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- dburanen, on 07/02/2008, -2/+73Test 1: Try to watch a fullscreen video with compiz.
Verdict: It's not broken anymore! - cenarta, on 07/03/2008, -3/+59Still no 64 bit release! aaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhh!
(the 32 bit plugin wrapper workaround is a major cause of instability for me) - TheWindBlows, on 07/03/2008, -0/+31We need to thank adobe for finally addressing this issue if we would like them to continue supporting linux platforms and any others we would like on issuess such as this and possibly improving the linux flash player as good or even better than the one for windows.
- inactive, on 07/02/2008, -2/+33The previous release was causing FF3 to crash about once every 2 hours. Hopefully it's more stable.
- Fritzel, on 07/03/2008, -0/+29Stop dragging it around the screen while watching it ^^
- inactive, on 07/03/2008, -1/+28Flash for Linux has been a large contributor to the wider adoption of Linux desktops.
I also think that more proprietary companies like Adobe should recognize a that Linux is platform it's worth their time to support. Sure most Linux users prefer open source, but Flash is great example of how many users don't mind proprietary code running on their systems. They can make an educated choice as to what they want, proprietary or not, based on their own needs/wants.
However, I still think it's a shame the web is so hung up on a proprietary format, regardless of platform. It's not good for anyone, never mind open source adherents. In fact the only entity it's good for is Adobe.
One would have hoped Google could/would have lead the way by converting Youtube's delivery system to something new that's free and open.
Anyways, there's a lesson in there somewhere.
And,
Hi-five to the Gnash people. - Edogz, on 07/03/2008, -0/+15Wow, nice ;). I couldn't see a lot of website's menus due to lack of transparency, or flash elements would hide under advertisements or page elements and I'd have to disable css to see anything.
I'll give this a try... Thanks Adobe for considering Linux users! - digiteyes, on 07/03/2008, -0/+14While Flash on Linux may not be perfect and still no 64 bit I must say kudos to Adobe for making the attempt to make flash more cross platform compatible. Its not very often you see companies with proprietary formats going out of their way to make their products work on *nix platforms.
- inactive, on 07/03/2008, -5/+18I wonder what piece of crap is the software of the flash player if in - 6 (six) - years they couldn't port it to 64 bit.
i'm happy for these little upgrades but they are hogging my machine because of the nspluginwrapper - phatboye, on 07/03/2008, -1/+13* Yawn* until I see 64-bit support any flash new is meh.
- jjpertusch, on 07/03/2008, -1/+10oh ***** yes. i now the internet isn't flash, but when you're living with a constantly crashing browser you realize how widespread it is.
- CrackyJSquirrel, on 07/03/2008, -2/+10?? Failed trolling attempt ??
- mcmlxxii, on 07/03/2008, -3/+11But it's still as jerky as hell.
- terrorpin, on 07/03/2008, -0/+8Flash has never broken anything on my Ubuntu machines, but the transparency on the clock on the BBC website works properly now.
- falafelkiosken, on 07/03/2008, -4/+12everyone is happy except rms
- 4DFX, on 07/03/2008, -0/+6Does this version work with nspluginwrapper yet?
- Fergy, on 07/03/2008, -1/+7Ubuntu choose to use Pulse Audio so any problems with it are Ubuntu's fault.
- mickstephenson, on 07/03/2008, -0/+5I blocked that stupid clock with adblock as soon as they added it, I have one on my desktop and so does everyone else thank you very much Mr Beeb.
- TheWindBlows, on 07/03/2008, -0/+5it sort of is when you minimize the video after full screening you have to scroll the page for the video to continue.
Beside such this new flash player finally has some needed fixes. - jasonlfunk, on 07/03/2008, -0/+5Fullscreen hulu is still really choppy.
- mindracer, on 07/03/2008, -0/+564 bit please!
- PhailQuail, on 07/03/2008, -0/+5I'm fairly certain the problem existed before pulseaudio was added, but It might not of been as bad.
- podgey22, on 07/03/2008, -0/+5Yes. They've fixed some issues but the wmode thing (the "point" of this release) is a crashtastrophe. You can't use many sites at all because of new bugs now.
- podgey22, on 07/03/2008, -2/+6Install it then go to http://www.bbc.co.uk
Stability rules and this crashes 100% of the time on there because of wmode transparency on their clock there. Not cool. - aladrin, on 07/03/2008, -1/+5I've been pretty pleased with version 9, especially compared to past versions. I'm glad to see they have continued to keep Linux in the works for their new versions as well. I'm especially happy to hear about the dropdown menus thing being fixed.
I'm gonna pass on the pre-release versions, but I'm very much looking forward to v10 being released. - darkray77, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4nice one ... this seems to work .... and seriously, where's the open source alternative to flash here people?! ... : ) It's always seemed so incredible to me how dependent the web is on a technology that is so closed off.
- podgey22, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4Fullscreen performance is better - but it's still really wobbly here @1920*1200
- ElbertF, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4Test 2: 25 YouTube movies on a single pages. No crash!
What the hell happened, did Adobe see the light? - roystgnr, on 07/03/2008, -1/+5It's still broken, just not as much.
Start a Hulu video, hit the "fullscreen" button. At 1920x1080, even my Q6600+Geforce8800 still has somewhat choppy playback and horizontal "tearing" lines.
Is there something wrong with my system or with flash playback in general? No:
Start a Hulu video, hit the "pop out" button, hit F11 to make the popped out Firefox window go fullscreen. 1920x1080 is now smooth as butter.
The Flash people know this is still a bug (I only tried the popout/F11 trick after someone else described exactly the same behavior on an Adobe bug tracking entry), and it's still an annoying bug (Hulu has that "pop out" button, but many video sites only offer embedded and fullscreen options), so here's hoping they finally fix it soon. - PhailQuail, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4Nah, its not the wrapper, its just insanely bugged, crashes every 3 youtube videos on my 32-bit laptop.
- Avian00, on 07/03/2008, -5/+9What a grim title... "Something on Linux no longer breaks things!"
But in all seriousness, great news! - FutureGuy, on 07/03/2008, -1/+5Flash causes browsers to crash even on Windows, its a piece of junk. hopefully new found competition from MS would inspire them to fix it.
- kdesu, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3Yeah, it really sucks when it crashes.
Another thing you could try is installing the 32 bit version of your browser, and then the 32 bit plug-ins normally. That way, you get flash and java working. - PhailQuail, on 07/03/2008, -2/+5Does it still crash Firefox?
- TheWindBlows, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3Arrogance and pride can be the fall of many great things. Just because you think company should thank themselves for accomplishing something like this do you think a company will and even if they do I am sure everyone would agree it's much more to be thanked by someone else than to be thank yourself. Yes, linux is serious platform with a growing userbase on it, but there are things that need to be adapted into linux for it to gain momentum a strong flash player is one of those because of how much flash is used across the web.
Now, tell me would you like to spend your time doing for someone who is being arrogant and completely inconsiderate of everything you do consistantly demanding more and not thanking you at all for your efforts? Most people would agree that they would prefer someone is much more considerate.
Even if linux is a strong platform arrogance, ignorance to improvements, pride (elitism), and even incosideration can hold it back and possibly destroy it. Realise that Linux is a great and growing platform and i will admit it can be slapped down and crumble not by company, even one like microsoft, but by its own user and programmer network. Remember that damage and corruption from the inside is always more dangerous and harder to recover from than what can be done externally. - podgey22, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3Or click on the page.
- someguy92, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3wtf?
- dood, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3What the ***** does ******* mean?
- jamesdew, on 07/03/2008, -1/+4nooo how will I continue with such a usability crippling bug
- bleaked, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3I don't get it.. Looks like a standard use of flash to me.
- rompolompo, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3Go to wimbledon.org and see the real meaning of flash....
- jamie191817, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3Would anyone be kind enough to tell me how to install this on ubuntu? because watching youtube my cpu is at 100% and i get choppy playback on my 1.6Ghz centrino pentium M. I'm sure i'm not the only one. thanks.
- thejart, on 07/03/2008, -1/+4m$ creating competition?!? well, i'll be damned, you're right.
- danjwray, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3Not that Flash on Linux sucks? Interesting perceptions you have there.
- vertexoflife, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3holy *****!
- ralphthemagi, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2Flash is necessary on today's web because otherwise you have to spend countless hours trying to ensure cross-browser compatibility. For some things, it's worth it. For other things, such as embedable content, it isn't. Flash is reasonably consistent between platforms, and between browsers. It's the "Java" of the web world, if you will.
While it's possible to do pretty much all the kinds of effects you can do with Flash, with a combination of XHTML, CSS, & JavaScript, it's not really possible to do that with embedable content. Can you imagine the nightmare of creating something with the complexities of Flash, and then making sure it renders consistently on Mac, Windows, Linux... IE, Safari, Firefox, & Opera? Not to mention smaller browers like Flock, Camino, and Konqueror? Sure, it's possible, but it's a nightmare. When you are developing for your own site, it's a bit different because there are a known set of rules. When you are deveopling for another site, you have to deal with different JavaScript frameworks, different DOCTYPES, different CSS styles and overrides, etc.. It's a nightmare. And while some things can be solved with XMLHttpRequest and/or iFrames, it's a lot easier to say, "Let's just do it in Flash. That we we don't have to worry about this crap, and even people on MySpace can embed it." - bleaked, on 07/03/2008, -1/+3Though I am thankful, I still don't believe we need to thank them for supporting the Linux platform. Do you feel that Mac users should be thanking adobe for support of OSX? Probably not. This is because it is a serious platform, with a real market associated with it. The Linux platform is no different. There are plenty of potential consumers using Linux every day and for adobe to just ignore this market will only hurt themselves.
So, if anything, adobe and every other business which uses flash to sell and promote their products and services should be thanking themselves for finally reaching this market. - mvent2, on 07/04/2008, -0/+2Actually Linux has had swfdec which is open source and more stable.
- vertexoflife, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2Works fine for me...
- inactive, on 07/04/2008, -0/+2Yes, there is. It's in the options. Check "Hardware Acceleration" to get fullspeed - It truly works, I watched "The Real Zone" at 1280x1024 in HQ and beat my brothers WinVista machine in smoothness.
I haven't upgraded to this latest beta but i have the one before it. It's awesome compared to previous versions. I hope this one lives up to the hype also. -
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