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- schestowitz, on 10/11/2007, -5/+21Mandriva does not need to pay Linus 'tax' to Microsoft. Instead, taxpayers' money goes to Mandriva in France/Brasil, instead of to Microsoft. That's economical independence.
- Skooma714, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15Mandriva, I choose you!
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -8/+22Vive la France!
- qwerty121, on 10/11/2007, -2/+14NT Server? I think it's time to upgrade to anything newer they can find.
- adolfojp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Mandrake was the first Linux distro that I found usable. I am glad to see that it is still live and well today. :-)
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -5/+12they own, that's why.
ps. shut up franco-phobes. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Five years ago I used what is now Mandriva on a Compaq P1 laptop and loved it. I used it quite a lot for digital photo editing. I still have the laptop and recently got it out to power it on. At the time, Mandrake STOMPED on a P1 - great! I think my next Linux foray after Ubuntu will be to try the newest Mandriva. I've had at least five versions of it and when I was on dial-up I used it for at least a year as my main computer. Hey - if the French have their agriculture and trains together, I'M INTERESTED in their distribution of the mighty L. Viva La France !
Hey - at one time I actually owned STOCK in Mandriva. The value just sat like a rock for a year - just like Linux performance, consistent. - zovres, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5what's that Linus tax to Micosoft yo're talking about?
- JQP123, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6I suppose it's only fair. Lots of Americans apply similar logic to French wine and cheese.
- strictnein, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4My question is: Why does the French Ministry of Agriculture and Fisheries have 400 servers? What are they doing with all that hardware?
- LadySophia, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3France is a beauitiful country. So, are the French women. The food is great. The health care is great (can't miss Sicko reference lol), More importantly, France Gov. picked ODF! Vive La France!
- JQP123, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4And if you need a car, I'll bet you apply the same antiquated logic to exclude Toyota in favor of Peugeot without even considering other factors.
- LadySophia, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Why unstable? Mandriva 2K7 is pretty stable after install. It's a matter of how you configure it and how well the apps and drivers are install that primarily define the stability. There are other factors, Still, it's unwise to say that Mandriva is unstable.
- hove, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3What?
- 3adkied, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Antiquated logic? This is still very common with taxpayer dollars (not necessarily the economy as a whole). This is why we still build our own military equipment, instead of outsourcing it overseas. That's why we fund scientific research in the US. How often do you see a Toyota used as a government car in the US as opposed to an American car? From police cars to the presidential motorcade, we try to keep tax money going to domestic goods.
- gclef, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Nice FUD. A few facts:
The Munich project started in 2003, so it's more like 4 years since it started, not 7.
According to this: http://www.cio.com.au/index.php/id;1091306667 the CIO says they're on track, and have replaced most applications with Web apps, to make the transition easier.
Also, according to that link, they were (as of a year ago) testing with 100 users for full desktop replacement.
Migrations of that size don't happen overnight. - tsbardella, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4They are French It is about fish and has linux in it. what a story.
- reinouts, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3They've chosen Mandriva Corporate Server 4 -- not quite the consumer-targeted distro you're used to. It's definitely well-tested and stable!
- eightyd, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4First off, you have no idea what you are talking about. Peugeot and Renault were both offered in the US (the former from 58 to 91, the latter from the 50's into the 70's, with importing ending in the 80's). The problem was, the cars were terrible. Hastily, shoddily built, and they were bad, bad cars. So people didn't buy them. This has nothing to do with your "'free market' USA" bashing, or giant SUV's. People didn't want to buy terrible french cars, so they didn't, and the french manufacturers. Peugeot is considering coming back - http://www.autoblog.com/2007/07/04/enter-the-rumormill-peugeot-sedans-to-come-to-the-us/ . So get off your US-bashing high horse.
Secondly, this is about linux, why the hell are you talking about SUV's? - db113456, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I run Mandriva Linux release 2006.0 (Official) for i586 on my main desktop, and it is stable. I rarely reboot it , maybe only for kernel updates and power failures. I also run a few servers with Mandriva, and they perform great, stable and fast. And looking at the availability of packages, it is really a great, large distro.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -10/+12Thank god for that. Who needs American trash when we have our own home grown open source Linux.
- strictnein, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2@snooly: "The problem is in the "free market" USA you can no longer buy a new Peugot or Renault. "
I think you really have a total misunderstanding what "free market" means. It doesn't mean that every single product in the world will be readily available to you.
And actually, if you really wanted a new Peugot or Renault, you could buy one, it would just be more expensive. And you know what would happen if a whole bunch of people started importing French vehicles? They'd start selling them here. That's the "free market" at work. - daftman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1And what do MS fanboy like you digg?
+ Microsoft Announces 3-Year 360 Warrenty Extension
+ Xbox 360 warranty extended to three years
+ US Navy stole my Internet
Enough said - artoisval, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I hope they will not fall from M$ lobbying like in the Us !
- mikedoth, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I believe he's talking about paying MS for their software, and or something to do with the patent agreement with MS.
- HarryBauzonia, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2It's unstable because they use programs and applications that haven't been fully tested. I've had numerous lock-ups and crashes with Mandriva that I have not had with distros like Fedora, Suse, etc.
I'm not saying Mandriva is *****....I think it's the most user-friendly distro out there and they include lots of very useful programs with it that the others are scared to touch. I use it at home on my secondary computer, but I leave the computer I use for my work (web development) running Fedora. Even so, it's still more stable than Windows though. - gclef, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11998? Bull. Show me a link to prove it. These links say it's 2003:
http://ec.europa.eu/idabc/en/document/6187/360
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050907-5284.html
You're wrong.
Your selective quote (by an anonymous source) from that article is also directly contradicted by the CIO of the project, who I quoted.
As for more recent, this one from February of this year says they've started, and are moving along.
http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1200548851 - daftman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1One unimportant anonymous guy on the internet is commenting on how unimportant a country's ministry is.
- HarryBauzonia, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Great that they chose Linux. Sad that they chose such an unstable distro.
I like the distro, but it is bleeding-edge stuff, and they're up-front about saying so. - afx1, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1"Why does the French Ministry of Agriculture and Fisheries have 400 servers? What are they doing with all that hardware?"
That's what I'd like to know - eightyd, on 10/11/2007, -8/+8And why is this on the front page? In TWO YEARS a FRENCH department is switching to linux from WINDOWS NT?! Wow, thank god we have linux fanboys digging the most irrelevant ***** ever to the front page.
- GiggleStick, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1I think you mean "au naturale"
- reinouts, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1They've chosen Mandriva Corporate Server 4 -- not quite the consumer-targeted distro you're used to. It's definitely well-tested and stable!
- LadySophia, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0I've tried Mandriva 2007 Free and extended it with other apps. It's stable, works great on P3 since it's i686, provides the nifty 3D effects. Buy the power packs and you unleash the best features (even if some of them are proprietary).
Take Ubuntu - compiz is nicel. Now, compare compiz with Metisse on Mandriva. Metisse offers useful feaures unlike compiz useless wooble. Mandriva is good. Go for it. - masskurec, on 03/03/2009, -0/+0this minister is smart
http://xptweak.net - crossers, on 07/23/2008, -0/+0good story, but not for me))
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http://www.chasr.org/ - schestowitz, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Oh, that was a typo. Should be 'Linux tax'.
- adriaann1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Hopefully it is so successful that it sets an example for others to follow.
- mikedoth, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Do you talk to the US government with that tongue?
- LadySophia, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0Mandriva had been in financial trouble since long. It's currently facing lots of competition. This is very good news. Mandriva is an excellent distro. It's gives you the same level of innovation as opensuse gives out. I guess the French Ministry going for a French distro is good - the support is right @ home unlike going for Canonical's Ubuntu for e.g. Mandriva was a good choice. OpenSource is promoted. Yay!
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0Fact. They announced the switch in late 98'. Fact. The article you reference is a year old. Please find me something current that says differently than your article which quotes "However, two weeks ago a senior government IT official told the Senate that the migration had ground to a halt, citing an inside source"
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1I gotta say it. How's that Munich migration going? The migration will take place within two years? How about we wait three years and submit a story that reads "REPLACED" Windows NT (NT, WTF!) a year ago and all is peachy...? btw it's been 7 years and Munich still hasn't migrated away from MS.
- vonskippy, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3This project has all the potential to become another infamous Maginot Line.
Lets double check shall we:
Involves the French - Check
Using Mandriva (the gayest named distro on Earth) - Check
Replacing NT - check and double check
Has a time frame of TWO FREAKING Years - check
Applied to a dept that only people who sleep with their nephews gets assigned to - check check check
The chances of this actually happening - Zero to None, in two years Microsoft will steamroll the whole project and whoever makes the big picture decisions will cave (or should we say surrender) to the pressure. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2Exactly! See my comment above. Fanboys did the same thing with the Munich migration which was supposed to be "ground breaking" for Linux. 7 years and Munich still hasn't migrated away from MS, and you never hear a peep from the fanboys about it now. I swear Munich was hyped as much as the iPhone. Notice I am not saying that Linux is a "bad" alternative to MS, especially on the server side of things, but hell, why is this news at all?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -7/+4I'd love to drive a new brightly colored tiny Renault. The problem is in the "free market" USA you can no longer buy a new Peugot or Renault. Some French guy is producing a car that uses a piston engine that runs on compressed air. It is going to be sold / adopted by the biggest car maker in India. Literally last night, here in the USA, I saw a pickup truck that was 4x the size of a regular vehicle. It sat in the air like a piece of mining machinery. Where I live someone hit a wheelchair person at an intersection because the SUV was so big they could not see the wheelchair occupant. I'll tell you, some days I want to jump off a bridge. Living in the USA is utterly depressing. We allow the roads to occupied by these mega-vehicles where you can not drive an efficient vehicle. In today's news is a local story of a moped driver getting his head hit by the mirror of a truck changing lanes and it looks like a critical injury. GW Bush is the guy who gave tax incentives for buying SUV. Completely and fantastically unethical. More of his sociopath power orgy. 564 more days unless he performs marshall law. Cold sweat.
- digitalunit, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1Big deal. =/
- ZephyrNinety, on 10/11/2007, -11/+6If only they would change over from natural to deodorant...
- schoate09, on 10/11/2007, -11/+6Wow, one unimportant department switches to linux, and it's the front page story of digg, sad. How many linux switch to Windows too?
- billmccartney, on 10/11/2007, -8/+3So some part of the French government chooses a French version of Linux over Windows... Nothing to see here move along
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