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- Mateo2, on 10/12/2009, -5/+80iPhone runs on an open source operating system..... ? Buried for laugh-out-loud inaccuracy.
- ayeroxor, on 10/12/2009, -0/+17So in other words, it's CHDK ( http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK ) except it's *not* several years old?
- theOster, on 10/12/2009, -0/+13"It works a bit like an iPhone, in that it gives the user an inflated sense of superiority"
- The2DQuartet, on 10/12/2009, -1/+12I agree. It would read better as:
"it runs on an open source operating system and works a bit like an iPhone, allowing photographers to change the electronic guts of the camera by downloading applications" - fireashes, on 10/12/2009, -3/+12Dugg for NPR and F/OSS
- diggbigwig, on 10/12/2009, -1/+10"works a bit like an iPhone" wut? Wouldn't it be more accurate to say it works like an Android?
- The2DQuartet, on 10/12/2009, -0/+9*Edit*
Where did the quote even come from? Nowhere in the article are the words "iPhone" and "open source" mentioned in the same sentence! - robdiggity, on 10/12/2009, -1/+9That leaves Bicep's poor reading comprehension (incompetence), or willful intent to fellate the Digg demo (intentional misinformation). Which is it bro?
- tablatronix, on 10/12/2009, -0/+6And you can change electronic guts using software ! Must be some newfangled nano assembler tech.
- dtele, on 10/12/2009, -2/+7Looks like a camera who's computer does what I usually do in post processing.
- Bicep, on 10/12/2009, -0/+4I read the article and was glad to see the Frankencamera mentioned again and so that's why I submitted the story. A similar story already headlined a few weeks ago via this link: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Frankencamera_is_open_s ...
The article explains how Professor McElroy believes the best camera operating system and features can come from an open source model and so that's why the camera uses Linux. I liked the article because the Professor points out how cameras have not evolved as much as they should have already, and that he hopes that this can change with the methods used for the frankencamera. "Our goal is not to make a product. Our goal is to try and push traditional camera makers to incorporate more of these flexible ways of producing images in their cameras."
As for the iphone being open source.. that's a big stretch... I think the quotation under the title came automatically with the digg submit, because it doesn't show in the article. My bad for not editing it. I disagree with that part, but they may have originally said that because the iphone OS is based on OSX, which according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osx , contains the open source base system named Darwin. "Mac OS X's core is a POSIX compliant operating system (OS) built on top of the XNU kernel, with standard Unix facilities available from the command line interface. Apple released this set of software as a free and open source operating system named Darwin."
Again, calling the iphone open source just because it's based on Darwing is not a fair assesment of Open Source at all, at least not compared to the Universal Operating System and father of all F/OSS operating systems, which is GNU/Linux. As for pointing out how the camera OS can be modularized like the iphone, that makes sense, but I agree with diggbigwig that they should have used Android as the model instead of the iphone. Perhaps they thought if it said iphone in there, people would be more apt to read about it ... heh..
The article is a good article other than that though, and I think the Frankencamera deserves as much attention as possible.. IMHO
Can I have my head back now? - javacodeguy, on 10/12/2009, -0/+4I don't see what's so exciting about this? It just sounds like he created his own camera OS.
- Phenom21, on 10/12/2009, -0/+3by the way the iPhone is NOT open source....it's the main reason the Android will win this battle in the coming years, because the Android is, indeed, open source, while Apple continues to think it sound business move to ONLY allow developers to develop on one platform for a locked up platform. Times have change Jobs.
- jezsik, on 10/12/2009, -0/+3Some of us used to build our own computers. Doing so meant you get the processor you want, the video card you want, the hard drive you want, etc. This, my friend, is what's exciting about this camera's potential. Not only is it modular, you get an operating system in which you can run the applications you want AND you can make your own applications.
- lukak, on 10/12/2009, -1/+4The "so it's a camera with photoshop" comments couldn't be more wrong. A regular digital camera has about 6-8 stops (generous) of dynamic range in which colours and tones can be captured, anything else is too dark or too bright to be distinguishable from white or black.
Essentially, this camera will allow HDR (high dynamic range, or more than the standard 6-8 stops) images to be captured from a single frame (from the photographer's point of view) rather than taking multiple images. That's it.
Read up on photography before posting guys. - theOster, on 10/12/2009, -0/+3ya got it!
- Bicep, on 10/11/2009, -3/+5http://digg.com/linux_unix/Frankencamera_is_open_s ...
- diggbigwig, on 10/12/2009, -1/+3Great idea. You could stack several 'apps' or operations (ops) on top of each other and the possibilities are endless.
- Jerky1312, on 10/12/2009, -0/+2Video of the camera's innards...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psi_njPBryE - doctechnical, on 10/12/2009, -2/+3So this is a camera with Photoshop built right in. Sounds cool! I want to download an app that automatically adds Cheeky Squirrel to every pic.
- Nicklogan, on 10/12/2009, -0/+1I wonder how it will handle video? since most current dSLR's do HD video.
- cyberwired, on 10/12/2009, -1/+2I was just about to say that, scripts on CHDK will do all that, but why would Canon etc allow it factory unless they can charge for the extra features
- The2DQuartet, on 10/13/2009, -0/+1No, that caption just says, "It allows programs to be downloaded, much like the iPhone does". No mention of open source or Linux
- gkiltz, on 10/12/2009, -1/+2NPR has missed the boat on this one. Most of these changes either have already occurred, or can be expected shortly. This only accelerates change that was already inevitable.
Now we will see it in 18 months, instead of 3-4 years. - Bicep, on 10/12/2009, -0/+1Please nevermind the story description above - the comment there about the iphone being open source - it's not even in the news story and is not all the way accurate to say the least. Even if the iphone is based on Darwin, the open source baseline component of Mac OSX, the iphone is definately not Open Source and neither is the app store an all the way "open" place. The reference to the iphone is meant to be a statement towards allowing anyone to easily create applications for the platform - they would have done a lot better to use Android as the example though, since it is truly open source. Please click the link for the story and read what's there - it's a good article with some valid points about how making a camera platform that's open source can further excel photography as a whole. Cheers.
- amelzer, on 10/12/2009, -0/+1on the one hand this is neat, on the other the whole point of photography is the play of light and dark. take a damn photography class don't spend a wad on some recycled camera.
- misstingting, on 10/12/2009, -0/+1buried, 'cause this is old technology. You can do something very similar with a non-franken digital camera if you just read the relevant paper on this technique and spend some time with matlab. this interview also mixes up some very different issues in the area of computational photography. it also doesn't mention the limitations of taking more than one photo to generate a hybrid photo, which is that you're no longer capturing one moment in time.
- AmazingSteve, on 10/12/2009, -0/+1Or you could actually LEARN something about photography and avoid these problems. All the buttons and dials on your shiny new DSLR aren't there just to make you look all professional and *****.
- MrSpontaneous, on 10/12/2009, -3/+3Unix is not open source. Try again.
- fryguy1013, on 10/12/2009, -1/+1@The2DQuartet: It's in the photo caption on the left
- Charun, on 10/12/2009, -2/+1Did anyone else read Frankencamera and think of this?
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/al_franken.gif - beaudanker, on 10/12/2009, -4/+1It's big. It's ugly. And it's made from recycled parts, It's called the "Al Frankencamera"
- Aeror, on 10/12/2009, -7/+1Actually. The darwin project (from which Mac OS and iphone OS is build) is open source
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_%28operating_s ... - amitait, on 10/12/2009, -9/+1Unix >> NeXTStep >> Mac OS >> Iphone OS
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