaceoffire, on 03/10/2008, -0/+6Worked for Gmail.
- jaderobbins, on 03/10/2008, -0/+6did anyone else notice that there isn't a linux client. . . .
- snotrokit, on 03/10/2008, -2/+8it's all yours. I have exorcised the Exchange demons from my life and have never been happier.
- wbeavis, on 03/10/2008, -0/+6Linux alternatives to Exchange have existed for MANY years. Some better than others. Novell's Groupwise, I believe runs on Linux for a while now. I've personally used a product from a company called Bynari, InsightServer and InsightConnector (Insight, Outlook get it?). Bynari's price is good. They basically wrap a bunch of Open Source products together and build an Outlook plugin to communicate. I have not used Bynari's products in over a year, it is a decent solution. However, it tended to be a touch quirky so I would caution linuxphobes against it. While researching I found tons of others in various states. Anyone wanting some Exchange features but without MS, there are solutions but expect them to be cobbled together. The only ones I know would be on par with Exchange tend to cost as much as Exchange, those are the like of Groupwise and Notes.
- Nex6, on 03/10/2008, -2/+8the sad fact is, Exchange is pretty damn goood. thats not to say its prefect, cuz its not. and an experenced exchange admin knows what exchange does well and does not do well, smtp for example exchanges sucks at, so fork off all smtp to qmail or sendmail. not exhchange will only do what it does best. best tool guys....
- Nightfall, on 03/10/2008, -2/+7I have to agree with meshman and kent1146. I am a fan of Linux, but there is no way in hell I would move my business over to this platform without a great support model. This is, in essence, a version 1 of a product of its kind. I may be interested when this alternative reaches version 4 or version 5. By then, there will be many businesses on this platform, the support forums and community would be well established, there would be professionals who have installed and worked with it on a daily basis. I don't see any option for support for this product right now. Who am I going to call if I have problems?
Sometimes, the best things in life aren't free. - drastik21, on 03/10/2008, -0/+5Having a cert doesn't mean *****, it just means you can pass a test. I know an Asian guy who has 2 certs who didn't know how to add a printer.
- RIMberry, on 03/10/2008, -1/+6Push to iPhone support? That's top on my list for the enterprise!
- prammy, on 03/10/2008, -0/+5@freetron
Amen to that. No matter what one might feel about Microsoft, Exchange has become an excellent product. On the Linux messaging field, I like Zimbra (ZCS 5 is pretty damn good too). - papastout, on 03/10/2008, -0/+5"Unison is aimed at 20- to 300-seat organizations, but the US-based company plans to add server clustering in the future to support more."
So, what... you have to cluster your serves to get more than 300 users??
BAH! - inactive, on 03/10/2008, -0/+5There has been a full alternative to Exchange for a long time. Communigate (stalker dot com) is not free, but a hell of a lot cheaper than M$. It supports every known communication protocol, is scalable up to an number of users and run native on every operating system used today. I have used it both personally and for businesses for several years. It runs great on Linux, but also runs on all other OS's. They also have a community license model for people not using it as a business (free). I would never use anything other than CGate as a mail server based on my experiences with it. Rock solid... only had one security vulnerability about 7 years ago and has been secure ever since.
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